A thought on BT's Sports channels

indiekid76 · 16-02-2013, 12:58

So, Sky Sports is now only available to new subscribers on infinity. Wouldn't it make sense to cease broadcast of the Sky channels over the air, and replace them with BT's own channels in the short term?

Bangers · 16-02-2013, 18:25

That is what myself and others have been saying for months. Maybe we inspired you to start this thread

andyf94 · 16-02-2013, 19:02

BT are doing lots of stuff behind the scenes at the moment, but if I were trialling it I wouldn't be able to tell you about it because of the agreement triallists sign up to.

I can 'imagine' though, ALL of the non-freeview channels (Sky Sports, ESPN and the linear channels already announced) being piped down your broadband, appearing in the EPG and being of a very good quality.

I've been hugely critical of BT's communication in the past, but at the moment I'm seeing them in a new light.

What I'm seeing of the new Vision platform I'm liking...big time

VisionMan1 · 16-02-2013, 19:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by andyf94

BT are doing lots of stuff behind the scenes at the moment, but if I were trialling it I wouldn't be able to tell you about it because of the agreement triallists sign up to.

I can 'imagine' though, ALL of the non-freeview channels (Sky Sports, ESPN and the linear channels already announced) being piped down your broadband, appearing in the EPG and being of a very good quality.

I've been hugely critical of BT's communication in the past, but at the moment I'm seeing them in a new light.

What I'm seeing of the new Vision platform I'm liking...big time

Sports channels announced where, andyf94?

andyf94 · 16-02-2013, 19:42

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Originally Posted by VisionMan1

Sports channels announced where, andyf94?

I don't understand masona, I didn't mention 'sports channels'
.... I said I could imagine Sky Sports and ESPN being piped through broadband....what's your point?

derek500 · 16-02-2013, 20:04

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Originally Posted by andyf94

.... I said I could imagine Sky Sports and ESPN being piped through broadband....what's your point?

Sky Sports 1-4, F1 and Sky Sports News are already IPTV channels on TalkTalk's Youview. ESPN, too.

I don't expect more than SS1 and 2 on BT though.

stewM · 16-02-2013, 20:19

Just keeping fingers crossed BT can get Sky Sports 3 & 4, F1 and Sky news.

andyf94 · 16-02-2013, 21:17

Horses for courses (or burgers)...I suppose, but it's been a while since I've watched SS 3 or 4 so I don't know if they'd be a real 'killer' addition to Vision. Premier footie is on 1&2 so BT have the 'crowd puller' already.

Anyhow, with the package BT seems to be pulling together with Vision it seems to me that they have a real alternative to the main pay TV provider in the UK...depending of course, on what your preferences are...

Competition is good as far as I'm concerned, and I'm liking what the Vision platform is turning into

...and I like what the B in BT means....

VisionMan1 · 16-02-2013, 21:20

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Originally Posted by derek500

Sky Sports 1-4, F1 and Sky Sports News are already IPTV channels on TalkTalk's Youview. ESPN, too.

I don't expect more than SS1 and 2 on BT though.

No, neither do I. Sky would be loathe to give BT any more channels than what they have to.

Sky don't view TalkTalk as being a threat. BT, they do.

derek500 · 16-02-2013, 22:09

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Originally Posted by VisionMan1

No, neither do I. Sky would be loathe to give BT any more channels than what they have to.

Sky don't view TalkTalk as being a threat. BT, they do.

,,,,and Sky will be more than happy to get as many as possible YouView customers locked into an 18 month TalkTalk contract before BT Sport arrives.

VisionMan1 · 16-02-2013, 22:17

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Originally Posted by derek500

,,,,and Sky will be more than happy to get as many as possible YouView customers locked into an 18 month TalkTalk contract before BT Sport arrives.

Ha ha ha! Yeah. TalkTalk went to market early, and judging by their recent published results, YouView has been a smash hit for them.

And I expect BT Sports will be available on the TT platform too. And by then, all linear channels will be recordable too.

derek500 · 16-02-2013, 22:44

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Originally Posted by VisionMan1

Ha ha ha! Yeah. TalkTalk went to market early, and judging by their recent published results, YouView has been a smash hit for them.

