kinda weird seeing 1D so big at The Brits and Cardle nowhere to be seen

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outof thepark

22-02-2013

Originally Posted by fireemblemcraze:
“Even better marketing actually was putting Ella instead of James for the NTAs. That way Britain at least remembers both of them for even a short while. They've done well to give enough publicity to both artists. It's a win win situation for Syco.”

I agree to be honest ..with the demise of the x factor winner being the be all and end all ..the dream etc ..they are seing the show as an overall promotional tool to promote a number of acts in different ways...
I dont think its such a bad thing at the moment but it might kill the show in the long term

copterpylons

22-02-2013

Originally Posted by outof thepark:
“I agree it silly to compare matt and James.. Different shows etc etc
But i do think that the reason the released James's single outside the Uk is because times have moved on ..the UK market is shrinking just look at album sales ..”

Actually the UK singles market is growing, not shrinking. And the comparison being made is about singles not albums--obviously, since James has yet to release one.

AMS13

22-02-2013

Originally Posted by fireemblemcraze:
“Ok, except you've missed my point entirely. Why do you think Syco never released When We Collide outside the UK?? Why do you think they did with Impossible? Easy, because Impossible was their most successful venture yet, way more than When We Collide! It basically demonstrates that Matt was a failure and James is a success (thus far).

Tired of these Matt vs James debates...:yawn:”

There would not be Matt vs James debates if James supporters were not forever having digs at Matt. If you check the thread who started the put downs? Matt and his fans are happy with the direction his career is going and James has just had the winner's single and it is early days with how his career goes. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

fireemblemcraze

23-02-2013

Originally Posted by AMS13:
“There would not be Matt vs James debates if James supporters were not forever having digs at Matt. If you check the thread who started the put downs? Matt and his fans are happy with the direction his career is going and James has just had the winner's single and it is early days with how his career goes. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz”

Right, but it started off by someone saying that James would end up like Matt too. So obviously we had to come to his defence. None of us started it really. A third party started (usually always does) inciting one fanbase against another.

AMS13

23-02-2013

Originally Posted by fireemblemcraze:
“Right, but it started off by someone saying that James would end up like Matt too. So obviously we had to come to his defence. None of us started it really. A third party started (usually always does) inciting one fanbase against another.”

Nice comment and so true.

outof thepark

23-02-2013

Originally Posted by copterpylons:
“Actually the UK singles market is growing, not shrinking. And the comparison being made is about singles not albums--obviously, since James has yet to release one.”

why quote half of my post
The uk market in albums is shrinking ...correct??
My point was that by releasing james's single outside the uk has given him a bigger platform to potential sell more albums in europe .more live performances..wider market...good marketing IMO

*Liya*

23-02-2013

Alexandra's winners single was available on itunes in several European countries when she won...i can't see why Matt/Joe/Little Mix wouldn't be made available either....

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