So have I. I agree that it's not an excuse, but I think it goes some way towards explaining why he behaves in the way he does. He apparently didn't get on well at school, and if he had a problem with criticism when he was younger, it appears that he still has it.

Agreed, which is why I asked Kaycee for more information. I had one in a college class who had ADHD, bright but shockingly poor social skills and the attention span of a gnat.

The interesting thing there though is that whilst it clearly bothers some people on forums there is no evidence that it goes against you in the public vote. Widdy certainly got much further than she should. Roxanne got quite far in the show as did Andy Whyment last year & Luke has yet to be in the skate off.

Do you really think he would have achieved what he has in his career if this were true.

I think that Luke's comebacks are a misguided attempt at banter & nothing more.

Yes, I do. It's quite possible to have a problem with authority/criticism in one field, and apply yourself differently in another, in my experience.

He has seemingly struggled with some aspects of the skating/performing - it's a joint, not a solo venture, and out of his comfort zone - and possibly feels as though his efforts haven't been recognised or he hasn't had the chance to shine (possibly with some justification considering the routines he's been given).

I think he presents as young for his age, rather unsophisticated, and not terribly bright. None of these things are his fault but that does mean he's not going to come over well if he tries to argue his case spontaneously.

I would say that Luke was an unfortunate choice for a celeb contest and that he is the victim.

If he really has learning difficulties and social problems, then perhaps a prime TV show is not the most helpful showcase for him.

But on the other hand - how the heck was he put into a boxing rink - and by whom?

He said he joined a boxing gym at 13 to channel his aggression: http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/d...-talks-1530813

Boxing is the ideal way to channel natural aggression while still sticking to rules.
Coaches are well used to bumping heads with opinionated boys thinking they know best & with behavioural problems. Most boys learn to rein themselves in both in real life & in the ring,but some still retain the attitude issues. Luke is of that ilk. He has tasted the limelight & thinks himself above negative criticism. He is special in boxing,but not in skating .He looks like a petulant 13 yr old. I keep expecting him to scream " I HATE YOU !" at the judges & stomp off to his dressing room slamming every door on the way .

My experience is that if you treat a group including people with difficulties in an inclusive manner you get good results. This doesn't mean avoiding issues but having the same calm and constructive manner with all. It tries the patience but is far better for everyone. Jason IMO fails to do this, whilst Robin is generally very good at it. It is no accident IMO that Luke does not feel the need to challenge Robin.

It is a judges job - no matter what they are judging - to judge what they see in front of them, and definitely not to treat one person differently than any other. Robin & Karen are basically nice to everyone; Jason says exactly how he sees things - to everyone. It's Luke's problem if he can't handle it.

I disagree. Jason IMO is inconsistent in his manner both within and between contestants. On occasion her is helpful, all too often not. The others, including Ashley, understand how to get more from those they are judging by acknowledging good points whilst asking for improvements helpfully. As a teacher whose job it is to assess as well as instruct, I am sure you appreciate this.

No, he just regurgitates outrageous insults that for the most part he must have spent the whole week scripting in advance. If he was constructive rather than simply insulting then the slebs might learn something from him.

I totally agree, Jason doesn't earn respect from the celebs.

http://tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv/dan...ardiner-2.html

Hooray for Luke The only disappointment that I have after reading that is that it is a shame that ,after failing to find a picture of Jason's face to put on his punchbag, he didn't use the real thing instead

so you like to promote physical violence?

I'm not a fan of Jason's but I don't think Luke's coming across well in all of this

Have to say I find this a bit of an extreme response I get that you really don't like Jason and are going to take every opportunity to have a go at him but his comments certainly don't merit physical violence or even the threat of physical violence.

I agree with diamond on this occasion I think it is showing that Luke actually does have an attittude problem as that is how his comment comes across to me and actually comes across as really petty and on this occasion I fully agreed with what Jason said I had actually missed it in the show and couldn't understand what Jason was on about in the skate off and had been on Lukes side at that point however seeing the stuff on This Morning I have to agree with Jason.

Luke IMO has come across as very sulky and a tad like a spoilt child used to getting his own way in this show and certainly I think even his partnership with Jenna has gone down a bit over the last few weeks as well as I just don't think they have the connection they did at the start and I wonder if his attitude is in part responsbile for that too.

Luke is crap

He's not as crap as Samia.

In your opinion.

Sorry if it makes me as unpopular as Jason, but I don't think what Jason said was so insulting, in fact not that different to what has been said on here. And if Luke was really as capable of "taking criticism on the chin" as he claims, he would just do it, instead of finding it necessary to say so.

Believe me I hold no brief for Jason and his 'bored to Beth' comment disgusted me in a similar vein to some of his most distasteful attempts to humiliate the contestants in drawing attention to himself. It is however my opinion that Beth delivered the perfect put down when she listened to his critique without even the twitch of a muscle. It's the only way to deal with Jason's self congratulatory attempts at humiliation.

However - and oh joy - when Jason commented on Luke's phantomt lift I felt myself urging him to grab this unique opportunity to remind him, in measured or bewildered tones. that the lift in question was taken out of the routine. Sadly the point was diluted due to Luke’s truculence and the unnecessary reference to the spreadeagle.

Someone should tell Luke that on occasion less is more.



You make a good point but imo whilst truculence and belligerence make little difference to the vote I do think that spontaneous wit and repartee (a la John Sergeant) is much more engaging.

I'd love to see Paxman take on Jason or CRH - but that is dreaming the impossible dream.

Though I'm a major sports fan I'm not a follower of boxing.

Is Luke really the most successful amateur boxer in British history? I'd be interested in the opinions of knowledgeable boxing afficionados.

WOW---just wow. Espousing physical violence is rather sad IMO.
I'm shocked anyone would say that.
I had thought Luke's comment incredibly juvenile & indicative of his volatile & hostile temperament,but never dreamed anyone would go a step further in comments.
You DO understand that Jason is paid to comment on the routines. It is his job & he does it well . Luke's job is to shut his pie-hole & let his skates do the talking. But he just can't . He has to do the big "I AM" thing tough-guy in everything.
As I said before on here,it is rather shocking that a judge like Robin dares mention the "tension between Luke & his partner" during his critique. So ,his partner must be taking some stick from the little boy throwing his toys out of his pram in training. Stupid boy.

Who said anything about Samia? I thought this was about Luke

You seem a tad obsessed with Samia. Maybe get some help for that.