And I expect BT Sports will be available on the TT platform too. And by then, all linear channels will be recordable too.

Maybe it will. I wonder how many will take both Sky Sports for £30 and BT Sport for £???.

Or will it be like Setanta/ESPN where only a small minority of Sky Sports subscribers have paid extra for a comparatively small amount of extra matches?

Plus, there's still no deal for Sky branded linear channels on BT's YouView, so it may just be the 'statutory' SS1&2.

VisionMan1 · 17-02-2013, 00:39

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Originally Posted by derek500

Maybe it will. I wonder how many will take both Sky Sports for £30 and BT Sport for £???.

Or will it be like Setanta/ESPN where only a small minority of Sky Sports subscribers have paid extra for a comparatively small amount of extra matches?

Plus, there's still no deal for Sky branded linear channels on BT's YouView, so it may just be the 'statutory' SS1&2.

That's what everyone else is wondering too.

But they will be there (1&2 I mean), it's the pricing which will be interesting. As BT are expected to offer their own users such at a substantial discount, and BT Sports too. And while the games may be small in number (38) not all will be small in stature.

1andrew1 · 17-02-2013, 01:50

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Originally Posted by derek500

Sky Sports 1-4, F1 and Sky Sports News are already IPTV channels on TalkTalk's Youview. ESPN, too.

I don't expect more than SS1 and 2 on BT though.

I'll stick my neck out - I do, though not necessarily in HD.

VisionMan1 · 17-02-2013, 02:29

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I'll stick my neck out - I do, though not necessarily in HD.

Whilst theres nothing wrong with sticking your neck out, no, there won't, unfortunately. Not that I would watch SS 3&4 anyway.

I'm just wondering if 1&2 will be offered in HD on the new YouView platform. As thats unconfirmed, at the moment. But I don't think they will be. Though that is just a guess.

1andrew1 · 17-02-2013, 10:59

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Originally Posted by VisionMan1

Whilst theres nothing wrong with sticking your neck out, no, there won't, unfortunately. Not that I would watch SS 3&4 anyway.

Still only February and negotiations between the two parties are about to start. At this stage, as far as I'm aware we've all got informed opinions but no hard data.

1andrew1 · 17-02-2013, 11:03

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Originally Posted by VisionMan1

Whilst theres nothing wrong with sticking your neck out, no, there won't, unfortunately. Not that I would watch SS 3&4 anyway.

Still only February and negotiations between the two parties are about to start. At this stage, as far as I'm aware we've all got informed opinions, a few unknowns in the mix (eg European rugby union rights, ESPN UK & NA's futures, cited tie-up with Box Nation) but no hard data on the Sky-BT situation

promo-only · 17-02-2013, 13:24

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Still only February and negotiations between the two parties are about to start. At this stage, as far as I'm aware we've all got informed opinions, a few unknowns in the mix (eg European rugby union rights, ESPN UK & NA's futures, cited tie-up with Box Nation) but no hard data on the Sky-BT situation

Agreed. You dealt with that much better than I would have done

VisionMan1 · 17-02-2013, 17:36

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Originally Posted by VisionMan1

Whilst theres nothing wrong with sticking your neck out, no, there won't, unfortunately. Not that I would watch SS 3&4 anyway.

I'm just wondering if 1&2 will be offered in HD on the new YouView platform. As thats unconfirmed, at the moment. But I don't think they will be. Though that is just a guess.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Still only February and negotiations between the two parties are about to start. At this stage, as far as I'm aware we've all got informed opinions, a few unknowns in the mix (eg European rugby union rights, ESPN UK & NA's futures, cited tie-up with Box Nation) but no hard data on the Sky-BT situation

True. And if I came across 100% like I know, I don't. So apologies for coming across that way.

But I do know none of the channels at the moment are in HD.

But as you have pointed out, 1andrew1, the situation as it stands is fluid, until the agreements have actually been agreed.

Indeed, there are many unknowns, at the moment, so it should be an interesting 12 months...

Timbionline · 17-02-2013, 18:11

I'm sorry but I have no idea why sky sports is such a "game changer".

I, and like many people I know, have no intention of subscribing to the new BT sports, nor sky sports.

