Yes they all have lull's but not like eastenders at the moment... it keeps on having lull's and its because it doesnt have characters that people love because they never stay long enough!!

They have Ian, Dot and Phil from early days and Sharon who's in it then out of it more then i have hot meals....

Other than that your looking at 2006 arrivals as long serving characters and 6/7 years just isnt long enough on a show thats been going 28 years!

With the exception of the storyline surrounding Den's murder in 2005 and the last six months of 2007, EastEnders has been going through a bad period since 2003.

I think you wil find that corri has normally been top soap most of the time not just at this moment. Plus don't want to be a smart ass or nothing but the reason ED won fri was because EE was against an England match. So your post made me lol to

And most eastenders fans watch football.... LOL

Im a corrie fan but look through the history books.... EE ratings are usually on a par with Corrie.... In recent times Corrie has thrashed EE....

The gang storyline is horrible and Emmerdale has always behind EE and Corrie, so I don't see your point.

Why do you feel the need to stick up for it as if a slight against the show is a slight against you?

Yes, the gang storyline is horrid. The way it came about was dire. Now if Dot had been the victim of gangs and the arrival of the gang had been gradual and favourite characters were genuinely affected by it, then I can see a purpose of it. But they just appeared one day and terrorised Tamwar. As a result Massood had turned into an idiotic buffoon and Liam has become some vigilante outlaw all happening in a space of a few episodes. EastEnders has lost its way. At the moment its pretty unwatchable and the cast just look like they're going through the motions.

What is this nonsense? These are soaps. They are the dictionary definition of mass-produced trash TV. All of them are on par with Lidl.

I enjoy soaps sometimes as much as the next person, but putting something as dreadful as Coronation Street on such a high pedestal is embarrassing.

Hollyoaks continues to outperform Corrie in quality, and it doesn't require a spike in ratings to suddenly deserve praise!

The thing is...it seems to be a never ending bad period.

Surely the problems are with the BBC?

Death In Paradise settled around the 6m mark in the overnights and around 7.5m in the officials, so still a good million (more in the officials) below Broadchurch.

Also that was series 2 of DIP. I said 'new drama' ie. first series.

To b fair I could say the the same to you as you constantly slag EE off even when it is actually good.

Great rating for a debut of a digital comedy - I think Inbetweeners itself only launched around the 300k mark IIRC. Wasn't too bad a show either - did exactly what it said on the tin.

My original post above may provide interesting reading for you. Death in Paradise often had a 4 million rating footie match to compete with, and when Mayday was shown the first episode of Broadchurch was significantly lower.

I've been a fan of EE since I was 11 and believe me, seeing it being trashed around by fans and well respected TV lovers makes me sad. Its not good at the moment, and I agree that if the BBC continue to neglect it, it will do damage to the corporation and the channel in the long run.

Newman needs to go. Bring back Tony McHale as Executive Producer as well as some classic writers as well as ones that can write decent material and deliver a solid script.

Totally agree. Cannot understand Newman's promotion as it was clear she was part of the production team that were heavily ctiticised during their tenure with the show and nothing was going to change by putting her in charge. There are no real gritty storylines and plots are simply meandering forwards. Last night a lot of the episode was taken up by the terrible Gang storyline and the nonsense of a lost property auction.Childrens television would have provided more fruitful drama.

Perhaps the last couple of pages should have a 'cut and paste' into the soap forum...

See your point but as EastEnders' ratings are gradually declining it is worthy to have the subject discussed in the ratings thread.

Yes. The lost property auction. Unless it's going to lead into something brilliant (which I doubt) what the hell was the point?

Will we see a shake up at BBC One soon? With the Eastenders ratings going down

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Let me guess...its celeb nonsense instead of us plebs participating

Broadchurch episode 3 timeshifted to 9.6 million, including +1: https://twitter.com/ChrisChibnall/st...43356245258240

The article states there is one celeb edition in the nine part series.

I wonder if they will be lazy and just watch old tapes for ideas, instead of thinking up new catchphrases and pictures?

Talking of celebs, C4 are using the post-Grand National slot to launch Davina McCalls new show Five Minutes to a Fortune, which will air celeb specials at the weekend and daily regular people editions at 5pm on weekdays. It doesn't escape the daytime competition at the weekend either - it launches head to head with Pointless and clashes with the end of a repeat of The Chase.

Bothers Bar have reviewed it quite favourably but it's arguably airing in the toughest slot in television at the moment. Endemol are also beginning to sell hit Italian format "Next One Forward" around the world so be interesting to see where that lands - ITV or C4 probably the favourites depending on whether Endemol are looking towards primetime or daytime. It would be worth a try in the Deal or No Deal slot really and it could work for daytime with a fairly large jackpot as it's "21 Questions wrong" end game is difficult to beat.

That is a tough slot to launch in. I fear with the aforementioned seven days a week slot, this, like McCall's predecessor show The Million Pound Drop Live could go into overkill and lose viewers in the process. It was something like ten series of TMPDL in total! I mean...in two years?

I hope it starts off with atleast a million though, and although I don't know the format of the show, I can sort of take a few things from the title. Good luck to the show I say, and I am actually looking forward to it for other reasons, such as: The Chase and Pointless bore me to death now.