The Ratings Thread (Part 46)

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SamuelW

24-02-2013

Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“It looked grim for Let's Dance when the rugby finished at around 6.35. Whilst I commend BBC1 for not doing an ITV style 3 minutes of round up, it did kill the lead in. Well over 8m became more like 3-4m possibly.

Remarkable then that Let's Dance was still over 5m and only a million or so behind the much trailed Takeaway.

Of course just a few weeks ago 5m or so was enough to prompt ITVista back slapping over a new hit show. Is 5m the measure of a flop now??

Full breakdowns for both channels from half six to half eight would be fascinating.”

NeilVW said apparently rugby still had mid 5m rating leading into Lets dance. I think Lets Dance didnt flop but it normally gets more than 5m viewers. Lets dance is stale, all the best dances have been done, the production values arent that good, hosts are terrible and celebs involved are mainly z listers. Its past its sell by date just like Dancing on ice, XFactor, Apprentice and viewers are getting bored of it.

NeilVW

24-02-2013

As I posted earlier, the post-match chatter took the rating down from a peak of 8.43m at 18:35 to the mid-5s by the end.

Quote:
“Full breakdowns for both channels from half six to half eight would be fascinating.”

BBC One v ITV breakdown

Spoiler

KennyT

24-02-2013

Usual question for a Sunday morning...

Spiral?

TIA

K

Hassaan13

24-02-2013

Originally Posted by NeilVW:
“Rugby coverage finished at 19:02 so it ended within any accepted measure of primetime. ”

It had 4-5m by the end

NeilVW

24-02-2013

Originally Posted by KennyT:
“Usual question for a Sunday morning...

Spiral?

TIA

K”

BBC Four
21:00 - Spiral: 452k (2.05%)
21:50 - Spiral: 357k (1.8%)

GeorgeS

24-02-2013

Originally Posted by NeilVW:
“Further to previous answers, I suppose it depends on whether BBC One showings for all matches are guaranteed in the contract. If not, then I don't think fans or organisers would begrudge the BBC moving the France/Scotland match to BBC Two. It would be a bit of a damp-squib ending to the tournament to have it on BBC One IMO. But what would be on BBC One in its place?

Saturday 16th March 2013 - suggested schedule
BBC One
14:00 - Six Nations (Italy v Ireland, kick-off at 14:30)
16:20 - Six Nations (Wales v England, kick-off at 16:30)
19:00-22:00 - ????

BBC Two
19:30 - Six Nations (France v Scotland, kick-off at 20:00)

It's hard to think of anything they can pluck off the shelf that would be competitive against Takeaway.”

It would be a 2 fingers to the Scottish for starters and a massive write off of an expensive game in rights costs - £2.7m. Of course they have put rugby on Bbc2 before when the evening game was on a Friday night, but that was presumably back in the larger jacuzzi full of cash days and to prevent the soap methadone clinics having to open late for Eastender addicts.

Ads

24-02-2013

Originally Posted by NeilVW:
“BBC Four
21:00 - Spiral: 452k (2.05%)
21:50 - Spiral: 357k (1.8%)

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A fair bit lower than the Scandi shows then

KennyT

24-02-2013

Originally Posted by Ads:
“A fair bit lower than the Scandi shows then”

Yeah. But as I noted in the Spiral thread, it started a couple of years before the ratings for Euro-dramas took off with the first series of The Killing, so new converts to the genre wouldn't have been familiar with the characters in Spiral.

K

RobbieSykes123

24-02-2013

Originally Posted by Hassaan13:
“OK - how about the highest rating prime time show?”

No, because Let's Dance holds that honour from its rating last week - 6.7m.

KennyT

24-02-2013

Originally Posted by NeilVW:
“BBC Four
21:00 - Spiral: 452k (2.05%)
21:50 - Spiral: 357k (1.8%)

”

Mukky buckets!

K

SamuelW

24-02-2013

Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“It would be a 2 fingers to the Scottish for starters and a massive write off of an expensive game in rights costs - £2.7m. Of course they have put rugby on Bbc2 before when the evening game was on a Friday night, but that was presumably back in the larger jacuzzi full of cash days and to prevent the soap methadone clinics having to open late for Eastender addicts.”

But if BBC one shows that game, Ant and Dec will get over 7million and that's without +1. BBC can't let that happen with doctor who and the Voice launching soon afterwards. For the long term benefit of viewers and as a channel which should be educating, entertaining as many people as possible, it would be better to put rugby on bbc2 imo.

GeorgeS

24-02-2013

Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“No, because Let's Dance holds that honour from its rating last week - 6.7m.”

