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The Ratings Thread (Part 46)
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jda135
17-03-2013
Ratings (all excluding +1);

You've Been Framed - 3.32m (15.1%)
Saturday Night Takeaway - 6.69m (29.4%)
The Cube - 4.06m (17.5%)
Jonathan Ross Show - 2.81m (13.3%)

Pointless Celebrities - 4.48m (19.7%)
In It to Win It - 4.46m (19.2%)
Casualty - 4.85m (21.0%)
Mrs. Brown's Boys - 4.88m (22.9%)
MOTD - 3.54m (25.5%)
Football League Show - 1.04m (15.6%)

SIX NATIONS;

Italy v Ireland - 3.53m (28.1%)
Wales v England - 7.52m (38.5%)
France v Scotland - 1.97m (8.6%)
Glenn A
17-03-2013
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Most people check before watching a show if its new or a repeat. That's why something like call the midwife gets 9m for new epsiodes and then 2m for repeats. I'm not saying pointless is some old rubbish, but a repeat off pointless is weaker competition than a new episode of let's dance. So the fact snt ratings didn't grow above 7m yesterday is a bit surprising to me. It's a solid rating but nothing special.”

Some repeats do very well, particularly if it's a repeat of a popular show. Repeats of MBB pull in a very respectable 4.5 million and New Tricks repeats get 4 million, meanwhile some cheap repeat filler like the Coronation St omnibus will be lucky to break 500,000 as the show has already been repeated during the week and soaps tend not to repeat well anyway, hence the EE omnibus being moved.
iaindb
17-03-2013
Plenty of tweets from Richard Osman this morning but none mention the ratings for last night's Celebrity Pointless. Hmmm.




edit: just seen the figures posted by jda135 (cheers for that). Can't understand why Richard would be so reticent about that. That would be a decent figure for a new episode, especially against SNT and only 70,000 less than the Let's Dance final last week.
SamuelW
17-03-2013
Mrs Browns boys repeat was most watched show in peak time for bbc1 yesterday. Emphasises the fact that their Saturday lineup at the moment isnt great. But it should all change in two weeks time. Couldve been even worse for bbc1 yesterday if theyd shown the Scotland match, good decision putting it on bbc2.
Glenn A
17-03-2013
It's amazing how a 22 year old clips show that must be the cheapest LE show on the box gets over 3 million viewers. YBF seems to be a consistent performer and ITV must be well chuffed as this show defies the odds and performs well.
Brekkie
17-03-2013
Originally Posted by jda135:
“SIX NATIONS;

Italy v Ireland - 3.53m (28.1%)
Wales v England - 7.52m (38.5%)
France v Scotland - 1.97m (8.6%)”

Look forward to seeing the breakdown of the figures in Wales later this week.

And that France figure just shows how stupid the Six Nations are to allocate the times of the final day matches before the tournament even begins. If they'd waited till the end of Round 3 and then switched the last two games around I'm sure both would have rated higher. (That said it wasn't just about timing, it was always baffling how they put the defending champions vs one of the obvious favourite in the middle slot!)


P.S. In non-rating news looks like we should definately be spared Mel B on The X Factor this year - as well as joining America's Got Talent she'll also be a judge on Australia's Got Talent. They've only just begun the producer auditions so presumably that won't air until the autumn.
C14E
17-03-2013
Takeaway can only beat what is put in front of it. 5 weeks ago Lets Dance was launching to nearly 7m viewers and it knocked that right down so it has faced some decent competition at least. Of course the extent of the competition will cause some variation in the ratings. But how many ITV shows have we seen face no competition and get far less than 6.5m? Nor do I recall Samuel and co posting last year that Strictly Come Dancing was only rating so well because ITV didn't compete with it. Good ratings are good ratings!

As for Pointless, I'm sure it will have a decent audience. Probably not too far off Lets Dance, Britain's Brightest and some episodes of The Voice.

I'm pleased Takeaway is doing well because it is a breath of fresh air in a way. Yes, the format itself is old but the fact is that there's nothing even vaguely like it on Saturday nights. It's good to see something doing well in that slot that isn't a talent show and doesn't involve celebrities learning to...
C14E
17-03-2013
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“P.S. In non-rating news looks like we should definately be spared Mel B on The X Factor this year - as well as joining America's Got Talent she'll also be a judge on Australia's Got Talent. They've only just begun the producer auditions so presumably that won't air until the autumn.”

