It would probably out-rate the 6.30pm news, which rates horribly as it obviously clashes with well-established news on BBC One and ITV. Channel 5 would like to get rid of it and rely on the 5pm news (which catches a decent number of home-coming viewers and rates really well), but Ofcom makes them have half an hour of news in primetime (6-10.30pm for these purposes). For the moment they just have to write off 6.30-7 which of course affects the 7pm shows.

Yeah. Why didn't they just keep 5 News at 7? They rated close to 750-800k. Whereas the move to 6.30 has badly affected 5 News.

Deal or No Deal is so 2006. It was very popular 7 years ago with 3-4 million regularly, but a combination of a tiresome format, it being milked to death, silly theme weeks and the lack of a summer break, have ruined the show.

I think they've tried every single pre-watershed slot over the years. I'd forgotten 7pm did that well, roughly matching Channel 4 News then. Totally different news agenda and tone meant little crossover I suppose. They could bring it back, but that would mean finding 30-min fillers at 7.30 if they wanted to preserve the 8pm junction.

Deal or No Deal should go back to basics. It needs to be cut back to 45 mins (or even 30), as there's far too much waffle and filler at the moment. They should get rid of the fancy dress/theme weeks and other twists too.

What they could do to rectify this problem is place a new gameshow in at 19:30 - 20:00. A filler at 18:30 would have to be a repeat slot or if Channel 5 had enough funding it could be room for a new nightly soap opera. Perhaps the soap opera could have a focus on murder mystery - to fit in with what Channel 5 is building an image for which is crime.

Agree. The hour is wasted by silliness. 30 minutes would be more than enough.

Anything for the 6:30 Regional News? Just thinking about the effect the Strike had on The One Show's Monday rating (3.77m). If the News is around the usual level, that's just over a 2 million fall in lead in for Mondays The One Show (4.08m), probably resulting in the 900k fall in Ratings. I know in my house anyway, the only reason The One Show is watched is because it follows the Regional News.


Always amazes me how the repeats so soon after the main showing, and in the 23:30 and later timeslot pull in good numbers.

That's because there is a lot of things on at 10pm on a tuesday which makes the later slot ideal.

Yes, STV only opt out of England matches (apart from in the World Cup, they don't go that far) and FA Cup matches, Of course at the height of their pathetic dispute with ITV they failed to get the rights to opt-out for Scottish teams, as had previously been the case, blamed ITV for not showing Rangers and Celtic on the network and then did their own coverage of the network match, with their own presenters and commentators, just to prove whatever stupid point it was they were making.


I think Face The Clock is actually now on repeats. Nobody's pointed out that The Common Denominator is a rehash of Tarby's Frame Game, have they? Probably because nobody remembers Tarby's Frame Game.


I dunno, in the early nineties they were doing alright, shows like 2 Point 4 Children were being launched and Ab Fab made a successful transition to BBC1. It was the late nineties they went rubbish, in 1997 they launched ten new sitcoms on BBC1 and the most popular ended up being Dad ("Hullo, Alan!"). Most of them failed to make it to a second series, rubbish like Pilgrim's Rest. And I watched them all as I'd got into the habit of masochistically watching every new comedy show on TV.


The chat show was always going to happen, though, they did a pilot for The Ten Show which was more or less what became That Sunday Night Show. And he was going to miss Friday's One Show to do it anyway. The idea of Chiles not doing Friday's One Show seemed fair enough anyway, with that and MOTD2 they'd have been bleeding him dry and it's good to have a number of presenters on The One Show so its appeal isn't entirely based around particular hosts and it dies whenever they're not there. They just handled it badly.

And as we know, ratings don't go down when Evans does it anyway.

The Sun today reports on an ITV revival of Stars in their Eyes to air this Summer. Some of us on here have been suggesting a tweak of the celebrity version of SITE for a while now.

In fact - instead of doing that - they have bought a hit Spannish format called 'Your Face Sounds Familiar' (that has also been done in Italy, Chile and various other countries).

This will see 7 celebs do a SITE impression of a music star in week one and be judged by a panel and home audience. For week 2 onwards they have to press a button and get given a star to impersonate the following week be they younger or older or even the wrong sex. The 7 do this up to the semi finals when the contestants start to get voted out.

Seems like handled well and with good hosting this has a chance of doing OK.

NeilVW - do you have the following consolidated ratings please?

- Lewis (11/2/13): both ITV (SD+HD) and ITV Total +HD
- Death in Paradise (12/2/13): BBC One

Thanks in advance

This would seem to be the big shiny floor show Elaine Bedell was hunting for. Another import as well - created by Endemol in Spain.

The important thing with this will be to ensure it starts late - 8pm or 8.30pm at the earliest I think. I guess they'll try and use BGT to give it a push, either by loads of trailers or potentially a lead-in if they can make it work.

Please not Stephen Mulhern or Vernon Kay presenting.

The curiosity value of any new show and new presenters will always attract an audience. In fact the Daybreak viewers began to drift away after the first few weeks when it became clear the ''chemistry'' between the presenters did not exist, one couldn't read the autocue and the other made clear her dislike of getting up at 3 am (not to mention having a millionaire footballer in tow which would go down well on the sink estates of Slough).There was also the fiasco of the studio windows as no-one had realised the show was being launched when London was in virtual darkness !

I doubt it will be either of them, definitely not Stephen Mulhern.

I'd guess Schofield would like a new Saturday vehicle. Davina McCall could complete her career revival with a big Saturday show on ITV1. Bradley Walsh stepping back up to primetime after success on The Chase.

Then there's the ITV2 people - Laura Whitmore, Caroline Flack and Matt Edmondson. Whether any of them are ready to step up... could be co-hosts I suppose. Flack might find it clashes with Xtra Factor.

perhaps it demonstrates that things are often left best alone and mucking around with schedules, presenters, etc repeatedly just annoys viewers. Which pretty much invalidates 95% of the postings on this thread! Incremental change is best.

Any ratings for the vampire diaries on itv2 last night plz

Why do the words Ant and Dec come to mind....

Ben Frow makes his first C5 commission 'Super Scroungers', a 3 part documentary series made in-house which explores the flaws in the benefit system:

http://about.channel5.com/node/1777

Oh God. Daily Express TV.

New entertainment series commissioned by ITV:


http://www.c21media.net/archives/101853

Yeah, because it's only an issue that affects Express readers and one commission defines a channel.

Without getting into any sort of political debate, its not an issue. This sort of programme just fuels hatred of the unemployed, the disabled and anyone else who desperately needs state support, through no fault of there own.

I never said this programme defines Channel 5 at all. But as a first commission, it's not exactly the best of starts. And the press release reads just like a Daily Express/Mail article.

Does sound something that Channel 4 would show, probably will do okay.