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The Ratings Thread (Part 46)
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F1Ken
10-03-2013
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Wouldn't it just be better if all the games and draws were rigged to ensure the best tv ratings?”

Of course it wouldn't.

Terrible idea.

Ken
Score
10-03-2013
ITV ran a short teaser for Britain's Got Talent a few minutes ago. Seems very early given that it isn't starting until mid-April! Looks like they want to build up hype early.

Also, what with the FA Cup lead-in and the improved slot Dancing on Ice should rate fairly well tonight - comfortably above 7m you'd think. Indeed, the final could well be up on last year's final (which averaged 7.4m with +1) which would be good going.
eterry21
10-03-2013
Hoping Channel 5's Sunday movies rate well today.

Also hoping Person Of Interest gets just above a million or 900k atleast! More people should be watching this, although, Channel 5's late scheduling have turned many away I presume...Hope they fastrack Season 2 in a different timeslot with added promotion.
jda135
10-03-2013
I think the Cup Replay (MU v CHE) might take place on either the 19th or 20th of March. England play San Marino on the Friday, and being realistic, will probably win. Therefore, they could have the game on the Wednesday and it wouldn't be a disadvantage to either Man Utd or Chelsea's England players (you could easily name a starting XI without a player from either team). If they had it on the Tuesday, it would make Chelsea's season even more exhaustive. Playing Thursday-Sunday-Tuesday would probably take it's toll.

IMO, it's better being played on the 20th of March. Get it over and done with before the International break.
Hassaan13
10-03-2013
Wouldn't they do the replay within the next week?
Fudd
10-03-2013
Originally Posted by jda135:
“I think the Cup Replay (MU v CHE) might take place on either the 19th or 20th of March. England play San Marino on the Friday, and being realistic, will probably win. Therefore, they could have the game on the Wednesday and it wouldn't be a disadvantage to either Man Utd or Chelsea's England players (you could easily name a starting XI without a player from either team). If they had it on the Tuesday, it would make Chelsea's season even more exhaustive. Playing Thursday-Sunday-Tuesday would probably take it's toll.

IMO, it's better being played on the 20th of March. Get it over and done with before the International break.”

It's not just England playing on that Friday; a host of nations are and they want to have their players by the Tuesday to train.
NeilVW
10-03-2013
Channel 4

Daytime/early evening (exc +1)

06:15 - Sali Mali (r): 41.5k (3.0%)
06:25 - The Treacle People (r): 31k (2.2%)
06:35 - The Grid: 62k (3.25%)
07:00 - Jump Boys: Channel 4 Racing: 69k (2.0%)
07:55 - The Morning Line: 203k (3.4%)
08:55 - Everybody Loves Raymond (r): 222k (3.0%)
09:25 - Everybody Loves Raymond (r): 270k (3.5%)
09:55 - Frasier (r): 323k (3.9%)
10:55 - The Big Bang Theory (r): 403k (4.8%)
11:20 - The Big Bang Theory (r): 426k (5.2%)
11:50 - The Simpsons (r): 464k (5.6%)
12:20 - The Simpsons (r): 531k (6.0%)
12:50 - Undercover Boss USA (r): 346k (3.5%)
13:45 - Channel 4 Racing: 480k (3.8%)
* peak: 672k (5.2%) at 15:15 (15:15 from Sandown Park)
16:10 - Come Dine with Me (r): 522k (3.6%)
16:45 - Come Dine with Me (r): 731k (4.75%)
17:15 - Come Dine with Me (r): 879k (5.3%)
17:45 - Come Dine with Me (r): 963k (5.4%)
18:15 - Come Dine with Me (r): 1.07m (5.6%)
18:45 - Channel 4 News: 568k (2.8%)
18:55 - 4thought.tv: 590k (3.0%)

Evening (exc/inc +1)

19:00 - The Queen's Hidden Cousins (r): 785k (3.6%) / 895k (4.1%)
20:00 - Kevin McCloud's Manmade Home (r): 723k (3.2%) / 857k (3.8%)
21:05 - FILM PREMIERE: Skyline (2010): 847k (4.0%) / 1.06m (5.0%)
22:50 - FILM: The Hole (2001): 390k (3.7%) / 496k (4.7%)
24:55-25:45 - Ricky Gervais: Science (r): 113k (2.9%)
Dancc
10-03-2013
Originally Posted by eterry21:
“Hoping Channel 5's Sunday movies rate well today.

