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Old 18-02-2013, 21:41
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Caspian is quite frightening.
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Old 18-02-2013, 21:41
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there is if you're a psychiatrist. Mentally ill equals not the patients fault. Mentally disordered aka personality disordered is often seen as untreatable and the person seen as acting out, when in reality they often have as little control over their actions as someone with bi polar or schizophrenia. Also mentally disordered people quite often have a mental illness alongside their disorder.
It's essentially someone who's ways of thinking and comprehending has been skewed in childhood and it affects how they react to stressful events. He probably thinks only in the now.
I agree with this. Very true. A personality 'disorder' as it's termed is basically someone with an extreme personality in some way and that's simply the way they are, nature and nurture being the cause. It's not pleasant viewing but these people are a messed up and thats the way it is. They can talk cogently and behave normally/obediently most of the time but inside their heads is probably a whirlwind of shite. I dont pity them, I just dont judge them without first understanding.
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Old 18-02-2013, 21:41
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these are teens and barely adults. Show us a proper adult prison!
But this is what the programme is about....
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Old 18-02-2013, 21:42
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Caspean's got a kid? Get ready to see him on Jeremy Kyle when he eventually gets paroled...
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Old 18-02-2013, 21:42
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Father at 14...and so it goes on
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Old 18-02-2013, 21:42
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Caspian is quite frightening.
Agree with this
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Old 18-02-2013, 21:43
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Couldn't we pay the Russian government to take a few of them in their penal system.
I am sure they will take good care of them and possibly cure them.
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Old 18-02-2013, 21:43
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A dad at 14. How sad that he can talk there about wanting to be a good father, yet cant make the association between that and his behaviour of the other day.
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Old 18-02-2013, 21:43
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This black kid has narrow views... having a child when being a child... "cos you might die, innit".

Pathetic.
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Old 18-02-2013, 21:44
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Aaaand we have that BBC drama starting series 2 in a few weeks...
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Old 18-02-2013, 21:44
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This black kid has narrow views... having a child when being a child... "cos you might die, innit".

Pathetic.
He sounded stoned when he was spouting that shit.
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Old 18-02-2013, 21:44
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Father at 14...and so it goes on
Yeah but he had to innit cos he didn't know when he was get killed!
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Old 18-02-2013, 21:45
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This black kid has narrow views... having a child when being a child... "cos you might die, innit".

Pathetic.
I think a lot of it is a bluff. Trying to appear hard in front of the cameras so as not to lose face.

I'd be very surprised if the prisoners have been allowed to watch this tonight.
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Old 18-02-2013, 21:45
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What a lovely country we have now, I`m wondering if I can get an application form for living in Iraq.. Time for an upgrade I think.
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Old 18-02-2013, 21:45
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Yeah but he had to innit cos he didn't know when he was get killed!
Innit bruv, yer get me
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Old 18-02-2013, 21:45
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Couldn't we pay the Russian government to take a few of them in their penal system.
I am sure they will take good care of them and possibly cure them.
Cure them??? Lol.
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Old 18-02-2013, 21:46
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given Caspian's threats of rape and desire to kill, the conception must have been a frightening experience
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Old 18-02-2013, 21:46
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Aaaand we have that BBC drama starting series 2 in a few weeks...
What's that then?

I hope that having kids gives some of these lads an incentive to do the time, keep their noses clean, get out and learn to be a father.

Not that it did for my cousin, sadly. But maybe there's hope for some of them.
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Old 18-02-2013, 21:47
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grr i hate when they try to seperate mentally ill and mentally disordered.
Being honest I thought the above post read as though the poster was intolerant of attempts to specifically define different types of mental health issue .......now that she has explained the reason why she 'hates' it ( i.e because it is discriminatory in terms of the care that sufferers get) I totally understand and apologise for my scathing reply which would always be reserved for people who are not prepared to look beyond the surface of what their TV is serving up and not people who care about the issue like Yorkiegal obviously does.
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Old 18-02-2013, 21:47
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given Caspian's threats of rape and desire to kill, the conception must have been a frightening experience

nice name though. bet he got a lot of stick for that as a kid.
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Old 18-02-2013, 21:48
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Old 18-02-2013, 21:48
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What's that then?
Prisoner's Wives?
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Old 18-02-2013, 21:48
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What's that then?
Prisoners' Wives series 2 starts soon...
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Old 18-02-2013, 21:49
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Blair's children.
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Old 18-02-2013, 21:50
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Sorry I should have put a at the end
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