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The Ratings Thread (Part 46)
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tim18
06-03-2013
How has geordie shore been doing?
grahamzxy
06-03-2013
Originally Posted by tim18:
“How has geordie shore been doing?”

Feb 19th 2013

Geordie Shore had 365k (2.1%) inc +1 overnight

But BARB official was 787k and 88k (+1)
Agent F
06-03-2013
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“As I've pointed out, Samuel, should this happen again next season, then Itv will really wonder if paying well over the odds for quarter of a tournament is worth it? No one, except a football anorak, would really want to watch two teams unless they came from Spain in the final. Also when a season ticket holder of 30 years told me last week, he's sold his ticket and others say they've drifted away, it makes you wonder now if football is going into a slump.”

Of course "Itv" (is this catching on then?) think it's worth it. They've been covering the tournament for many, many years. It won't be the first time a British team hasn't been in the final. It still attracts hard to reach viewers who would otherwise not watch the network which still makes them incredibly valuable to advertisers. I don't think there's a chance in hell they'd willingly let go of the rights
Yugimuto1
06-03-2013
Sorry, I made a big mistake about Storville, it was on on Monday, not Tuesday. Could you get the ratings for BBC4 for Monday please?
seansnotmyname@
06-03-2013
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“As I've pointed out, Samuel, should this happen again next season, then Itv will really wonder if paying well over the odds for quarter of a tournament is worth it? No one, except a football anorak, would really want to watch two teams unless they came from Spain in the final. Also when a season ticket holder of 30 years told me last week, he's sold his ticket and others say they've drifted away, it makes you wonder now if football is going into a slump.”

Makes you wonder if your mates are atypical, but luckily for you, your anecdotal evidence goes along with your anti-football sentiment you've been constantly showing.

Who sells a season ticket three quarters of a way through a season, not exactly going to get good money for it is he?
Steve Williams
06-03-2013
Originally Posted by NeilVW:
“I don't think there is any formal requirement; however I believe Ofcom/ITC got tetchy when the move to 23:00 resulted in drastically lower ratings, and leant on ITV to change it back. Steve Williams will know.”

Oh, will I? Er, I know they moved the news from 11pm because the ITC, as was, was expressing concern about the dropping ratings for ITV News, and it was definitely the ITC who used to demand the news started at 10pm in the nineties and before because there was that famous moment where they weren't allowed to show an extended episode of Cracker at 9pm on the Monday because it would mean the news starting after ten but were allowed to move the news to after ten two days later for football.

One reason they did that was I think that many of the regions put in their franchise submissions that they would show the news at 10pm so technically they would have breached their contracts. But Ofcom have no power over when ITV show the news these days, it's completely up to them when they show it. And even if it was up to Ofcom, a five minute or so delay wouldn't be an issue on a live programme.

What everyone forgets is that up until the mid-eighties, they didn't always do the News at Ten and if there was a big film or drama they wanted to show they would sometimes start the news at 9pm or 9.30 so they could run it uninterrupted. I've got some TV Times from the autumn of 1981 where they're showing films at 7.30 on Thursdays, followed by TV Eye at 9.30, but if the film was longer than two hours they'd just start TV Eye at 9.40 or 9.45 and the news would begin at 10.15.

Originally Posted by Joe40:
“Disappointed if it's true that The Lady Vanishes (the Keeley Hawes drama that was due on at Christmas) is now to be shown on March 17th. That's St Patrick's Night, the pub calls.”

It's also Sunday, so I doubt the pub will call for many. Is this another factor we have to bear in mind when compiling the ratings, like Halloween and Valentine's Day? Much like when you compile sports records and put "wind-assisted" after some of them, perhaps we should ask BARB to put "(but it was really cold that day)" in their reports.

Originally Posted by C14E:
“Channel 5 haven't got into it yet but I wonder if they might consider the right format for their evening schedule which desperately needs something decent to fill some hours at low cost.”

Certainly I can't remember a time when there's been so much quizzing on daytime TV, back to the days when ITV had quizzes at 9.25 and 2.50 every day and BBC1 had one at 1.50.

As for the football, this has happened before and it'll happen again. It's certainly no worse for ITV than in the mid-nineties - 1995/96 was the first season when ITV had to show a match from every round regardless of whether a British team was in it, and in those days the British representatives always crashed out early, so they had to show things like Ajax vs Panathinaikos on primetime ITV. And in those days there was far less interest in foreign football. It's not ideal for ITV but it'll pull in similar audiences to the usual Tuesday fare, and substantially better demographics.

