Just out of interest, what kinda ratings did Jonathan Ross used to get for his former BBC1 chat show? Be nice to see what difference there is.
The Ratings Thread (Part 46)
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Originally Posted by cld92:
“Just out of interest, what kinda ratings did Jonathan Ross used to get for his former BBC1 chat show? Be nice to see what difference there is.”
“Just out of interest, what kinda ratings did Jonathan Ross used to get for his former BBC1 chat show? Be nice to see what difference there is.”
About 4 million in a worse slot.
Everytime someone posts the demographics analysis, Jonathan Ross is up near the top of the lucrative demos, yet this is forgotten every Sunday when Ross's audience is discussed as being poor.
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“About 4 million in a worse slot.”
“About 4 million in a worse slot.”
Though Ross has much tougher opposition in his home than on BBC One.
The show is far too rushed IMO. They should cut out a guest and give them more time each.
Changing the subject - I think tonight's ratings will show why Dancing on Ice won't be axed quite yet.
I'm quite excited to watch The Queen. I think it will rate very well due to last years Jubilee. I expect 5 million.
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“I think tonight's ratings will show why Dancing on Ice won't be axed quite yet.”
“I think tonight's ratings will show why Dancing on Ice won't be axed quite yet.”
I really haven't got a clue how the Queen doc will rate. I guessed 8.2m in the RPG; the average prediction was 5.3m. I'm rooting for ITV tonight which leaves me quite conflicted!
Last time Itv showed documentaries featuring the Queen was last year when only 3million-3.5million watched the Queens Horses Pageant and The Queen and I. I think it will be a good evening for bbc1 ratings tonight.
Originally Posted by cld92:
“I'm quite excited to watch The Queen. I think it will rate very well due to last years Jubilee. I expect 5 million.”
“I'm quite excited to watch The Queen. I think it will rate very well due to last years Jubilee. I expect 5 million.”
If The Queen's Speech can get 6m at 3pm, for a documentary it should manage a bit more.
Around 4-5 million for the Queen doc tonight I feel
Hopefully over 5 for TLV on BBC 1...
Legally Blonde will post a good figure for 5 ( over 1 . 5 million ? ) ... perhaps even beating Salt?
Hopefully over 5 for TLV on BBC 1...
Legally Blonde will post a good figure for 5 ( over 1 . 5 million ? ) ... perhaps even beating Salt?
Some interesting predictions for the Queen doc.
I have to say it doesn't have the same "feel" as the BBC royal docs have, it's a bit like a primetime This Morning special, rather than something having the majesty and grandeur of the BBC1 documentaries.
But, it is fascinating too.
The 1969 feature length doc got 21m
The 1992 feature length doc got 19m
I am not going to be silly and suggest that this ITV doc is going to scale those heights. But, frankly, come on - 4m? 5m?
I won't over-egg it - this should get at least 10-12m, at least in the officials.
Surely?
I have to say it doesn't have the same "feel" as the BBC royal docs have, it's a bit like a primetime This Morning special, rather than something having the majesty and grandeur of the BBC1 documentaries.
But, it is fascinating too.
The 1969 feature length doc got 21m
The 1992 feature length doc got 19m
I am not going to be silly and suggest that this ITV doc is going to scale those heights. But, frankly, come on - 4m? 5m?
I won't over-egg it - this should get at least 10-12m, at least in the officials.
Surely?
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“I don't know why people keep suggesting moving such-and-such a drama to Saturday nights as part of a fantasy BBC1 schedule. We all know that BBC1 Saturday night drama is restricted to Dr Who, Atlantis (replacing Merlin) and Casualty.
They've decided Casualty for Saturdays at 9pm and only Casualty and they're never going to bravely try a different drama out there. I bet even Jonathan Creek's 3-part series won't get that slot despite having played there in the past.
BBC1 is a very lazy channel in that respect. Worth another
, I think.”
“I don't know why people keep suggesting moving such-and-such a drama to Saturday nights as part of a fantasy BBC1 schedule. We all know that BBC1 Saturday night drama is restricted to Dr Who, Atlantis (replacing Merlin) and Casualty.
They've decided Casualty for Saturdays at 9pm and only Casualty and they're never going to bravely try a different drama out there. I bet even Jonathan Creek's 3-part series won't get that slot despite having played there in the past.
