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I forgot that Frank Jr appeared in series 10. That wasn't a great episode
What do people think of Eddie? Never seen the Eddie storyline discussed on this thread but I liked it, having watched those episodes again I think he should have been in more episodes The occasional Chandler bumping into him moment could have worked (Like with Janice) but no more than that |
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Everyone has to remember that Friend's was filmed in a an era when there was little need to ensure continuity. Few people would remember the exact details of an episodes when they were aired on a weekly basis and even fewer would discuss it with others in a time before everyone used the internet everyday. The writers would simply adapt things to fit the story line or character trait that was appearing in the episode. I'm sure you could pick apart the whole premise of the show if you wanted to (how did Monica afford to live in that apartment alone before Rachel came? How come Chandler (Ross's friend) happened to live in the apartment across the hall?
I can only assume Chandler was alerted to an apartment vacancy in the first place because of his connections to Ross and Monica. |
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He was a good character for a few episodes, But more than than he would have gotten annoying fast.
The occasional Chandler bumping into him moment could have worked (Like with Janice) but no more than that One comment on Eddie though and this might also be an 'era' thing. I have seen a few online comments in more recent times criticising the Eddie storyline because it could be seen to mock those with mental health issues. I guess it shows how quickly this topic has become more widely aware to the general public. Although again, without widespread internet access around the time it first aired, I suppose it is possible people felt strongly against it at the time but had less opportunitie to speak up about it. |
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Phoebe and David were set up as being meant to be, All the way that was how it seemed then they just threw him away for Mike (Who despite many people hating i thought he was great) Strange decision that one
Phoebe and David were actually a better option that the terrible Ross and Rachel we had to put up with New gripe - why on earth would Ross have worn that enormous pair of shorts when he got a spray tan?? They covered half his lower body - the white bits would have looked horrendous!! |
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It was quite obvious that Alice didn't return because of Debra's role on That 70s show... and the show was on for quite a few years.
With Frank Jr coming back in S10, the specific plotline wasn't great, but the rest of the episode was brilliant. And I also echo that the reason we didn't see more of Frank (Phoebe's Dad) is because of his role in S5, it wasn't that great either and as someone already said, I think it would have been a waste of an episode to have him return again. I'm glad that he didn't actually turn up at Phoebe's wedding, all the other friends at that point were more like family than any of her actual family would ever be. I mean, seriously, Ursula could have at least made an effort? I know she didn't invite Phoebe to her and Eric's planned wedding, but I would have thought, Phoebe would have invited her. However, we don't know, she could have invited her, but she just didn't come. With David, I guess Hank just didn't have a lot of time in that time, I know that during 2004, he has 4 films on the go (which is when the majority of S10 would have aired) and he was starring with Jennifer Aniston in Along Came Polly in that year. It's a shame, we didn't see enough scenes with Hank and Jen in Friends though. Now as for the "laughter". I hear on many shows how they add laughter, but on the S10 DVD extras, I was watching the interviews with cast and crew, and in some cases, the opposite was done in Friends. Apparently when Janice entered Joey and Chandlers apartment in S5 as Ross' date, the real audience actually wooped and cheered for much, much longer than we see on the show, they had to cut down a lot of that. Same with S6 first episode, I'm pretty sure I heard Jennifer Anniston improvised, "This is not a marriage, this is the worlds worst hangover", the line was supposed to be a simple unfunny, "Stop saying marriage". But the audience reacted well to what Jen said that they kept it in... even though they had to cut out a lot of the audiences reaction. And again, I know I've said this before, but I love TOW The Truth About London and the ending scene that Jennifer was actually unaware about. Her freakout was actually real
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I liked Eddie too but agree with this, his story arc was just about right and it was always on the cards presumably that Joey would move back in to readdress the status quo.
One comment on Eddie though and this might also be an 'era' thing. I have seen a few online comments in more recent times criticising the Eddie storyline because it could be seen to mock those with mental health issues. I guess it shows how quickly this topic has become more widely aware to the general public. Although again, without widespread internet access around the time it first aired, I suppose it is possible people felt strongly against it at the time but had less opportunitie to speak up about it. |
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Can someone explain this episode
- Pheobe and Chandler are looking at engagement rings for Monica. Chandler picks one out but left his card at his home, so asks Pheobe to guard the ring. Pheobe then gets distracted and some other guy ends up buying the ring instead. Fair enough. Next thing we know is that Pheobe and Chandler show up at a restaurant where the guy is proposing (how did they know he was there? How did Pheobe recognize him after only seeing him from behind for like 2 seconds?) and then they approach the guy telling him there's someone on the phone for him (she didn't look like restaurant stuff, plus how would she know the guys name???)....and then the guy ends up swapping engagement rings with them anyway!!! Utter madness. So many stupid holes in the plot. I can never understand it. |
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Can someone explain this episode
- Pheobe and Chandler are looking at engagement rings for Monica. Chandler picks one out but left his card at his home, so asks Pheobe to guard the ring. Pheobe then gets distracted and some other guy ends up buying the ring instead. Fair enough. Next thing we know is that Pheobe and Chandler show up at a restaurant where the guy is proposing (how did they know he was there? How did Pheobe recognize him after only seeing him from behind for like 2 seconds?) and then they approach the guy telling him there's someone on the phone for him (she didn't look like restaurant stuff, plus how would she know the guys name???)....and then the guy ends up swapping engagement rings with them anyway!!! Utter madness. So many stupid holes in the plot. I can never understand it. |
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I just watched that episode, it is a pretty poor one to be honest.