I am now glad that I have the likes of GOLD, E!, and crime and investigation via my broadband connection though.

scotty2808 · 18-02-2013, 11:35

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Originally Posted by Timbionline

I'm sorry but I have no idea why sky sports is such a "game changer".

Sky sports has been one of the major drivers in pay tv. People want it - yes i get not everyone is interested but there is a significant market out there with people willing to pay for those channels.

Until Sky Sports arrived on the Freeview platform the majority of the country had 1 single supplier. Sky Sports is now available to almost all of the UK through different providers.

So why is it a game changer - It's a game changer when there a company with a significant monopoly have the first floodgate opened and consumers have choice.

The same happened to BT through regulation, BT (and Virgin) want the same to happen to Sky's TV channels.

Hup_73 · 18-02-2013, 12:56

Thought I'd share an article from the Telegraph - there's no new information, and they only really get Sky's opinion but I thought I'd share anyway in case anyone was interested...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/987...ster-City.html

promo-only · 18-02-2013, 19:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hup_73

Thought I'd share an article from the Telegraph - there's no new information, and they only really get Sky's opinion but I thought I'd share anyway in case anyone was interested...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/987...ster-City.html

Thanks for sharing.

I've never thought of it like that before, but I like the way they go in from the angle of Man U (Sky) and Man City (BT). Can't wait to see how noisy those neighbours get

1andrew1 · 19-02-2013, 00:28

Meanwhile back in BT Towers, the Daily Mail reports that Rio Ferdinand has been contacted by BT Sport.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/art...=feeds-newsxml

1andrew1 · 19-02-2013, 11:35

A good summary of BT Sport's challenges and endeavours here. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...l-8500455.html

16-02-2013, 12:58	#1
indiekid76 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 299	A thought on BT's Sports channels So, Sky Sports is now only available to new subscribers on infinity. Wouldn't it make sense to cease broadcast of the Sky channels over the air, and replace them with BT's own channels in the short term?

19-02-2013, 00:28	#24
1andrew1 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 3,981	Rio Ferdinand to sign for BT Sport? Meanwhile back in BT Towers, the Daily Mail reports that Rio Ferdinand has been contacted by BT Sport. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/art...=feeds-newsxml

16-02-2013, 18:25	#2
Bangers Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Posts: 2,924	That is what myself and others have been saying for months. Maybe we inspired you to start this thread

16-02-2013, 19:02	#3
andyf94 Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sunny South Coast Posts: 298	BT are doing lots of stuff behind the scenes at the moment, but if I were trialling it I wouldn't be able to tell you about it because of the agreement triallists sign up to. I can 'imagine' though, ALL of the non-freeview channels (Sky Sports, ESPN and the linear channels already announced) being piped down your broadband, appearing in the EPG and being of a very good quality. I've been hugely critical of BT's communication in the past, but at the moment I'm seeing them in a new light. What I'm seeing of the new Vision platform I'm liking...big time

16-02-2013, 19:12	#4
VisionMan1 Inactive Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 2,107	Quote: Originally Posted by andyf94 BT are doing lots of stuff behind the scenes at the moment, but if I were trialling it I wouldn't be able to tell you about it because of the agreement triallists sign up to. I can 'imagine' though, ALL of the non-freeview channels (Sky Sports, ESPN and the linear channels already announced) being piped down your broadband, appearing in the EPG and being of a very good quality. I've been hugely critical of BT's communication in the past, but at the moment I'm seeing them in a new light. What I'm seeing of the new Vision platform I'm liking...big time Sports channels announced where, andyf94?

16-02-2013, 19:42	#5
andyf94 Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sunny South Coast Posts: 298	Quote: Originally Posted by VisionMan1 Sports channels announced where, andyf94? I don't understand masona, I didn't mention 'sports channels' .... I said I could imagine Sky Sports and ESPN being piped through broadband....what's your point?

16-02-2013, 20:04	#6
derek500 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 20,375	Quote: Originally Posted by andyf94 .... I said I could imagine Sky Sports and ESPN being piped through broadband....what's your point? Sky Sports 1-4, F1 and Sky Sports News are already IPTV channels on TalkTalk's Youview. ESPN, too. I don't expect more than SS1 and 2 on BT though.

