How sad really. Makes me pine for the analogue days of 17m for a teatime showing of Neighbours.......

What time? If it was the afternoon/early evening, it could hit a 50% share.

No it isn't. It's a totally true point. And the point stands for Let's dance! As soon as better competition came along it lost a good chunk of viewers.

Anyway what's wrong with ITV doing well?? There is some shear stupidity on this thread and it winds me up. I make a good point and I am slammed for bias.

Impossible situation!

Ken

Presumably at about 6.30 to 6.45

The BBC thought Lets Dance was strong competition. Before it aired we had loads of people here saying it was going to outrage Ant and Dec

Of course it wouldent outrage them.

And you have changed the point. You will see when DW and The Voice comes along that SNT is dented. It may still beat DW but it won't be pulling these figures.

Thats my point and I am sure it will be proven. I presume you love SNT because SNT fans are impossible to debate with!

Ken

Sorry out rate - damn spell checker!

SNT is giving people what they want - a traditional Saturday night show. Amazing now that people are clamouring for more talent shows instead

Oh! Ha! Make's me look a fool for not realising!!!

With Saturday night TV, If it's entertaining and fresh people will watch it. I wouldn't call SNT a traditional show, it's essentially a game show but it's a format people like and enjoy and that's why it does well.

Ken

completely agree snt is a breath of fresh air so bored of talent shows hope we have more of these types of shows on itv and bbc

You see I don't. I see it as a 10 year old format being reused by ant and dec because they can't find "a breath of fresh air". I think it's terrible that they are relying on ancient shows because they can't come up with something new.

Ken

Wats the best twitters sites to follow for ratings

your opinion but me have found it thoroughly enjoyable I do watch most of ant and decs itv shows and I find this along with the jungle my favourites to watch

Ant and dec have tried new formats and they just haven't worked push the button didnt do great

On the subject of the possible late night talk show changes next year

If Leno does retire from presenting The Tonight Show after next year to be replaced by Jimmy Fallon who do you think would win every night in the ratings battle that would follow

F1ken is right, SNT is only rating that well because it is facing weak competition. Up against a Pointless repeat, 6.5m is nothing special.

It was getting the same numbers against Let's Dance. It is still a very good audience.

BBC1 Scotland won't be showing the Formula 1 re-run this afternoon, they've got the Scottish League Cup Final instead (St Mirren vs Hearts).

exactly some ppl just don't like ant and dec 6.5m nowadays is still very gud

"Up against a Pointless repeat", you trying to down play Pointless as some old rubbish that nobody cares about, when in reality it's a very popular show that as you know pulls in large audiences.

The fact it is a repeat is irrelevant as you wouldn't know unless you've already seen that episode.

Unless you study the Radio Times carefully, but I suspect I'm a minority with regard to that.

Well it was sold to something like 180 countries so it's pretty successful.

Most people check before watching a show if its new or a repeat. That's why something like call the midwife gets 9m for new epsiodes and then 2m for repeats. I'm not saying pointless is some old rubbish, but a repeat off pointless is weaker competition than a new episode of let's dance. So the fact snt ratings didn't grow above 7m yesterday is a bit surprising to me. It's a solid rating but nothing special.

I tend to ignore your posts Sam, but you do say some odd things sometimes.

Call the Midwife is not a valid example when the repeats are on Sunday afternoons. Yes, a few primetime repeats did badly last year, but that was in June if I recall.

If you need a better example, look at The Chase, during half term it had a week of repeats, yet the ratings were near identical. It doesn't matter as much with quizzes whether it is a repeat or not - how do you think The Weakest Link survived so long?

We normally watch Pointless and record Take Away. But we noticed it was billed as a repeat (and the participants listed proved it) so we abandoned the BBC and watched Ant and Dec live. We do the same with Chase Celeb specials, Family Fortune and Who wants to be a millionaire specials as these are often slipped in as random repeats.

So you would never post a comment that such-and-such a BBC1 programme should have done better than it did last night because it was only on against a repeat of Celebrity Millionaire or Doc Martin.

Yeah, right.


The Chase repeats weren't billed as repeats and it's very difficult to tell the regular episodes apart. Likewise regular WL episodes all look the same as well. So tough to tell apart repeats from new episodes. Particularly when they all go out in the same timeslot.

Celebrity editions would be easier to recognize as repeats because it's easier to remember such-and-such a celebrity as being on it before.