BBC1 is a very lazy channel in that respect. Worth another
, I think.”
I miss there being a post watershed Saturday night drama on BBC1 after Casualty. They used to have Casualty at 8pmish with a drama on at 9... I loved watching Jonathan Creek and Murder in Mind which played out in that slot. I hope the new 3 part series of Creek plays out at Saturday 9pm, but I think you're right. I thought Ripper Street would have been a good fit for the Saturday 9pm slot.
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“Oh I know it's never going to happen but I can fantasise about it, hence the schedule.
It is stupid; Casualty holds them back on a Saturday night instead of aid them now and they really should look to refresh it.
I agree; another is required.”
“Oh I know it's never going to happen but I can fantasise about it, hence the schedule.
It is stupid; Casualty holds them back on a Saturday night instead of aid them now and they really should look to refresh it.
I agree; another
is required.”
I'd love for Casualty to be cut down to 24 episodes a year, and for it to return to its gritty roots. There's no build up to any of the accidents anymore! I've been rewatching Casualty on Really and it makes me yearn for the good old days of Casualty.
For tonight, I get the feeling that the Queen documentary will flop and get about 3m. I think King Kong and Lewis over on ITV2 and ITV3 will get some good figures of 1m+.
Originally Posted by T Penery:
“He did tweet last night it saying.
#PointlessCelebrities on in 5 minutes on BBC1! Up against 'Sat Night Takeaway'. That should make for some, umm, 'interesting' ratings.
You could tell he wasn't expecting a repeat to do wonderful things against Ant & Dec,”
“He did tweet last night it saying.
#PointlessCelebrities on in 5 minutes on BBC1! Up against 'Sat Night Takeaway'. That should make for some, umm, 'interesting' ratings.
You could tell he wasn't expecting a repeat to do wonderful things against Ant & Dec,”
And yet it was only 2.2m behind the first run Ant and Dec's House Party.
I'd love to know how the 7pm BBC1 news rated. Could it possibly have run A&D close?
Do we have a breakdown for Comic Relief yet?
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“But NeilVW, jda135 already said his ratings excluded +1:
Both snt ratings are the same, but Cube and jonathan ross are different. So which ones are real?”
“But NeilVW, jda135 already said his ratings excluded +1:
Both snt ratings are the same, but Cube and jonathan ross are different. So which ones are real?”
Originally Posted by NeilVW:
“Assuming the DS numbers are accurate, here's what I think happened:
The Cube
jda135's rating: 4.06m (17.5%) exc +1
DS's rating: 3.78m (16.3%), +1: 286k
The programme was scheduled to run from 20:20 - 21:20, and in fact (according to Attentional) ran from 20:22 - 21:20, so there should have been no tape-checking adjustment needed. So I think the 4.06m (17.5%) is +1-included, particularly given that 3.78m (if rounded from, say, 3.776m) + 286k = 4.06m.
The Jonathan Ross Show
jda135's rating: 2.81m (13.3%) exc +1
DS's rating: 2.63m (12.3%), +1: 265k [so about 2.90m inc +1]
The programme was scheduled to run from 21:20 - 22:20, but actually ran from 21:23 - 22:28 (running quite late for some reason), so the DS rating should in theory be tape-checked to 21:25 - 22:30. That would include the couple of minutes after Ross finished, and exclude the period 21:20 - 21:25 (probably relatively high-rated, despite the break), which would explain the lower rating when tape-checked.”
“Assuming the DS numbers are accurate, here's what I think happened:
The Cube
jda135's rating: 4.06m (17.5%) exc +1
DS's rating: 3.78m (16.3%), +1: 286k
The programme was scheduled to run from 20:20 - 21:20, and in fact (according to Attentional) ran from 20:22 - 21:20, so there should have been no tape-checking adjustment needed. So I think the 4.06m (17.5%) is +1-included, particularly given that 3.78m (if rounded from, say, 3.776m) + 286k = 4.06m.
The Jonathan Ross Show
jda135's rating: 2.81m (13.3%) exc +1
DS's rating: 2.63m (12.3%), +1: 265k [so about 2.90m inc +1]
The programme was scheduled to run from 21:20 - 22:20, but actually ran from 21:23 - 22:28 (running quite late for some reason), so the DS rating should in theory be tape-checked to 21:25 - 22:30. That would include the couple of minutes after Ross finished, and exclude the period 21:20 - 21:25 (probably relatively high-rated, despite the break), which would explain the lower rating when tape-checked.”