DJFunnyman is right, Phoebe said she overheard where he was going to propose. But surely if she was distracted enough to allow him to buy the ring while Chandler was gone, why on earth would she have being paying attention to him discussing the restaurant he was going to propose in. And it seems a ridiculous coincidence that he would be there at that exact time, how were they to know he wasn't planning to propose days, weeks or even a month down the line. The Bruce Willis part is cringeworthy and the Joey and Ross freezing out Chandler are awful too. It's an unmemorable episode and now I remember why. Not quite as bad as the Shark Porn episode, which I think is my least favourite, but could be Top 5 worst. |
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Not a gripe but I think this is an underrated moment that not many people mention.
TOW The Red Sweater when Ross and Chandler try and recreate the photos they supposedly lost. When Ross is up there and they want him to make a speech and he says about moving the car as it's about to be towed, and that man comes along... "that's my car" . "A 95 LeSabre?" "Yes" "A green LeSabre?" "Yes", "I'm sorry, I meant a blue LeSabre" " Yes, green blue" " Well go, go move it!" I don't know why that makes me laugh so much. And basically all the Ross scenes in TOW The Stripper. |
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I just watched that episode, it is a pretty poor one to be honest.
DJFunnyman is right, Phoebe said she overheard where he was going to propose. But surely if she was distracted enough to allow him to buy the ring while Chandler was gone, why on earth would she have being paying attention to him discussing the restaurant he was going to propose in. And it seems a ridiculous coincidence that he would be there at that exact time, how were they to know he wasn't planning to propose days, weeks or even a month down the line. The Bruce Willis part is cringeworthy and the Joey and Ross freezing out Chandler are awful too. It's an unmemorable episode and now I remember why. Not quite as bad as the Shark Porn episode, which I think is my least favourite, but could be Top 5 worst. In the one with the Bullies, why is it just Chandler and Ross who are at the coffee house together when the Bullies are in there? Is it just because the other characters were in other storylines? Can we assume that the Bullies were regular customers too? |
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Oh and another gripe, in London when it's revealed Monica slept with Chandler why would Monica come up from under the covers and ask 'do you think he knew I was here?'. I always found that line so stupid as obviously Ross didn't see her or he would have said something. He opened the door, yelled 'I'M GETTING MARRIED' and closed the door again so why on earth would Monica ask if he had spotted her???
![]() They could have used a better line to reveal her instead of that. |
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Can someone explain this episode
- Pheobe and Chandler are looking at engagement rings for Monica. Chandler picks one out but left his card at his home, so asks Pheobe to guard the ring. Pheobe then gets distracted and some other guy ends up buying the ring instead. Fair enough. Next thing we know is that Pheobe and Chandler show up at a restaurant where the guy is proposing (how did they know he was there? How did Pheobe recognize him after only seeing him from behind for like 2 seconds?) and then they approach the guy telling him there's someone on the phone for him (she didn't look like restaurant stuff, plus how would she know the guys name???)....and then the guy ends up swapping engagement rings with them anyway!!! Utter madness. So many stupid holes in the plot. I can never understand it. And they made the name of his colleague up and happened to get it right, If you look at their reactions they are shocked the name was correct Long shot at her not being staff, But why would he doubt that....They said someone was on the phone, Wasn't like they asked for his credit card |
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Oh and another gripe, in London when it's revealed Monica slept with Chandler why would Monica come up from under the covers and ask 'do you think he knew I was here?'. I always found that line so stupid as obviously Ross didn't see her or he would have said something. He opened the door, yelled 'I'M GETTING MARRIED' and closed the door again so why on earth would Monica ask if he had spotted her???
![]() They could have used a better line to reveal her instead of that. And another gripe about that....It was the morning, Joey hadn't been back....Why was the room door so easily opened. This wasn't some apartment in NYC this was a hotel in London |
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Another gripe about this scene is why Monica is already hiding under the covers prior to Ross bursting in.
Although on reflection it might be best not to ponder the reasons why.........
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How come Chandler (Ross's friend) happened to live in the apartment across the hall?
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In the eppie where the girls take their appartment back, how the hell did 2 women, and Phoebe who was pregnant, move all the furniture from one appartment to the next in a matter of hours. I recently moved, only next door and it took me days to move all my stuff and unpack.
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It was quite obvious that Alice didn't return because of Debra's role on That 70s show... and the show was on for quite a few years.