America's Got Talent, Austalia's Got Talent and X Factor: Australia? She has done well out of this talent show thing!

EDIT: Seems like she might be leaving X Factor Australia, not sure why? Does it clash with America's Got Talent?
garyessex
17-03-2013
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“It's amazing how a 22 year old clips show that must be the cheapest LE show on the box gets over 3 million viewers. YBF seems to be a consistent performer and ITV must be well chuffed as this show defies the odds and performs well.”

They seem uite reliant on it on ITV2 aswell
Steve Williams
17-03-2013
Originally Posted by Sceptilianus:
“Between a 6PM timeslot and a non-existent marketing campaign - it looks like the BBC's plan for doctor who to get a sub-5million overnight rating is going well.”

Why would they want that to happen, then? Stop being paranoid.

Originally Posted by johnnymc:
“Too much for bbc one to actually signpost their loyal viewers to what time doctor who is actually being shown. But of course it wont get a fixed slot either. I suppose they dont care about the extra millions of viewers they loose through rubbish scheduling.”

What's the point of telling us now what time it's going to be on in two weeks? My TiVo doesn't go up until then so I can't put it into record. If you tell people now they'll probably forget it. They haven't said what time The Voice and The Village are starting either and you can't say they're not massively committed to that. The X Factor and Strictly do perfectly well without a fixed slot as well. Stop being paranoid, again.

Originally Posted by NeilVW:
“Comic Relief (BBC Two): 4.48m (26.0%)”

That's a hell of a rating, especially as it was up against the news on BBC1 and you'd assume quite a big percentage of the audience would have taken the channel switch as a cue to go to bed. Of course it's only in recent years that the programme has continued as a seamless affair on BBC2, in the nineties and early noughties the BBC2 bit, when it was at 9pm, tended to be a pre-recorded affair, cast adrift from the main business.

Originally Posted by NeilVW:
“There had been speculation that the audition shows will be shorter than last year. Someone said that last year they had to be longer but fewer in number than originally intended, in order to get the series finished in time for Euro 2012, so a 60-minute length would not be unexpected.”

It'd be better if it was an hour long as well, I think, you don't gain much from programmes going on for ages. What I quite liked about the opening episodes last year was that they got a bit of a move on and seemed quite slick.

Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Excellent tweet from TV Scoops. Itv4 had 3m viewers at 20.30 on Thursday night. This was its highest ever audience.”

Well done to them for that, I know it affected the ITV1 audience a bit but they're all ITV so they'll be happy either way. I thought ITV4 was pretty much doomed when they lost the second choice Champions League matches but fair play to them, the Europa League has been hugely successful. The ITV digital channels all seem to be doing well, they all effectively target the audiences they're after.

Just wish they'd do another series of The Big Match Revisited, rather than just repeat the same episodes a million times.

Originally Posted by iaindb:
“Not an unusual situation. Back in 1980 Edward Woodward starred in a BBC1 sitcom called Nice Work which came with a Christmas special that was clearly comissioned before series 1 aired. This sticks in my mind only because The Radio Times Guide To Comedy makes a point of observing that the presence of the Christmas special indicates that the BBC must have had high hopes for the sitcom, but it failed to return for a second series.”

Yes, and Woodward is also prominently featured in the 1980 Christmas Radio Times, alongside all the other stars of that BBC Christmas. There was a trend, of course, for series to be commissioned for a second series before the first aired, which is one of the things that saved Red Dwarf because the first series' ratings declined sharply during the run.

The Steven Moffatt sitcom Chalk in 1997 was also commissioned for two series immediately, though of course the first series was a flop and the second series (which followed extremely quickly, just six months after the first, presuamably to get it out of the way) was shoved in a late night slot. Actually I wouldn't mind seeing Chalk again, actually, it was promoted incessantly by the Beeb at the time which annoyed everyone and I think the first episode was apparently the worst, which didn't help it. I didn't like that one but it can't have been that bad with Moffatt involved.

I know Chris Barrie's post-Britass sitcom A Prince Among Men around the same time also had a two series order, but the second run had virtually no promotion and then got dumped on Sunday afternoons after five minutes.

I dunno about Vicious, to me it doesn't sound mainstream enough for ITV, though hopefully it'll funny either way, we can never have too many good sitcoms.

Originally Posted by gavin shipman:
“Wales doesn't have a National Football team at a high level but Swansea are in the premiership.”

Originally Posted by seansnotmyname@:
“Cardiff probably will be next year too.”