My numbers are real. I have access and here are the exact numbers I have from the given slots;
The Cube - 4,064,058 (17.46%)
Jonathan Ross Show - 2,813,662 (13.34%)
Both do not include +1!
These numbers are tape-checked. I have no idea where DS get their numbers from, but they are wrong.
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Some interesting predictions for the Queen doc.
I have to say it doesn't have the same "feel" as the BBC royal docs have, it's a bit like a primetime This Morning special, rather than something having the majesty and grandeur of the BBC1 documentaries.
But, it is fascinating too.
The 1969 feature length doc got 21m
The 1992 feature length doc got 19m
I am not going to be silly and suggest that this ITV doc is going to scale those heights. But, frankly, come on - 4m? 5m?
I won't over-egg it - this should get at least 10-12m, at least in the officials.
Surely?”
“Some interesting predictions for the Queen doc.
I have to say it doesn't have the same "feel" as the BBC royal docs have, it's a bit like a primetime This Morning special, rather than something having the majesty and grandeur of the BBC1 documentaries.
But, it is fascinating too.
The 1969 feature length doc got 21m
The 1992 feature length doc got 19m
I am not going to be silly and suggest that this ITV doc is going to scale those heights. But, frankly, come on - 4m? 5m?
I won't over-egg it - this should get at least 10-12m, at least in the officials.
Surely?”
Neil VW said he predicted 8.2m in the RPG. I get the feeling that that was the figure ITV were thinking about when they got the chance to make this programme, but that their enthusiasm and expectation for it has waned as time has gone by.
It's probably just me but it just feels that this hasn't had an exceptional amount of promotion and that it's been scheduled on a random Sunday.Hard to tell how it'll do. It is behind the scenes with the Queen but the Royal Family don't have the same mystique they had in the past. William At 30 on ITV last June got about 6m in a Thursday night slot
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“About 4 million in a worse slot.”
“About 4 million in a worse slot.”
More like 3 million by his last year to be fair.
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Some interesting predictions for the Queen doc.
I have to say it doesn't have the same "feel" as the BBC royal docs have, it's a bit like a primetime This Morning special, rather than something having the majesty and grandeur of the BBC1 documentaries.
But, it is fascinating too.
The 1969 feature length doc got 21m
The 1992 feature length doc got 19m
I am not going to be silly and suggest that this ITV doc is going to scale those heights. But, frankly, come on - 4m? 5m?
I won't over-egg it - this should get at least 10-12m, at least in the officials.
Surely?”
“Some interesting predictions for the Queen doc.
I have to say it doesn't have the same "feel" as the BBC royal docs have, it's a bit like a primetime This Morning special, rather than something having the majesty and grandeur of the BBC1 documentaries.
But, it is fascinating too.
The 1969 feature length doc got 21m
The 1992 feature length doc got 19m
I am not going to be silly and suggest that this ITV doc is going to scale those heights. But, frankly, come on - 4m? 5m?
I won't over-egg it - this should get at least 10-12m, at least in the officials.
Surely?”
10-12m?!
It'll be lucky to get half that.
Originally Posted by jda135:
“My numbers are real. I have access and here are the exact numbers I have from the given slots;
The Cube - 4,064,058 (17.46%)
Jonathan Ross Show - 2,813,662 (13.34%)
Both do not include +1!
These numbers are tape-checked. I have no idea where DS get their numbers from, but they are wrong.”
“My numbers are real. I have access and here are the exact numbers I have from the given slots;
The Cube - 4,064,058 (17.46%)
Jonathan Ross Show - 2,813,662 (13.34%)
Both do not include +1!
These numbers are tape-checked. I have no idea where DS get their numbers from, but they are wrong.”
Thank you jda135. Mustve been an error from digitalspy.
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Some interesting predictions for the Queen doc.
I have to say it doesn't have the same "feel" as the BBC royal docs have, it's a bit like a primetime This Morning special, rather than something having the majesty and grandeur of the BBC1 documentaries.
But, it is fascinating too.
The 1969 feature length doc got 21m
The 1992 feature length doc got 19m
I am not going to be silly and suggest that this ITV doc is going to scale those heights. But, frankly, come on - 4m? 5m?
