[academia]

Originally Posted by Jane Doh!

Any mother would act the same. It's called being a responsible parent, not "overbearing" or "over protective" or "controlling".

He is very young and this is a person he has met only once before.

Regarding your last sentence, what the hell has that got to do with anything? I don't believe it's true either.

I agree entirely.
And BTW, most gay guys I know get along very well with their mums.

[orange1234]

Originally Posted by Jane Doh!

I didn't say I didn't understand it. I asked what the hell that has to do with anything.

Is it just my posts you are struggling to read properly?

I understand you, you are failing to explain what you are disagreeing with. I have bolded the bit where you disagree.

what the hell has that got to do with anything? I don't believe it's true either.

What are you disagreeing with? What don't you believe?



@academia I agree, but I never said to the contrary.

[Paul237]

Originally Posted by PinkPetunia

Lets look at facts .The OP showed concern for a 17 year old meeting a 25 year old man in a strange country .
As a Mum and a friend I too would show concern . I never heard her infer there was something wrong with a 25 year old , I heard concern that he was practically a stranger in a strange country .

Why is Ireland a "strange country"?

[orange1234]

Originally Posted by PinkPetunia

Lets look at facts .The OP showed concern for a 17 year old meeting a 25 year old man in a strange country .
As a Mum and a friend I too would show concern . I never heard her infer there was something wrong with a 25 year old , I heard concern that he was practically a stranger in a strange country .

I beg to differ PinkPetunia.

Here are a selection of comments from the OP. There is clear concern for the age difference. She imparts her worries to her son, then wants to speak to the boyfriend on the phone, she is not helpful funding the trip, and judges "communicating online for months but that and one actual meeting does not a relationship make!"

Did you read the thread PinkPetunia?

Originally Posted by cjsmummy

I am also very happy my son has understood my worries.

Originally Posted by cjsmummy

Apparently this guy wants to speak to me, so I told my son to pass on my number. Still waiting...

I have no idea how my son intends to fund this trip..I'm certainly not! I have said to him 2 weeks is an awfully long time to spend with a virtual stranger..yes they've apparently being communicating online for months but that and one actual meeting does not a relationship make!

Originally Posted by cjsmummy

I'm waiting to see if this guy phones me, I'm interested to hear what he has to say.

Originally Posted by cjsmummy

So..it looks like the panic is over and my son has changed his mind about this guy. Seems he's been mulling over my concerns for a couple of days and has decided against travelling to Ireland.

Originally Posted by cjsmummy

...I can't help but worry about the age difference here..my son is 17 and this guy is 25... should I be worried?

Originally Posted by cjsmummy

I'm just scared. It's such a big age difference.

[Jane Doh!]

Originally Posted by orange1234

I understand you, you are failing to explain what you are disagreeing with. I have bolded the bit where you disagree.


What are you disagreeing with? What don't you believe?



@academia I agree, but I never said to the contrary.

I don't believe that most gay men you know have mothers who are as you describe.

I don't think, even if it were true, that it has any relevance.

[PinkPetunia]

Originally Posted by Paul237

Why is Ireland a "strange country"?

Strange as in not familiar ? As in stranger ? Maybe we are at cross purposes but here in Ireland we say strange as in not familiar or unaccastomed , As well strange as in odd .!!
Though at times we can be odd too !!

[orange1234]

Originally Posted by Jane Doh!

I don't believe that most gay men you know have mothers who are as you describe.

I don't think, even if it were true, that it has any relevance.

Ah.. so you did understand. You were just pretending not to.

My comment is an observation from my own experiences of all the gay men I know and met. I saw it again here and mentioned it. That makes it relevant.

Why did you pretend not to understand?

[PinkPetunia]

Originally Posted by orange1234

I beg to differ PinkPetunia.

Here are a selection of comments from the OP. There is clear concern for the age difference. She imparts her worries to her son, then wants to speak to the boyfriend on the phone, she is not helpful funding the trip, and judges "communicating online for months but that and one actual meeting does not a relationship make!"

Did you read the thread PinkPetunia?

Yes, I read it orange .I see nothing as you see it .I see a concerned Mum .You can quote the whole post of you wish I still see a concerned Mum . Nothing more , just concern and care and wanting the best fr her son .

[orange1234]

Originally Posted by PinkPetunia

Yes, I read it orange .I see nothing as you see it .I see a concerned Mum .You can quote the whole post of you wish I still see a concerned Mum . Nothing more , just concern and care and wanting the best fr her son .

PinkPetunia you see it your way, but the evidence is clear to see.

[PinkPetunia]

Originally Posted by orange1234;643*****

PinkPetunia you see it your way, but the evidence is clear to see.