And of course Wrexham are on course for a fantastic league and cup double, the first half of which will be secured at Wembley next week. As the world knows.
mrstreetcred
17-03-2013
I think takeaway came back at the right time, people clearly are now fed up of tv talent shows, and although not a new format, in comparison it feels fresh. For me, it's the first series I've decided to watch!!

However I do enjoy it, but it's not great, some of the gags are desparate, the end of show show shouldn't have ant and dec unless its actually gonna add value to it. The best bit has to be the celeb ear thing
T Penery
17-03-2013
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“Plenty of tweets from Richard Osman this morning but none mention the ratings for last night's Celebrity Pointless. Hmmm.




edit: just seen the figures posted by jda135 (cheers for that). Can't understand why Richard would be so reticent about that. That would be a decent figure for a new episode, especially against SNT and only 70,000 less than the Let's Dance final last week.”

He did tweet last night it saying.

#PointlessCelebrities on in 5 minutes on BBC1! Up against 'Sat Night Takeaway'. That should make for some, umm, 'interesting' ratings.

You could tell he wasn't expecting a repeat to do wonderful things against Ant & Dec,
iaindb
17-03-2013
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“Look forward to seeing the breakdown of the figures in Wales later this week.

And that France figure just shows how stupid the Six Nations are to allocate the times of the final day matches before the tournament even begins. If they'd waited till the end of Round 3 and then switched the last two games around I'm sure both would have rated higher. (That said it wasn't just about timing, it was always baffling how they put the defending champions vs one of the obvious favourite in the middle slot!)”

I think France primetime games are for the benefit of French TV. I think most rugby followers were taken by surprise at how poorly France did in the tournament this year.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

Originally Posted by C14E:
“Takeaway can only beat what is put in front of it. 5 weeks ago Lets Dance was launching to nearly 7m viewers and it knocked that right down so it has faced some decent competition at least. Of course the extent of the competition will cause some variation in the ratings. But how many ITV shows have we seen face no competition and get far less than 6.5m? Nor do I recall Samuel and co posting last year that Strictly Come Dancing was only rating so well because ITV didn't compete with it. Good ratings are good ratings!
”

At its peak Let's Dance would have put up a better fight against SNT than it did. It was a tired format just ready for something half-decent to kick it into touch.
Roscoe Barnes
17-03-2013
SNT has been extremely consistent since its launch with the ratings been more or less the same every week. I think it will take a hit when The Voice starts. I have no idea how The Voice is going to fair this time round and with the way ratings completely collasped as the live shows launched last series. I can't see it matching its 8.4m launch from last year at all. I'd probably say it will launch between 6-7m. Also I can't see it hitting the heights it reached for the first series and plus this year its not got the press stuff surrounding its ratings battle with BGT as the latter is launching later this year.
rzt
17-03-2013
Friday 15th March soap ratings (exc +1):

13:45- Doctors: 1.56m
13:45- Neighbours: 633k
17:30- Neighbours: 876k
18:00- Home and Away: 759k
18:30- Hollyoaks: 955k
19:00- Emmerdale: 6.31m
19:30- Coronation Street: 7.62m
20:30- Coronation Street: 6.73m

Ratings are full-slot averages
Roscoe Barnes
17-03-2013
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Friday 15th March soap ratings (exc +1):

17:30- Neighbours: 876k
18:00- Home and Away: 759k
18:30- Hollyoaks: 955k
19:00- Emmerdale: 6.31m
19:30- Coronation Street: 7.62m
20:30- Coronation Street: 6.73m

Ratings are full-slot averages”

Thanks rzt. Corrie held up much better than I thought it would. The tape-checked figures will push the second episode over 7m.
rzt
17-03-2013
Originally Posted by Roscoe Barnes:
“Thanks rzt. Corrie held up much better than I thought it would. The tape-checked figures will push the second episode over 7m.”

Tape-checked rating for the second episode was 7.22m
Brekkie
17-03-2013
Originally Posted by Steve Williams:
“And of course Wrexham are on course for a fantastic league and cup double, the first half of which will be secured at Wembley next week. As the world knows.”

Anyone know who has the live rights to the FA Trophy final - S4C have picked up highlights but said they couldn't get the live rights as deals were already in place, but it doesn't seem to be on any of the main sport chanenls or Premier Sports.


