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I've been trying to start another Twitter war between Piers and Sugar:
.... but nothing doing - so far... ![]() still dont know the difference between watched live and figures included in overnights.
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Hope both Saturday Night Takeaway and Let's Dance rate well, both proper, fun, light entertainment shows that you don't get often anymore.
Expect And and Dec to edge it. |
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They are overnights.
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Cut to the chase and just pre write your posts now. The rating was BAD news for itv, itv will be worried, are Ant & Dec's careers over etc etc.
6-7m would be good 5-6m would be a bit disappointment considering what they've acheived before. under 5m would be unthinkable even with "Let's Dance with a rugby lead-in" as opposition. |
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Theres a dead rubber Six nations tie in 3 weeks time in peak time between France and Scotland. BBC needs to put this on BBC Two instead of BBC One. If they put it on BBC one, they will be gifting Ant & Dec a lot more viewers just like how last week's bad rating FA Cup game gifted Lets Dance lots of viewers.
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A check quick on BARB reveals SNT added about 400,000 / 500,000 on timeshift
As D.M.N. said, it's starting 45 mins earlier so the ratings will naturally be lower (all else being equal, e.g. competition). |
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Theres a dead rubber Six nations tie in 3 weeks time in peak time between France and Scotland. BBC needs to put this on BBC Two instead of BBC One. If they put it on BBC one, they will be gifting Ant & Dec a lot more viewers just like how last week's bad rating FA Cup game gifted Lets Dance lots of viewers.
Of course, Let's Dance can still attract the viewers against SNT.
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Looking at that competition back in 2009: Quote:
Ant and Dec's Saturday Night Takeaway - 2009 Ratings
14/02 - 7.33m (31.7%) vs In It to Win It, Casualty 21/02 - 6.39m (27.4%) vs Let's Dance, Lottery Draws, Casualty 28/02 - 5.81m (25.4%) vs Let's Dance, Lottery Draws, Casualty 07/03 - 6.53m (27.8%) vs Let's Dance, Lottery Draws, Casualty 14/03 - 5.17m (22.7%) vs Let's Dance, Lottery Draws, Casualty 21/03 - 6.03m (26.8%) vs Total Wipeout, Lottery Draws, Casualty |
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Is that a bad thing? Not that I WANT BBC One to fail, just love SNT!
![]() 35 Days till Ant & Dec are being hammered by BBC1 again. Silence must fall when the question is asked.
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Theres a dead rubber Six nations tie in 3 weeks time in peak time between France and Scotland. BBC needs to put this on BBC Two instead of BBC One. If they put it on BBC one, they will be gifting Ant & Dec a lot more viewers just like how last week's bad rating FA Cup game gifted Lets Dance lots of viewers.
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35 Days.
35 Days till Ant & Dec are being hammered by BBC1 again. |
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Theres a dead rubber Six nations tie in 3 weeks time in peak time between France and Scotland. BBC needs to put this on BBC Two instead of BBC One. If they put it on BBC one, they will be gifting Ant & Dec a lot more viewers just like how last week's bad rating FA Cup game gifted Lets Dance lots of viewers.
Actually thanks to France dismal performance this season it's arguably now not quite so dead a rubber - it's probably the wooden spoon decider. I don't understand though why they can't wait until after this third weekend of games to decide the order of games on the final day - still gives them three weeks notice, as much as any FA Cup game, and the games will still happen on that day, so rearranging kick-off times isn't too much of a logistical nightmare. England v Wales now looks to be the Championship decider, though at half time during the Wales v Ireland game on Day 1 I never thought that would be the case. Quote:
Someone mentioned on the SNT thread about Sam & Mark doing a SNT-type show on BBC One. They already happen to do one (which is aimed at younger viewers) on the CBBC Channel.
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Wondered if bbc one would ever consider going in a complete different direction from itv and put politics into primetime. But use celebrity to make it more accesiable to youngsters. The fact that so many people vote for sunging competitions but dont actually vote is a shame. I guess the ten o clock show hasn't really worked for channel four but would there ever be a place for a more youthful question time on bbc one at 6.30 or 7. Where under 25's got to debate or even vote live on something about how they felt about unemployment etc. It would be edgy and away from what itv are doing completely. I think it would also gain support from politicians who want ypung voters and pop stars willing to appear on the show. Surely it couldn't rate any worse than animal antics! And be better for the kids than the horsemeat fast food of saturday night takeaway. Just awful
Id rather see the beeb stick the 22million that the voice cost into a show that maybe shows how they got really unmotivated unemployed youngsters and got celebs in to turn around some of their lives and follow that journey rather than a pale imitation of the x factor. The commercial channels can pay for that type of show. I think it would be nice to see the bbc do something a little bit more current and different to it rivals. |
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Evans or Morgan? Was forced to listen to Evans in the dentists yesterday. I was glad when the drilling started.
![]() My dentist is better. He has BBC One in the waiting room.