Also hoping Person Of Interest gets just above a million or 900k atleast! More people should be watching this, although, Channel 5's late scheduling have turned many away I presume...Hope they fastrack Season 2 in a different timeslot with added promotion.”

Rocky 2 was well scheduled after the football. Might find an audience. They had a few good ones today with Space Jam on earlier as well (former ITV title?) and then Drive Angry later (pure nonsense that one, but enjoyable nonsense all the same).

Interested to see how Tesco Mum of the Year awards rated at lunchtime as I thought it was probably their best in-house production yet. I suppose an awards show stitched together with VTs can't be the hardest show in the world to make, but considering the awards only took place yesterday I was impressed with how slickly done it all was.

As for Person of Interest, now it's 10pm bound not 8pm as previously expected it's going to be hard for it to make much of an impact going forwards. I was thinking if it continues on its current disappointing trajectory, one option could be to make this a 5USA exclusive series from Season 2 onwards. It could be a big hit for them. In the mean time, C5's search for their next big US hit must continue, as unfortunately it doesn't appear as though Person of Interest is it. And next time there must be lots more marketing (including on other channels), no 10pm series premiere and no midseason hiatus !
Dancc
10-03-2013
Originally Posted by Digital Sid:
“Any ratings for Ricky Gervais: Science last night? Was on both E4 and C4, but quite late (10:40 and 12:45 respectively if I remember correctly)”

So it was on...

22:40 E4
23:40 E4+1
00:50 C4
01:50 C4+1

They got good use out of this repeat !
NeilVW
10-03-2013
Originally Posted by Digital Sid:
“Any ratings for Ricky Gervais: Science last night? Was on both E4 and C4, but quite late (10:40 and 12:45 respectively if I remember correctly)”

Channel 4 - see above
E4 (22:40) - 110k (0.8%) / 204.5k (1.4%)

That's a bonkers +1 audience, proportionally speaking.

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“They got good use out of this repeat !”

Indeed. It was also shown at 23:40 on E4 on Friday, and got 95k (1.3%) / 135k (1.9%).
NeilVW
10-03-2013
Channel 5

Daytime/early evening (exc +1)

06:00 - Milkshake!: 150k (3.1%)
* peak: 294k (4.3%) at 08:50 (Rupert Bear)
10:10 - Power Rangers: Samurai (r): 191k (2.3%)
10:45 - Batman: the Brave and the Bold: 163.5k (2.0%)
11:15 - Robson's Extreme Fishing Challenge (r): 173k (2.1%)
12:15 - Police Interceptors (r): 336k (3.7%)
13:15 - FILM: Nora Roberts' Carnal Innocence (2011): 354k (3.1%)
* 15 certificate - why show in daytime??
15:05 - Columbo: a Trace of Murder (r): 516k (3.7%)
16:55 - FILM: Yanks (1979): 679k (3.7%)
19:15 - 5 News: 476k (2.2%)

Evening (exc/inc +1)

19:20 - CSI: NY (r): 407k (1.8%) / 440k (2.0%)
20:15 - NCIS (r): 713k (3.1%) / 791.5k (3.5%)
21:10 - NCIS (r): 773k (3.5%) / 843k (3.8%)
22:10 - Law & Order: SVU: 884k (4.7%) / 934.5k (5.0%)
23:00 - Law & Order: CI: 696k (5.5%) / 747k (5.9%)
24:00 - Inside Hollywood (r): 245k (2.8%) exc +1
24:05 - SuperCasino: 46k (0.9%) exc +1
Fudd
10-03-2013
Originally Posted by Score:
“ITV ran a short teaser for Britain's Got Talent a few minutes ago. Seems very early given that it isn't starting until mid-April! Looks like they want to build up hype early.

Also, what with the FA Cup lead-in and the improved slot Dancing on Ice should rate fairly well tonight - comfortably above 7m you'd think. Indeed, the final could well be up on last year's final (which averaged 7.4m with +1) which would be good going.”