Yeh , whatever .I cant be arsed now really to be honest .Just because you keep repeating yourself doesnt make you all knowing

[ninjahandfriend]

Orange1234 are you the Irishman in question or what? I don't get why you're so worked up.

[orange1234]

Originally Posted by ninjahandfriend

Orange1234 are you the Irishman in question or what? I don't get why you're so worked up.

what

[Christa]

Originally Posted by orange1234

That's my opinion as I see it. The OP's son was all for exploring his sexuality, then the OP stepped in and it all changed.

Er no, this is entirely your own imagining & nothing to do with what the OP actually wrote.

I don't see being gay as a choice anyone would make if they had a choice (not that one can choose). I don't know anyone who would choose it. Do you? Why would they?

I think that's a very negative attitude & I don't think its at all representative of gay people in general.

Bisexuals have the choice of which type of relationship to be in & many choose a homosexual one.

You say "you wouldn't mind in the slightest" - well good for you! I wish more people held that view. I do believe though, that while you don't mind in the slightest - the gay person may, and would consider choosing otherwise if they could. Since they can't then discrimination is just that.

I don't agree that the majority of gay people would choose heterosexuality if they could, that's certainly not true of the people I know.

Some started off in straight relationships & chose gay relationships in which they were much happier.

Wake up 17 in 2013 is not the same as 17 in 1950. Do you know how much porn a teenager watches daily? How many conversations about sex they have on line ? The internet provides all the information any teenager would want to know about with videos too boot.

17 year olds think they know everything about the world when really they know f- all, I know this because I've been 17.

It's very naive to think that watching porn has any relevance to real life. If anything it gives people a very screwy idea of what real sex & relationships are going to be like.

[cjsmummy]

Thanks again to all understanding posters.

[cjsmummy]

Originally Posted by orange1234

I beg to differ PinkPetunia.

Here are a selection of comments from the OP. There is clear concern for the age difference. She imparts her worries to her son, then wants to speak to the boyfriend on the phone, she is not helpful funding the trip, and judges "communicating online for months but that and one actual meeting does not a relationship make!"

Did you read the thread PinkPetunia?

Cool editing there..what is your problem?

[Jane Doh!]

Originally Posted by Jane Doh!

I don't believe that most gay men you know have mothers who are as you describe.

I don't think, even if it were true, that it has any relevance.

Originally Posted by orange1234

Ah.. so you did understand. You were just pretending not to.

My comment is an observation from my own experiences of all the gay men I know and met. I saw it again here and mentioned it. That makes it relevant.

Why did you pretend not to understand?

Where did I say I didn't understand?


I asked what the hell it had to do with anything.

Why are you reading words that aren't there?

[cjsmummy]

Originally Posted by Jane Doh!

Where did I say I didn't understand?


I asked what the hell it had to do with anything.

Why are you reading words that aren't there?

Don't bite. I'm trying not to

[Jane Doh!]

Originally Posted by cjsmummy

Don't bite. I'm trying not to

It's a waste of our time, isn't it? I never understand what people get out of behaving like that.

[cjsmummy]

Originally Posted by Jane Doh!

It's a waste of our time, isn't it? I never understand what people get out of behaving like that.

This was a reasonably troll-free thread..it's always a gamble

[Akane Tendo]

Originally Posted by cjsmummy

Cool editing there..what is your problem?

Just ignore him, he has a history of coming into threads to argue and get everyone's backs up.

[PinkPetunia]

Originally Posted by Akane Tendo

Just ignore him, he has a history of coming into threads to argue and get everyone's backs up.

I wonder why ? People like that must need to free up some deep set anger or something .

[orange1234]

I find when people have been caught out, had mirror held up to them or want to hide something - they attack as a form of defence.

I gave advice and made observations contrary to your views. If you don't like it don't take it. It's your life, it doesn't effect me whatsoever.

From the raw nerve I have hit, maybe you may now reconsider your instinctive reactions for more constructive ones. I doubt it though.

Good luck.

[avasgranny]

Hi cjs I am so glad things have sorted themselves out. As I have said in previous threads my daughter went out with 2 guys in their 40's when she was a teenager. Thankfully for me she had met one of them through friends and the other was a neighbour of hers. We met them and got to know them well too. It would have been completely different though had she met someone online then wanted to travel to another country to stay with them at their house for a fortnight. I can't say I would have been so understanding in those circumstances. Its funny bur regardless how old they are we still worry ourselves sick over them, . Not surprised to see the Trolls came out to play, had to happen.

[Jane Doh!]

Originally Posted by orange1234

I find when people have been caught out, had mirror held up to them or want to hide something - they attack as a form of defence.

That's interesting. Not many people are as introspective and honest.

[avasgranny]

Originally Posted by Jane Doh!

That's interesting. Not many people are as introspective and honest.