And anyone who says people are getting bored of football is wrong, wrong, wrong. I seem to recall during the Olympics everyone said people were going to stop watching football because the athletes were so inspiring. And on Saturday...
12:15 - Football Focus: 1.32m (17.1%)
14:30 - LIVE Athletics - European Indoor Championships: 965k (10.0%)
16:30 - Final Score: 2.03m (15.6%)
22:25 - Match of the Day: 3.68m (25.7%)
kwynne42
06-03-2013
Originally Posted by Hassaan13:
“Thanks - though quite poor.”

Most of them will no doubt have been watching on Iplayer like they do with The Dumping ground.
kwynne42
06-03-2013
Originally Posted by johnnymc:
“I think its time panaroma was moved out of primetime to after the news at 10.35pm or after question time at 11.00. Couldn't bbc one experiment with comedy there in that slot.
”

The Daily Mail would have something to say about that.
GeorgeS
06-03-2013
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Factually incorrect?.”

Yes you said....

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Didn't even fit it into the main programme, the incompetent sods. And people wonder why ITV Sport gets such a bad rep. ”

So you were at the very least implying that itv had tape of an interview with Sir Alex before 10pm but because of "incompetence" did not broadcast it.

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“ I was merely expressing my disappointment at the lack of post-match comment from one of the teams involved, a pretty basic component to any football coverage.”

No again you were making the statement that it was itv's fault when it was not.

I appreciate you cannot admit you were wrong, but those are the facts.
kwynne42
06-03-2013
Originally Posted by Cent:
“ITV moved the news back to 10pm themselves, because it wasn't working at 10.30 and they had nothing interesting to show at 10pm. The only reason they try to keep it at 10pm was because when they used to move it about the press dubbed it 'News at When'.”

Some might say they still don't have anything interesting to show at 10pm.

Could say the same thing about the BBC news at 10pm who at the start hadn't noticed Hug Chavez had died while Sky News was leading with it, slow off the mark there BBC.
glorafin
06-03-2013
Does anyone have numbers for Pointless this week? I wonder whether the size of the jackpot has an influence on viewing figures.
SamuelW
06-03-2013
11million peak for yesterdays game
lewiep93
06-03-2013
@TVRatingsUK: RT @johnplunkett149: Man Utd's controversial 2-1 Champs Lge defeat to Real Madrid watched by peak of 10.7m viewers (39.8%), ave 9m, 35.2%.
garyessex
06-03-2013
Originally Posted by glorafin:
“Does anyone have numbers for Pointless this week? I wonder whether the size of the jackpot has an influence on viewing figures.”

i remember seeing a 3.6 against the chases 3.3 inc +1 one day this week
cylon6
06-03-2013
I hope This puts an end to the talk about football ratings being down on ITV. It's all about who is playing and not the coverage. That always determines ratings.
SamuelW
06-03-2013
When's the last time Itv got such a big rating on a Tuesday night? Bitter sweet for Itv though. If Manu could've won yesterday, Itv would've got a few more games getting big ratings. Now for the first time since 1996, no English teams will be in the quarters. Itv will still try to renew CL rights but BT could snatch away games from them.
GeorgeS
06-03-2013
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“I hope This puts an end to the talk about football ratings being down on ITV. It's all about who is playing and not the coverage. That always determines ratings.”

of course it wont. Last night all the post match comment was about what the pundits on itv said. This was even on BBC 5 Live, Sky Sports and Talksport even though they had their own pundits at the game
D.M.N.
06-03-2013
Huge number there! Guessing May Day was below 4m...
Mike Teevee
06-03-2013
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“I hope This puts an end to the talk about football ratings being down on ITV. It's all about who is playing and not the coverage. That always determines ratings.”

unfortunately for ITV that's probably as high as it will get for the rest of CL coverage. That is unless Barca and overturn deficit and we end up with a Barca v Madrid final

for those that want it....
ITV
4350
6371
7841
8284
6838
7870
8284
8251
7552
4941
ITV HD
1171
1755
1944
2081
1753
2151
2323
2277
2036
1264

even post match ITV won the slot, which is very very rare for them

Mayday held its ratings from Monday - 4324
ronant
06-03-2013
Mayday UP on Monday with 4.32m.
Mike Teevee
06-03-2013
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Huge number there! Guessing May Day was below 4m...”

Lex Luthor says

garyessex
06-03-2013
Meh. Football is an idiots game played by idiots, run by idiots and watched by idiots
derek500
06-03-2013
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“ Itv will still try to renew CL rights but BT could snatch away games from them.”

BT can't bid for the FTA rights. BT can try and get Sky's rights though.
seansnotmyname@
06-03-2013
Originally Posted by garyessex:
“Meh. Football is an idiots game played by idiots, run by idiots and watched by idiots”

Well, it's no Hollyoaks, I'll give you that.....
Sceptilianus
06-03-2013
Originally Posted by garyessex:
“Meh. Football is an idiots game played by idiots, run by idiots and watched by idiots”

and there's lots of them.
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