I won't over-egg it - this should get at least 10-12m, at least in the officials.
Surely?”
“Some interesting predictions for the Queen doc.
I have to say it doesn't have the same "feel" as the BBC royal docs have, it's a bit like a primetime This Morning special, rather than something having the majesty and grandeur of the BBC1 documentaries.
But, it is fascinating too.
The 1969 feature length doc got 21m
The 1992 feature length doc got 19m
I am not going to be silly and suggest that this ITV doc is going to scale those heights. But, frankly, come on - 4m? 5m?
I won't over-egg it - this should get at least 10-12m, at least in the officials.
Surely?”
The BBC's most recent royal doc, The Diamond Queen, rated at about 6-7m last February. I'm sure you're about to give us several great reasons why this is going to manage double that.
Originally Posted by jda135:
“My numbers are real. I have access and here are the exact numbers I have from the given slots;
The Cube - 4,064,058 (17.46%)
Jonathan Ross Show - 2,813,662 (13.34%)
Both do not include +1!
These numbers are tape-checked. I have no idea where DS get their numbers from, but they are wrong.”
“My numbers are real. I have access and here are the exact numbers I have from the given slots;
The Cube - 4,064,058 (17.46%)
Jonathan Ross Show - 2,813,662 (13.34%)
Both do not include +1!
These numbers are tape-checked. I have no idea where DS get their numbers from, but they are wrong.”
DS get their numbers from Attentional but they've clearly made an error somewhere. Possibly they excluded HD for The Cube and Jonathan Ross. I also notice that Paul Millar states Jonathan Ross started at 21:30, when it didn't. Ratings article dashed off quickly as it's a Sunday, perhaps?
Thank you for clarifying.
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“10-12m?! It'll be lucky to get half that.”
“10-12m?!
It'll be lucky to get half that.”
Originally Posted by sn_22:
“
The BBC's most recent royal doc, The Diamond Queen, rated at about 6-7m last February. I'm sure you're about to give us several great reasons why this is going to manage double that.”
“
The BBC's most recent royal doc, The Diamond Queen, rated at about 6-7m last February. I'm sure you're about to give us several great reasons why this is going to manage double that.
”
This was not another Marr documentary featuring stock footage of the Queen. It's an exclusive behind the scenes film. And these 2 hour warts and all films are once a 20 year happenings.
The last 2 got 19-20m each.
I'm being very fair suggesting only half that.
I do think some people will be surprised tomorrow morning.
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Some interesting predictions for the Queen doc.
I have to say it doesn't have the same "feel" as the BBC royal docs have, it's a bit like a primetime This Morning special, rather than something having the majesty and grandeur of the BBC1 documentaries.”
“Some interesting predictions for the Queen doc.
I have to say it doesn't have the same "feel" as the BBC royal docs have, it's a bit like a primetime This Morning special, rather than something having the majesty and grandeur of the BBC1 documentaries.”
No doubt you'd already decided on that viewpoint before it started though?
Everything on ITV is either declared a flop or only a success because of weak competition, in this thread thesedays there is very little point debating otherwise.
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“This was not another Marr documentary featuring stock footage of the Queen. It's an exclusive behind the scenes film. And these 2 hour warts and all films are once a 20 year happenings.
The last 2 got 19-20m each.
I'm being very fair suggesting only half that.
I do think some people will be surprised tomorrow morning.”
“This was not another Marr documentary featuring stock footage of the Queen. It's an exclusive behind the scenes film. And these 2 hour warts and all films are once a 20 year happenings.
The last 2 got 19-20m each.
I'm being very fair suggesting only half that.
I do think some people will be surprised tomorrow morning.”
You being one of them - unless you are just building up expectations just so you can shoot the rating down as per normal.
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“This was not another Marr documentary featuring stock footage of the Queen. It's an exclusive behind the scenes film. And these 2 hour warts and all films are once a 20 year happenings.
The last 2 got 19-20m each.
I'm being very fair suggesting only half that.
I do think some people will be surprised tomorrow morning.”
“This was not another Marr documentary featuring stock footage of the Queen. It's an exclusive behind the scenes film. And these 2 hour warts and all films are once a 20 year happenings.
The last 2 got 19-20m each.
I'm being very fair suggesting only half that.
I do think some people will be surprised tomorrow morning.”
You are just setting yourself up tomorrow so you can state how poorly it rated.
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