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What's a gripe is purely a matter of opinion. It may not be a gripe to you, but clearly it is to someone else.
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#627 |
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What about Janice?? I always thought she was too good for Chandler...
Long enough to make an impact and serve a story arc, but not long enough to overstay her welcome. I'd class her as recurring in the same vein as Susan and Carol - well enough liked by the key players to be brought back for a few episodes here and there, but not well enough to have a long unbroken run of appearences like Mike. |
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She appeared in about 20 episodes across 10 years; what was her longest unbroken string of appearences? 5 or 6 episodes in total (similar to Tag and Charlie)?
Long enough to make an impact and serve a story arc, but not long enough to overstay her welcome. I'd class her as recurring in the same vein as Susan and Carol - well enough liked by the key players to be brought back for a few episodes here and there, but not well enough to have a long unbroken run of appearences like Mike. |
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Part of it was probably the fact she was there in the first season, before the main 6 had become as close knit as they had after many years on the show.
As were the actors playing Carol, Susan, Judy, Jack and Gunther now I think about it......... |
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Part of it was probably the fact she was there in the first season, before the main 6 had become as close knit as they had after many years on the show.
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When you watch them back you realise Ross was the funniest character.
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Richard was there in season 2, and Tom Selleck complained of feeling left out on set as well
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Source?
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They've explained why it's a gripe and I'm explaining why the reasoning doesn't make sense.
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You're taking it a bit too seriously. It's none of your business what other people see as a gripe. You either agree it disagree but that doesn't mean the gripe itself is wrong. Move on.
I'm discussing the topic with another poster. Move on. |
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One thing that never made sense to me was the cover-ups Monica and Chandler used when their affair was secret. There was the time when Rachel heard them talking on the phone. Monica said she was about to call Chandler Mr Bigot rather than Mr Big[Something Else] which didn't explain 1) why they were talking on the phone, the Friends hardly ever do that 2) why Monica said on the phone that she would lie to Rachel and say she was doing laundry instead of going to see Chandler. Rachel wasn't the smartest but she's not stupid enough to fall for that.
Then there was the scene where Joey was fed up of covering for Monica and Chandler and told the group that she had slept with him and was now stalking him. They were shocked but it was never mentioned again. Then when it was revealed that she was actually sleeping with Chandler, everybody went nuts over it. |
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I blame the scriptwriters.
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In series 1 and 2 the gang always used to get really annoyed and made fun when Mr Heckles from downstairs complained he could hear them moving around and making loads of noise, yet in another episode (series 3 i think?) Monica and Rachel are angry about their "unbelievably loud upstairs neighbour" who they can hear moving about and talking. Phoebe and later on, the guys even go up there to yell at him. Hypocrites much?!
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One thing that never made sense to me was the cover-ups Monica and Chandler used when their affair was secret. There was the time when Rachel heard them talking on the phone. Monica said she was about to call Chandler Mr Bigot rather than Mr Big[Something Else] which didn't explain 1) why they were talking on the phone, the Friends hardly ever do that 2) why Monica said on the phone that she would lie to Rachel and say she was doing laundry instead of going to see Chandler. Rachel wasn't the smartest but she's not stupid enough to fall for that.
Then there was the scene where Joey was fed up of covering for Monica and Chandler and told the group that she had slept with him and was now stalking him. They were shocked but it was never mentioned again. Then when it was revealed that she was actually sleeping with Chandler, everybody went nuts over it. Quote:
In series 1 and 2 the gang always used to get really annoyed and made fun when Mr Heckles from downstairs complained he could hear them moving around and making loads of noise, yet in another episode (series 3 i think?) Monica and Rachel are angry about their "unbelievably loud upstairs neighbour" who they can hear moving about and talking. Phoebe and later on, the guys even go up there to yell at him. Hypocrites much?!
well spotted
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This is more of a question than a gripe, but having watched The One With The Stoned Guy on Comedy Central earlier, is that Steve guy the same guy who Phoebe sets Rachel up with in The Blind Dates episode? If so, surely Rachel would have remembered him in The Blind Dates episode
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This is more of a question than a gripe, but having watched The One With The Stoned Guy on Comedy Central earlier, is that Steve guy the same guy who Phoebe sets Rachel up with in The Blind Dates episode? If so, surely Rachel would have remembered him in The Blind Dates episode
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This is more of a question than a gripe, but having watched The One With The Stoned Guy on Comedy Central earlier, is that Steve guy the same guy who Phoebe sets Rachel up with in The Blind Dates episode? If so, surely Rachel would have remembered him in The Blind Dates episode
As for Rachel remembering - the two events are several years apart. I wouldn't necessarily remember someone I met once several years ago. WE (the audience members who paid enough attention to create a thread of this length) remember, and it's a nice in-joke; but it doesn't mean the wider audience, nor the characters, should be expected to remember. |
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My biggest gripe is that people are still going on about it.
My second biggest gripe is people quoting from it in 2013. My third biggest gripe is people thinking it was some kind of window on their own lives, highly unlikely (but Friends fans are always keen to go on a rant about how wrong that statement is). |
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It is the same guy - although it's never explicitly stated I remember reading somewhere that it's the same guy.
As for Rachel remembering - the two events are several years apart. I wouldn't necessarily remember someone I met once several years ago. WE (the audience members who paid enough attention to create a thread of this length) remember, and it's a nice in-joke; but it doesn't mean the wider audience, nor the characters, should be expected to remember. I wouldn't say she would remember him either, Its similar to argument from last week of Phoebe not remembering her brother being the person who dropped the condom in her case, though there was a lot less time between that and meeting her brother then in between Rachels meetings with Steve. |
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#645 |
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My main gripe with the show was Phoebe, who was just filler, and REALLY annoying. I know this weon't be a popular view, but almost everything she said annoyed the crap out of me
Then there was Ross, who got so whiney by the end I loathed him. I think Rachel should have ended up with Joey. OK, I said it, and I will now take cover
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OK, another query that's not a gripe at all! I just thought I'd ask here as this is the current active Friends thread.
In the episode where Monica has a Ms Pacman arcade game and Chandler assigns rude three-letter words next to all the high scores, there's a conversation along the lines of: Monica: That word isn't rude... Chandler: It is if you put it together with that one there. Monica: Well[...]you won't be getting one of those from me later! Is it possible to work out what those two words were? Juvenile, I know! |
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OK, another query that's not a gripe at all! I just thought I'd ask here as this is the current active Friends thread.
In the episode where Monica has a Ms Pacman arcade game and Chandler assigns rude three-letter words next to all the high scores, there's a conversation along the lines of: Monica: That word isn't rude... Chandler: It is if you put it together with that one there. Monica: Well[...]you won't be getting one of those from me later! Is it possible to work out what those two words were? Juvenile, I know! |
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It is the same guy - although it's never explicitly stated I remember reading somewhere that it's the same guy.
As for Rachel remembering - the two events are several years apart. I wouldn't necessarily remember someone I met once several years ago. WE (the audience members who paid enough attention to create a thread of this length) remember, and it's a nice in-joke; but it doesn't mean the wider audience, nor the characters, should be expected to remember. |
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Its similar to argument from last week of Phoebe not remembering her brother being the person who dropped the condom in her case.
My gripe is bonafide, the fact others decided to give the situation a non existent, supposition based background doesn't make them correct. |
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Surely someone who offered Monica a job and was high at the interview would be memorable for Rachel?!
Did Rachel even meet the stoned guy? |
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well spotted
Then there was Ross, who got so whiney by the end I loathed him. I think Rachel should have ended up with Joey. OK, I said it, and I will now take cover 