16-02-2013, 20:19	#7
stewM Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Saddleworth Posts: 288	Just keeping fingers crossed BT can get Sky Sports 3 & 4, F1 and Sky news.

16-02-2013, 21:17	#8
andyf94 Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sunny South Coast Posts: 298	Horses for courses (or burgers)...I suppose, but it's been a while since I've watched SS 3 or 4 so I don't know if they'd be a real 'killer' addition to Vision. Premier footie is on 1&2 so BT have the 'crowd puller' already. Anyhow, with the package BT seems to be pulling together with Vision it seems to me that they have a real alternative to the main pay TV provider in the UK...depending of course, on what your preferences are... Competition is good as far as I'm concerned, and I'm liking what the Vision platform is turning into ...and I like what the B in BT means....

16-02-2013, 21:20	#9
VisionMan1 Inactive Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 2,107	Quote: Originally Posted by derek500 Sky Sports 1-4, F1 and Sky Sports News are already IPTV channels on TalkTalk's Youview. ESPN, too. I don't expect more than SS1 and 2 on BT though. No, neither do I. Sky would be loathe to give BT any more channels than what they have to. Sky don't view TalkTalk as being a threat. BT, they do.

16-02-2013, 22:09	#10
derek500 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 20,375	Quote: Originally Posted by VisionMan1 No, neither do I. Sky would be loathe to give BT any more channels than what they have to. Sky don't view TalkTalk as being a threat. BT, they do. ,,,,and Sky will be more than happy to get as many as possible YouView customers locked into an 18 month TalkTalk contract before BT Sport arrives.

16-02-2013, 22:17	#11
VisionMan1 Inactive Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 2,107	Quote: Originally Posted by derek500 ,,,,and Sky will be more than happy to get as many as possible YouView customers locked into an 18 month TalkTalk contract before BT Sport arrives. Ha ha ha! Yeah. TalkTalk went to market early, and judging by their recent published results, YouView has been a smash hit for them. And I expect BT Sports will be available on the TT platform too. And by then, all linear channels will be recordable too.

16-02-2013, 22:44	#12
derek500 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 20,375	Quote: Originally Posted by VisionMan1 Ha ha ha! Yeah. TalkTalk went to market early, and judging by their recent published results, YouView has been a smash hit for them. And I expect BT Sports will be available on the TT platform too. And by then, all linear channels will be recordable too. Maybe it will. I wonder how many will take both Sky Sports for £30 and BT Sport for £???. Or will it be like Setanta/ESPN where only a small minority of Sky Sports subscribers have paid extra for a comparatively small amount of extra matches? Plus, there's still no deal for Sky branded linear channels on BT's YouView, so it may just be the 'statutory' SS1&2.

17-02-2013, 00:39	#13
VisionMan1 Inactive Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 2,107	Quote: Originally Posted by derek500 Maybe it will. I wonder how many will take both Sky Sports for £30 and BT Sport for £???. Or will it be like Setanta/ESPN where only a small minority of Sky Sports subscribers have paid extra for a comparatively small amount of extra matches? Plus, there's still no deal for Sky branded linear channels on BT's YouView, so it may just be the 'statutory' SS1&2. That's what everyone else is wondering too. But they will be there (1&2 I mean), it's the pricing which will be interesting. As BT are expected to offer their own users such at a substantial discount, and BT Sports too. And while the games may be small in number (38) not all will be small in stature.

17-02-2013, 01:50	#14
1andrew1 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 3,981	Quote: Originally Posted by derek500 Sky Sports 1-4, F1 and Sky Sports News are already IPTV channels on TalkTalk's Youview. ESPN, too. I don't expect more than SS1 and 2 on BT though. I'll stick my neck out - I do, though not necessarily in HD.

17-02-2013, 02:29	#15
VisionMan1 Inactive Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 2,107	Quote: Originally Posted by 1andrew1 I'll stick my neck out - I do, though not necessarily in HD. Whilst theres nothing wrong with sticking your neck out, no, there won't, unfortunately. Not that I would watch SS 3&4 anyway. I'm just wondering if 1&2 will be offered in HD on the new YouView platform. As thats unconfirmed, at the moment. But I don't think they will be. Though that is just a guess.