Talking sport a bit further afield, the top 5 events of 2012 across Europe, plus top rated Euro 2012 match, from the Sportel Briefing:

Quote:
“France top 5 most-watched sports events in 2012, excluding Euro 2012 matches
Rank Event Date Channel 000s Shr %
1 Olympics: Day 9 incl athletics Sun 5/8 France 2 9,335 53.9
2 Olympics: Opening Ceremony Fri 27/7 TF1 8,845 57.1
3 Olympics: Day 13 incl athletics Thu 9/8 France 3 8,837 40.9
4 Ftbll: World Cup, qlfy, Spain v France Tue 16/10 TF1 8,601 32.7
5 Olympics: Day 3 incl swimming Tue 30/7 France 2 8,255 38.3
Note:The most-watched match from Euro 2012 was the Spain-Italy final, with 12.920m viewers
Source: Eurodata TV / Mediamat - Mediametrie

Germany top 5 most-watched sports events in 2012, excluding Euro 2012 matches
Rank Event Date Channel 000s Shr %
1 Ftbll: Uefa Champions League fnl, Bayern Munich v Chelsea Sat 19/5 Sat.1 16,786 55.0
2 Ftbll: DFB Cup fnl, Dortmund v Bayern Munich Sat 12/5 ZDF 13,636 44.0
3 Ftbll: World Cup, qlfy, Germany v Sweden Tue 16/10 ARD 13,209 40.9
4 Boxing: Vitali Klitschko v Dereck Chisora Sat 18/02 RTL 12,922 56.5
5 Ftbll: Uefa Champions League, s-f, Real Madrid v Bayern Munich Wed 25/4 Sat.1 12,650 41.9
Note: The most-watched match from Euro 2012 was the Germany-Italy semi-final, with 27.991m viewers on ARD
Source: Eurodata TV / AGF / GfK fernsehforschung

Italy top 5 most-watched sports events in 2012, excluding Euro 2012 matches
Rank Event Date Channel 000s Shr %
1 Ftbll: Coppa Italia fnl, Juventus v Napoli Sun 20/5 Rai 1 11,587 42.4
2 Ftbll: World Cup, qlfy, Italy v Denmark Tue 16/10 Rai 1 10,496 35.3
3 Ftbll: Uefa Champions League, q-f, Milan v Barcelona Wed 28/3 Rai 1 9,537 31.3
4 Ftbll: Coppa Italia, s-f, Milan v Juventus Wed 8/2 Rai 1 9,328 29.4
5 Formula One: Abu Dhabi GP Sun 4/11 Rai 1 8,858 42.4
Note:The most-watched match from Euro 2012 was the Germany-Italy semi-final, with 20.003m viewers on Rai 1.
Source: Eurodata TV / Auditel / Nielsen TV Audience Measurement

Russia top 5 most-watched sports events in 2012, excluding Euro 2012 matches
Rank Event Date Channel 000s Shr %
1 Ice Hockey: Wld Chmp fnl, Russia v Slovakia Sun 20/5 Pervy Kanal 5,800 28.1
2 Ftbll: World Cup, qlfy, Russia v Portugal Fri 12/10 Russia 1 3,803 17.5
3 Ftbll: Uefa Champions League, last 16, CSKA Moscow v Real Madrid Tue 21/2 NTV 3,658 15.1
4 Ftbll: World Cup, qlfy, Russia v Azerbaijan Tue 16/10 Russia 1 3,449 15.4
5 Ftbll: Uefa Champions League, grp stg,
Zenit St Petersburg v Anderlecht
Wed 24/10 NTV 3,223 13.4
Note: The most-watched match from Euro 2012 was Poland v Russia, with 8.089m viewers
Source: Eurodata TV / TNS Gallup Media

Spain top 5 most-watched sports events in 2012, excluding Euro 2012 matches
Rank Event Date Channel 000s Shr %
1 Ftbll: Uefa Champions League, s-f, Barcelona v Chelsea Tue 24/4 La 1 11,271 55.8
2 Ftbll: Uefa Champions League, s-f, Bayern Munich v Real Madrid Tue 17/4 La 1 10,165 51.6
3 Ftbll: Spanish Super Cup, Real Madrid v Barcelona Wed 29/8 La 1 9,098 53.4
4 Ftbll: World Cup, qlfy, Spain v France Tue 16/10 La 1 8,983 44.1
5 Ftbll: Uefa Champions League, q-f, Barcelona v Milan Tue 3/4 La 1 8,443 46.7
Note: The most-watched match from Euro 2012 was the Spain-Italy fi nal, with 15.481m viewers.
Source: Eurodata TV / Kantar Media Spain