7.07 m beats that easily.

NeilVW

24-02-2013

Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“7.07 m beats that easily.”

Gents, I think you'll have to agree to disagree

GeorgeS

24-02-2013

Originally Posted by NeilVW:
“Gents, I think you'll have to agree to disagree ”

Yes forgot about the anorak rules applied here

Chris1964

24-02-2013

Originally Posted by NeilVW:
“Let's Dance: 5.05m (22.05%)
Takeaway: 6.46m (28.3%) exc +1

Great start for Ant n Dec. Well, pretty good anyway.”

What will be fascinating here is next weeks audience. The rating is 800,000 less than the 2009 starter (and 300,000 less if you like to add in +1). In 2009 it lost a million for the second show. Reaction would suggest an increase next week?

Lets Dance bombed in comparison to last week and probably deserves to. BBC Saturday nights are tired and do not create enthusiasm but do comfortably well because the opposition is generally poor.

RobbieSykes123

24-02-2013

The breakdown shows the rugby worked perfectly for Ant and Dec. Get over 8m in front of the telly, then watch them drift around as the rugger buggers start their chatter, landing on Takeaway as it starts. BBC1 was down to 4.9m by 7

And the filler 20 mins on Dance whilst viewers vote sent Takeaway ratings soaring. The peak came when Dance was filling time with karaoke in a pub. I kid you not !

It all worked perfectly for ITV last night

RobbieSykes123

24-02-2013

Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“7.07 m beats that easily.”

Let's Dance would have got over 7.07m last week had BBC1+1 existed....

Dancc

24-02-2013

Channel 5 crime dramas...

NCIS (rpt): 1.08m / 4.7%
NCIS (rpt #2): 1.11m / 5.0%
Law & Order S.V.U.: 1.12m / 5.4%
Law & Order Criminal Intent: 1.15m / 7.0%
CSI (rpt): 547k / 5.6%

Dancc

24-02-2013

5USA Saturday...

Battle of Britain: 374k (1.7%)
Full Metal Jacket: 227k (1.6%)

5* Saturday...

Home & Away Omnibus: 107k (0.9%)
Rush Hour 2: 252k (1.2%)

Score

24-02-2013

Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Let's Dance would have got over 7.07m last week had BBC1+1 existed.... ”

Probably wouldn't.

How boring, another +1 debate.

Anyway, that's a great start for Takeaway. It was a really good show too so I think it might hold around the 7m mark. Could possibly be a bit of a worry for The Voice when that returns and whoever it was that said that Doctor Who would be trouncing it appears to be quite wide of the mark.

Let's Dance was about where I expected it to be. It's still a solid audience, particularly against 7m on ITV, but it's slightly ironic that Let's Dance was the show that damaged the very tired last series of Takeaway back in 2009, and now 4 years on the revived Takeaway appears to have done damage to the rather tired Let's Dance. Swings and roundabouts...

Score

24-02-2013

A few demos from TVRatingsUK on Twitter (exc +1 where relevant):

16-34s
Takeaway: 1.35m (31%)
Let's Dance: 712k (17.9%)

65+
Takeaway: 932k (15.8%)
Let's Dance: 1.39m (23.6%)

Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“TMO 4.4m, Ross 3m, YBF 3.6m”

Are those including +1 George?

ronant

24-02-2013

Originally Posted by Score:
“Probably wouldn't.

How boring, another +1 debate. ”

Why are you debating it then?! Of course it would, if BBC One had a +1 it would comfortably be the most watched +1 there is, with ratings regularly over 500k. Let's Dance would probably of averaged around 7.20m.

Anyway BBC1 doesn't have one, so statements such as 'SNT is the most watched Saturday night programme of the year', are entirely invalid.

Scraggy Taters

24-02-2013

Did Casualty break the 5m mark last night ??

Dancc

24-02-2013

Originally Posted by ronant:
“Why are you debating it then?! Of course it would, if BBC One had a +1 it would comfortably be the most watched +1 there is, with ratings regularly over 500k. Let's Dance would probably of averaged around 7.20m.

Anyway BBC1 doesn't have one, so statements such as 'SNT is the most watched Saturday night programme of the year', are entirely invalid.”

Well no, it is (statistically) the most watched in the overnights.

NeilVW

24-02-2013

Originally Posted by Score:
“Are those including +1 George? ”

I think you know they are

exc/ inc +1
Totally YBF: 3.32m (15.4%) / 3.63m (16.8%)
TMO: 4.17m (18.8%) / 4.39m (19.8%)
Ross: 2.79m (14.3%) / 2.99m (15.3%)

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