17-02-2013, 10:59	#16
1andrew1 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 3,981	Quote: Originally Posted by VisionMan1 Whilst theres nothing wrong with sticking your neck out, no, there won't, unfortunately. Not that I would watch SS 3&4 anyway. Still only February and negotiations between the two parties are about to start. At this stage, as far as I'm aware we've all got informed opinions but no hard data.

17-02-2013, 11:03	#17
1andrew1 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 3,981	Quote: Originally Posted by VisionMan1 Whilst theres nothing wrong with sticking your neck out, no, there won't, unfortunately. Not that I would watch SS 3&4 anyway. Still only February and negotiations between the two parties are about to start. At this stage, as far as I'm aware we've all got informed opinions, a few unknowns in the mix (eg European rugby union rights, ESPN UK & NA's futures, cited tie-up with Box Nation) but no hard data on the Sky-BT situation

17-02-2013, 13:24	#18
promo-only Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Liverpool Posts: 2,935	Quote: Originally Posted by 1andrew1 Still only February and negotiations between the two parties are about to start. At this stage, as far as I'm aware we've all got informed opinions, a few unknowns in the mix (eg European rugby union rights, ESPN UK & NA's futures, cited tie-up with Box Nation) but no hard data on the Sky-BT situation Agreed. You dealt with that much better than I would have done

17-02-2013, 17:36	#19
VisionMan1 Inactive Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 2,107	Quote: Originally Posted by VisionMan1 Whilst theres nothing wrong with sticking your neck out, no, there won't, unfortunately. Not that I would watch SS 3&4 anyway. I'm just wondering if 1&2 will be offered in HD on the new YouView platform. As thats unconfirmed, at the moment. But I don't think they will be. Though that is just a guess. Quote: Originally Posted by 1andrew1 Still only February and negotiations between the two parties are about to start. At this stage, as far as I'm aware we've all got informed opinions, a few unknowns in the mix (eg European rugby union rights, ESPN UK & NA's futures, cited tie-up with Box Nation) but no hard data on the Sky-BT situation True. And if I came across 100% like I know, I don't. So apologies for coming across that way. But I do know none of the channels at the moment are in HD. But as you have pointed out, 1andrew1, the situation as it stands is fluid, until the agreements have actually been agreed. Indeed, there are many unknowns, at the moment, so it should be an interesting 12 months...

17-02-2013, 18:11	#20
Timbionline Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kernow Posts: 343	I'm sorry but I have no idea why sky sports is such a "game changer". I, and like many people I know, have no intention of subscribing to the new BT sports, nor sky sports. I am now glad that I have the likes of GOLD, E!, and crime and investigation via my broadband connection though.

18-02-2013, 11:35	#21
scotty2808 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 435	Quote: Originally Posted by Timbionline I'm sorry but I have no idea why sky sports is such a "game changer". Sky sports has been one of the major drivers in pay tv. People want it - yes i get not everyone is interested but there is a significant market out there with people willing to pay for those channels. Until Sky Sports arrived on the Freeview platform the majority of the country had 1 single supplier. Sky Sports is now available to almost all of the UK through different providers. So why is it a game changer - It's a game changer when there a company with a significant monopoly have the first floodgate opened and consumers have choice. The same happened to BT through regulation, BT (and Virgin) want the same to happen to Sky's TV channels.

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A thought on BT's Sports channels

18-02-2013, 12:56	#22
Hup_73 Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 301	Thought I'd share an article from the Telegraph - there's no new information, and they only really get Sky's opinion but I thought I'd share anyway in case anyone was interested... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/987...ster-City.html

18-02-2013, 19:32	#23
promo-only Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Liverpool Posts: 2,935	Quote: Originally Posted by Hup_73 Thought I'd share an article from the Telegraph - there's no new information, and they only really get Sky's opinion but I thought I'd share anyway in case anyone was interested... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/987...ster-City.html Thanks for sharing. I've never thought of it like that before, but I like the way they go in from the angle of Man U (Sky) and Man City (BT). Can't wait to see how noisy those neighbours get

19-02-2013, 11:35	#25
1andrew1 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 3,981	A good summary of BT Sport's challenges and endeavours here. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...l-8500455.html