UK top 5 most-watched sports events in 2012, excluding Euro 2012 matches
Rank Event Date Channel 000s Shr %
1 Olympics: Closing Ceremony Sun 12/8 BBC1+HD/3D 24,552 79
2 Olympics: Opening Ceremony Fri 27/7 BBC1+HD/3D 24,359 81.2
3 Olympics: Day 9 incl athletics Sun 5/8 BBC1+HD 13,107 48.9
4 Tennis: Wimbledon, mn’s fnl, Federer v Murray Sun 8/7 BBC1+HD 11,516 57.4
5 Olympics, Day 8, incl cycling and athletics Sat 4/8 BBC1+HD 10,864 47
Note: The most-watched match from Euro 2012 was the England-Italy quarter-final, with 20.004m viewers.
Source: SportBusiness Intelligence, BARB, Attentional”

Sportel Briefing
Steve Williams
17-03-2013
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“Anyone know who has the live rights to the FA Trophy final - S4C have picked up highlights but said they couldn't get the live rights as deals were already in place, but it doesn't seem to be on any of the main sport chanenls or Premier Sports.”

I think it might have been on Premier Sports before but they're a shambles of the channel. You'd assume it would come with the FA contract and certainly it used to be on Sky, and was on Setanta for the year they had it.

Ace though Wrexham are, it's unlikely to be a major draw. And I'll be there so I don't care.
seansnotmyname@
17-03-2013
So, I think we can all agree, Pointless the ratings story of the night

It was the only thing I watched on a main channel anyway.
C14E
17-03-2013
Originally Posted by retroguy:
“On the subject of the possible late night talk show changes next year

If Leno does retire from presenting The Tonight Show after next year to be replaced by Jimmy Fallon who do you think would win every night in the ratings battle that would follow”

Leno might not be going. Judging by recent reports it might just be internal politics. Bob Greenblatt complained about the way Leno took the pi*s out of NBC's 5th place Sweeps finish and they had a bit of a disagreement. How better to put him in his place than leak stories that he might get "retired".

At this point, I think NBC might just keep things as they are. There's no reason Fallon will do any better than Conan and no doubt Leno would come back again! As it stands, they are at least competitive in late night even if the gap is a lot closer than it used to be. Having screwed up mornings and with primetime crashing to lows, they could find other things to worry about before late night.
Glenn A
17-03-2013
Originally Posted by garyessex:
“They seem uite reliant on it on ITV2 aswell”

It's such a cheap show, it doesn't surprise me. Mind you in the Beadle days it was pulling in 16 million viewers, but a slump in the late nineties./ early noughties saw the show rejigged with the studio audience and a live presenter replaced by Harry Hill narrating.
Chris1964
17-03-2013
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“Look forward to seeing the breakdown of the figures in Wales later this week.

And that France figure just shows how stupid the Six Nations are to allocate the times of the final day matches before the tournament even begins. If they'd waited till the end of Round 3 and then switched the last two games around I'm sure both would have rated higher. (That said it wasn't just about timing, it was always baffling how they put the defending champions vs one of the obvious favourite in the middle slot!)
P.S. In non-rating news looks like we should definately be spared Mel B on The X Factor this year - as well as joining America's Got Talent she'll also be a judge on Australia's Got Talent. They've only just begun the producer auditions so presumably that won't air until the autumn.”

Agreed.
Glenn A
17-03-2013
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Friday 15th March soap ratings (exc +1):

13:45- Doctors: 1.56m
13:45- Neighbours: 633k
17:30- Neighbours: 876k
18:00- Home and Away: 759k
18:30- Hollyoaks: 955k
19:00- Emmerdale: 6.31m
19:30- Coronation Street: 7.62m
20:30- Coronation Street: 6.73m

Ratings are full-slot averages”

Surprised someone hasn't come out with the inevitable Corrie in crisis yet. Actually against tough competition these ratings are very good and has been pointed out before, the soap has a hardcore of 6 million who would watch regardless.
andrewskatie143
17-03-2013
wow- 4.88m for a REPEAT of mrs brown's boys on a saturday night . That show is just phenomenal. It does show that critical reception does not make or break sucess. It gets some of the worst critical reception ever for a show but its ratings just keep going through the roof. I will admit though, unlike for dramas, it can be notoriously difficult to predict ratings for a comedy- it either works or not. Sometimes a comedy can get the best reviews ever but its just doesn't appeal to large audiences.
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