I don't think so as ITV had the news inbetween the football and Dancing on Ice; I'm not sure if there'd be much of a crossover either. I think Dancing on Ice will be hit in the second hour and will probably rate around 6m; just about good enough for renewal but needs a boot. Call the Midwife will be barely effected and Shetland v Mr. Selfridge will be interesting considering the relative lead ins.
nick202
10-03-2013
Originally Posted by F1Ken:
“I remember "the boy in the striped pyjamas" did very well for them. These British films are very good for the channel.

BBC Two should do more themed nights on saturdays.

Ken”

I remember that BBC2 used to do themed nights quite often in the early 90s - I can remember Birth Night and Radio Night from 1993. Nice to have a bit of an alternative from the dross on the main channels
kittenkong42
10-03-2013
Originally Posted by Score:
“ITV ran a short teaser for Britain's Got Talent a few minutes ago. Seems very early given that it isn't starting until mid-April! Looks like they want to build up hype early.

Also, what with the FA Cup lead-in and the improved slot Dancing on Ice should rate fairly well tonight - comfortably above 7m you'd think. Indeed, the final could well be up on last year's final (which averaged 7.4m with +1) which would be good going.”

Dancing on Ice is up against the heavily promoted 25th anniversary edition of Countryfile (with Prince Charles) and Call the Midwife. I would have thought it stands an equal chance of rating really quite badly particularly as there was a 10 minute news bulletin between it and the FA Cup...

It can't even beat an average edition of Countryfile this year
NeilVW
10-03-2013
Originally Posted by nick202:
“I remember that BBC2 used to do themed nights quite often in the early 90s - I can remember Birth Night and Radio Night from 1993. Nice to have a bit of an alternative from the dross on the main channels ”

I remember Hot and Cold Night from the late 1990s - about the weather.
Jaycee Dove
10-03-2013
At the end of DOI Phil said see you next year. He seems certain. Though Chris Dean was merely 'hopeful' earlier in the show when they mentioned doing a special commemoration of the perfect score bolero's 30th.

Great final - though - with an extraordinary end.

Spoiler
The bookies will be broke as the Man United style favourite lost - presumably as viewers never bothered to vote thinking he had won already.
Hassaan13
10-03-2013
Originally Posted by Jaycee Dove:
“At the end of DOI Phil said see you next year. He seems certain. Though Chris Dean was merely 'hopeful' earlier in the show when they mentioned doing a special commemoration of the perfect score bolero's 30th.

Great final - though - with an extraordinary end.”

Should mean better than expected ratings for it aswell.

Top Gear should manage to hit 6m tonight, was a splendid show.
Jonwo
10-03-2013
Originally Posted by Dancc:
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As for Person of Interest, now it's 10pm bound not 8pm as previously expected it's going to be hard for it to make much of an impact going forwards. I was thinking if it continues on its current disappointing trajectory, one option could be to make this a 5USA exclusive series from Season 2 onwards. It could be a big hit for them. In the mean time, C5's search for their next big US hit must continue, as unfortunately it doesn't appear as though Person of Interest is it. And next time there must be lots more marketing (including on other channels), no 10pm series premiere and no midseason hiatus !”

Think PoI should go on Saturdays, CSI: NY is likely to go in the CSI slot in the summer and 5 need something to fill the slot, as for future acquisitions, I think the SHIELD series will be of interest and perhaps NCIS: RED although I imagine Sky1 and FOX are looking at that one. There hasn't been a big US drama that has been a huge hit apart from Homeland and to an extent Glee. I think 5 should acquire the new Showtime series Ray Donovan either for the main channel or 5 USA as a 10pm show like Justified and Sons of Anarchy,
jda135
10-03-2013
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“It's not just England playing on that Friday; a host of nations are and they want to have their players by the Tuesday to train.”

I'm well aware that's it's international week, but it's the English FA that organise the FA Cup, not other football associations!