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Wondered if bbc one would ever consider going in a complete different direction from itv and put politics into primetime. But use celebrity to make it more accesiable to youngsters. The fact that so many people vote for sunging competitions but dont actually vote is a shame. I guess the ten o clock show hasn't really worked for channel four but would there ever be a place for a more youthful question time on bbc one at 6.30 or 7. Where under 25's got to debate or even vote live on something about how they felt about unemployment etc. It would be edgy and away from what itv are doing completely. I think it would also gain support from politicians who want ypung voters and pop stars willing to appear on the show. Surely it couldn't rate any worse than animal antics! And be better for the kids than the horsemeat fast food of saturday night takeaway. Just awful!
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This is kinda what im getting at samuel! Something that looks populist but actually has a lot more behind it. So many kids vote for the x factor and have massive amounts of opinions and debates and arguments about the people what they stand for. That surely could be converted into a more worthwhile and less commercial format. Maybe even cowell would help set it up I dunno if he should run it though he was very keen when kirsty wark interviewed him on newsnight to produce something on politics and this week dermot o leary has also mentioned his love of the subject and how he enjoyed presenting young peoples question time. Ill look at the german version why is bbc one not trying something like that rather than britians brighest etc. It seems odd they would spend millions on a commercial venture like the voice but not want to create their own new formula. Perhaps politics will not be popular enough
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Those were very different days.........
Very different and the BBC lost the 'MOTD' rights when it happened. Later on they held both but that was when the BBC was enjoying one of the biggest licence fee increases in their history and had no F1! BT is a game changer and I suspect the bidding will be well out of the BBC's league. But even that is extremely unlikely. |
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35 Days.
35 Days till Ant & Dec are being hammered by BBC1 again. Silence must fall when the question is asked. ![]() |
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Would have preferred to see them try something new/different.
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I've been hoping that for years, but I think Ant and Dec like their comfort blankets.
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Both Sam and Mark and Dick and Dom have shown it's not that easy to make the switch to grown up tele, though as discussed many times the numerous bridges to make that switch (like Saturday morning TV (which they've both done) and things like guest hosting TOTP) aren't there any more, making it even tougher. Sadly I suspect nowadays the best avenue for a childrens TV presenter to get a foot in the door of grown up TV is to sign up to a guest stint on some reality show. Going a bit off topic, Given the success of The Big Bang Theory, its surprising that none of the lead with maybe the exception of Kaley Cuoco has done any films, Jim Parsons has been doing theatre but considering the likes of Jason Segel, Cobie Smulders and Melissa McCarthy have done films all while doing their shows, I would thought the main cast would do films in their downtime. |
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EDIT; Oh I see it Lightfields not got a great preview in the Guardian. Viewers too may think "why bother watching the drama we watched a year ago remade with new cast in a new house"? Quote:
still dont know the difference between watched live and figures included in overnights.
Live viewing is people who watch a show as it goes out. Overnights measure live viewers plus those who made a conscious decision to record that very same transmission and watch a recording of it the same night before 2am. It's not rocket science, and the bit in bold is crucial. |
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From David Chater's Lightfields preview in The Times:
"A couple of years ago ITV broadcast the clunking, cliche-ridden and thoroughly unscary Marchlands...Now it has risen from the dead in a different incarnation. The basic idea remains...Something bad happens in the past and from that moment on everything goes bump in the night. Doors creak open, lights fuse, mirrors crack, voices whisper, eyes widen.... What is truly terrifying is why anyone wanted to revisit this hokum" Well, it don't get more damning than that! The ratings will be fascinating....
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Got an absolute slating in The Times too. In short, an utterly pointless remake a year on of a not very good in the first place drama. Begging the question of why?
Viewers too may think "why bother watching the drama we watched a year ago remade with new cast in a new house"? Well let me help you then. Live viewing is people who watch a show as it goes out. Overnights measure live viewers plus those who made a conscious decision to record that very same transmission and watch a recording of it the same night before 2am. It's not rocket science, and the bit in bold is crucial. |
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Thursday 21st February 2013
Soap clash
Spoiler
Emmerdale started very slowly and lost to the BBC One regional news, but by getting the jump on EastEnders it pushed the London soap below 5m during the clash. Look at how Emmerdale's audience soars by almost 2m at 19:00, and EastEnders recovers above 7m soon after Emmerdale is finished. Notice also the very poor audience for the football build-up (the kick-off was at 20:05).
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Takeaway was brilliant, I didn't enjoy the last couple of series but this was much improved. The reworked Undercovers was fantastic and it seems like they've got some of the old style ones coming up that look really good. Ant vs Dec incorporating the "What Happens Next?" feature was a good idea. The finale was excellent (granted, a bit predictable).
They chose their guests very well for the first show. David Walliams, Ashley Roberts, Robbie Williams and Louis Walsh. Just the four of them, all with a part to play and all "up for it". What a difference to the zelebs piling up on the last series. Ant & Dec themselves were great as usual. Some of the gags are pretty dire and visible from another galaxy but they always pull it off. Given previous ratings (remember, ratings in general for Saturday night on ITV1 have fallen since 2009) I think if it can post something comfortably into the 6's then it's a good start. But the show was so strong that there's reason for optimism whatever the number. |
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still dont know the difference between watched live and figures included in overnights.
Of course, Let's Dance can still attract the viewers against SNT.

