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I can see that. It would be small so not a significant bandwidth hog.
However have we ever seen a MHEG app switch to another mux? Assuming we haven't, is it possible? Will they be able to do it to switch to 302? |
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I can see that. It would be small so not a significant bandwidth hog.
However have we ever seen a MHEG app switch to another mux? Assuming we haven't, is it possible? Will they be able to do it to switch to 302? EDIT - beaten to it
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However have we ever seen a MHEG app switch to another mux? Assuming we haven't, is it possible? Will they be able to do it to switch to 302?
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To answer my own question, BBC Three this evening is not popping up the "(OK) Watch in HD" message, so the SD-HD link data is not in place for the World Athletics program.
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I can see that. It would be small so not a significant bandwidth hog.
However have we ever seen a MHEG app switch to another mux? Assuming we haven't, is it possible? Will they be able to do it to switch to 302? |
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Why is this extra HD stream being wasted on sport? There's already masses of sport available. An HD simulcast of BBC4 would make much more sense, there's some high quality programs shot in HD on there.
Also why always Red Button? A normal channel with a schedule in the Radio Times is much more useful, it's a lot easier to record things when you know they're going to be on. Red Button assumes you're watching live, which I almost never do (partly to get rid of all the annoying "Press Red" popups on the screen). |
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As for the possibilities of Red Button Text appearing on BBC One HD and BBC Two HD, why not ask on Alix's blog linked above?
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Why is this extra HD stream being wasted on sport? There's already masses of sport available. An HD simulcast of BBC4 would make much more sense, there's some high quality programs shot in HD on there.
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Also why always Red Button? A normal channel with a schedule in the Radio Times is much more useful, it's a lot easier to record things when you know they're going to be on. Red Button assumes you're watching live, which I almost never do (partly to get rid of all the annoying "Press Red" popups on the screen).
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Also why always Red Button? A normal channel with a schedule in the Radio Times is much more useful, it's a lot easier to record things when you know they're going to be on. Red Button assumes you're watching live, which I almost never do (partly to get rid of all the annoying "Press Red" popups on the screen).
To get rid of the press red prompts, either press green each time they appear, or rewind live TV by a second or two to remove all MHEG. |
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If they made it a normal channel, it would turn into BBC HD which they have only just got rid of to save money. As a red button stream, they can leave it empty when they don't need it and not have to worry about continuity announcers etc.
To get rid of the press red prompts, either press green each time they appear, or rewind live TV by a second or two to remove all MHEG. |
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I'm suggesting BBC4 HD which just needs a note of its channel number in the listings.
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Strangely enough, the BBC Trust would have to sanction a new "channel", with many things to satisfy (not least a Public Value Test and a Market Impact Assessment by Ofcom), whilst Red Button streams have the bar set to a much, much lower level
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This really falls outside the scope of a discussion about BBC Red Button, but if we are discussing additional BBC HD channels, I suspect there is rather more HD-originated material on BBC Three than BBC Four and it gets higher ratings (1.4% vs 0.9% in Feb 2013), so why should BBC Four get preference? Personally I'd rather it did, but that's not the point.
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Also for the first time we have a very simple Red Button MHEG on the HD mux. "Press Red ⓘ" is now visible on BBC [One|Two] HD which then takes you to a blue button "● Menu" graphic that has two choices "Red Button HD" or "Exit to BBC One".
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Anyone noticed they're using a very dated "press red" graphic on HD, looks like it is from the BBCi days?
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(apart from Sky which hasn't appeared yet). .
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And given the current relationship between Sky and the Beeb I wouldn't be surprised if they spent the whole summer squabbling over this too
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Anyone noticed they're using a very dated "press red" graphic on HD, looks like it is from the BBCi days?
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For something that is only visible for a matter of seconds, I doubt if too many people will be that bothered as to whether it appears dated or not.
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You reckon? There was me thinking it might be worth mentioning on a geeky forum....jeez <rolleyes removed>:
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http://faq.external.bbc.co.uk/questi...ion/red_button has had a bit of a trim.
BBCi was still being used erroneously as the name of the service on the Travel News Disclaimer page the last time I looked. |
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I notice during the intervals on BBC Red Button, they are now inserting trailers every so often. The switch between the trailers and the holding screen is a bit rough.
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Anyone noticed they're using a very dated "press red" graphic on HD, looks like it is from the BBCi days?
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I have a black screen now on 302.
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I have a black screen now on 302.
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