Chelsea have dictated their own season with numerous poor performances. A poor performance in Europe has left them with more fixture congestion, than they didn't need. The blame for any replay lies in the hands of both sets of players, and tops of what has been a poor season for Chelsea so far.
Brekkie
10-03-2013
And Chelsea and Man Utd famously don't have any foreign players at all.

Not that extraordinary - one of the consistently two best performers won, and Beth certainly had the better final routine. Matt was better overall both on the night and on the series but I think the judges didn't do him any favours tonight by overscoring his routines - neither justified a perfect score.

I do think Dancing on Ice is a certainty for next year as there is just nothing fighting for it's airtime at the moment so ITV might as well stick with it for another year. The 30th anniversary of the Bolero will help sway ITV - but it's what producers now do to try and stop the rot (if they can do anything). I wouldn't be surprised if they went for some kind of All Star series.

One positive from this series though has been it's probably the best judges panel they've had. It never made any sense having Karen sit on the sidelines, while Ashley Roberts has probably filled the role of "celeb who knows nothing about ice skating but we'll get her to judge anyway" better than any of her predecessors.
SamuelW
10-03-2013
Following the successes of Last tango in Halifax and Death in Paradise, Shetland could become bbc1's next surprise drama hit. Little buzz, little hype but I think it could rate brilliantly with the older crime-loving audience and get very good viewing figures especially after Call the midwife. It looks more accessible than Mayday and that got 6.2million this time last week.
Jaycee Dove
10-03-2013
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“ Not that extraordinary - one of the consistently two best performers won, and Beth certainly had the better final routine. Matt was better overall both on the night and on the series but I think the judges didn't do him any favours tonight by overscoring his routines - neither justified a perfect score.

I do think Dancing on Ice is a certainty for next year as there is just nothing fighting for it's airtime at the moment so ITV might as well stick with it for another year. The 30th anniversary of the Bolero will help sway ITV - but it's what producers now do to try and stop the rot (if they can do anything). I wouldn't be surprised if they went for some kind of All Star series.

One positive from this series though has been it's probably the best judges panel they've had. It never made any sense having Karen sit on the sidelines, while Ashley Roberts has probably filled the role of "celeb who knows nothing about ice skating but we'll get her to judge anyway" better than any of her predecessors.”

I personally agree with all of that but Matt looked utterly gutted as I am sure he was certain he would win and relaunch his career on the back of this.

Beth's bolero was IMO the best ever on the show.

But I am near certain the media will bill it as a shock result created by his fans not bothering to vote.

An all star show could work as a fitting finale as I doubt ratings will turn around now and it would be a good way to go out.
iaindb
10-03-2013
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Following the successes of Last tango in Halifax and Death in Paradise, Shetland could become bbc1's next surprise drama hit. Little buzz, little hype but I think it could rate brilliantly with the older crime-loving audience and get very good viewing figures especially after Call the midwife. It looks more accessible than Mayday and that got 6.2million this time last week.”

It would be interesting to see its audience share in Scotland compared with its share across the whole of the UK.
Jaycee Dove
10-03-2013
The Daily Mail today have a full page splash on Broadchurch (p.17) with a large Jaci Stephen review and several stories about the show - notably the extraordinary lengths they went to to keep the ending secret.

Locked safes, uncopyable script paper, telling NONE of the cast about the conclusion during all 5 months filming and only revealing it to those who had to know the night before actual filming - leading to a large betting ring involving cast friends and family on the outcome.

Not even Peter Fincham was told until last week.

Wonder if that will intrigue viewers enough to boost ratngs?
Fudd
10-03-2013
Originally Posted by jda135:
“I'm well aware that's it's international week, but it's the English FA that organise the FA Cup, not other football associations!

Chelsea have dictated their own season with numerous poor performances. A poor performance in Europe has left them with more fixture congestion, than they didn't need. The blame for any replay lies in the hands of both sets of players, and tops of what has been a poor season for Chelsea so far.”

They'll want a high quality FA Cup Quarter Final; not one played by threadbare squads just to get it out of the way.

And Chelsea's season could have been worse - they could have finished in fourth place in their Champions League group and be out of Europe entirely. They shouldn't be punished because they're contesting a UEFA competition.

Of course, they could go out to Steua Bucharest - then this conversation would be nul and void.
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