With Frank Jr coming back in S10, the specific plotline wasn't great, but the rest of the episode was brilliant. And I also echo that the reason we didn't see more of Frank (Phoebe's Dad) is because of his role in S5, it wasn't that great either and as someone already said, I think it would have been a waste of an episode to have him return again. I'm glad that he didn't actually turn up at Phoebe's wedding, all the other friends at that point were more like family than any of her actual family would ever be. I mean, seriously, Ursula could have at least made an effort? I know she didn't invite Phoebe to her and Eric's planned wedding, but I would have thought, Phoebe would have invited her. However, we don't know, she could have invited her, but she just didn't come. With David, I guess Hank just didn't have a lot of time in that time, I know that during 2004, he has 4 films on the go (which is when the majority of S10 would have aired) and he was starring with Jennifer Aniston in Along Came Polly in that year. It's a shame, we didn't see enough scenes with Hank and Jen in Friends though. Now as for the "laughter". I hear on many shows how they add laughter, but on the S10 DVD extras, I was watching the interviews with cast and crew, and in some cases, the opposite was done in Friends. Apparently when Janice entered Joey and Chandlers apartment in S5 as Ross' date, the real audience actually wooped and cheered for much, much longer than we see on the show, they had to cut down a lot of that. Same with S6 first episode, I'm pretty sure I heard Jennifer Anniston improvised, "This is not a marriage, this is the worlds worst hangover", the line was supposed to be a simple unfunny, "Stop saying marriage". But the audience reacted well to what Jen said that they kept it in... even though they had to cut out a lot of the audiences reaction. And again, I know I've said this before, but I love TOW The Truth About London and the ending scene that Jennifer was actually unaware about. Her freakout was actually real ![]() |
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What a poor episode the one with Joey's fridge is.
Also, a gripe about Comedy Central's airing of Friends. Twice in the past couple of days they have shown the episodes leading up to the season finales, but then skipped the two part finale and jumped straight to the next season opener. This happened with Emily's Wedding and tonight with The Proposal doubleheader. |
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It's probably already been explained here on the show but can't remember.
So we know Chandler gets a job as Junior Copywriter in the Lottory episode. He seems really happy and we're all hapoy for him, but what happened to the job after the final episode? Monica and Chandler get a new house and move out. So did he have to start from scratchror did they transfer him to a job closer to where they would live? |
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It's probably already been explained here on the show but can't remember.
So we know Chandler gets a job as Junior Copywriter in the Lottory episode. He seems really happy and we're all hapoy for him, but what happened to the job after the final episode? Monica and Chandler get a new house and move out. So did he have to start from scratchror did they transfer him to a job closer to where they would live? |
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I still have the same gripe as is usual for me,and that is that that they never played "The one with the free porn" on daytime e4.This episode was one of the best imo,really funny,and a major part of the Ross/Emily storyline so I'm guessing a whole generation has no idea about it.
Do they play it on the new channel? |
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Me and my gf are watching through all 10 seasons (still). I've watched them all before, but never in the right order
She's new to it though. She seems to hate Ross I don't, but I think she feels the same way about him as I do towards Ted from How I Met Your Mother- the show tries too hard to make you like Ted, but he's generally just a dick. I'm also noticing now just how bad season 8 is compared with some of the others. The Joey and Rachel thing was just bad in my opinion and did not work at all. They seemed to remove a lot of the gags to try and make it more serious, a bit like the episodes where someone is getting married or having a baby, it can all get a bit too schmaltzy for my taste. Also the episodes where they are just compilations of previous clips are lazy and self indulgent and that early episode with Jean Claude Van Dam in it is just bizarre and kind of boring! It also annoys me the times they decide to spell good jokes out to you and sort of ruin them. Someone mentioned this recently in a thread on US humour and how UK humour tends to have two stages- the set up and the punch line, but US comedy often has a third stage of making sure everyone knows it's a JOKE in capital letters, and now I am noticing it more and more- like when Joey gets in touch with his feminine side and Chandler shouts at him for turning into a woman and Joey is like; "Why would you say that, that's just mean!" and Chandler says: "What did I say, now I've upset you?" and he's like "It wasn't what you said it was how you said it" All that bit is hilarious, but then Joey follows it up with "Oh my god, I'm a woman!!" and that last bit is unnecessary in my opinion and kind of makes me cringe a little bit. It would have been funnier if they'd just left it deadpan. It's almost like they can't bear their audience thinking Joey could unknowingly be quite feminine at times, for longer than a few seconds, like they'd go off his character or something I notice so many jokes where they have to spell it out like that, it's kind of annoying.Having said all that though, I am over-analysing. I've always been a big fan of the show, even when it's not at it's best, it's still streets ahead of most current sitcoms, many of which just badly rip it off, with less likable characters *cough* How I Met Your Mother* cough*
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I still have the same gripe as is usual for me,and that is that that they never played "The one with the free porn" on daytime e4.This episode was one of the best imo,really funny,and a major part of the Ross/Emily storyline so I'm guessing a whole generation has no idea about it.
Do they play it on the new channel? I'm not really sure why e4 ever felt the need to skip it, it is not as though it actually featured porn, just references to it and although that was the title of the episode, there was plenty of other stuff going on in the episode. |
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It also annoys me the times they decide to spell good jokes out to you and sort of ruin them. Someone mentioned this recently in a thread on US humour and how UK humour tends to have two stages- the set up and the punch line, but US comedy often has a third stage of making sure everyone knows it's a JOKE in capital letters, and now I am noticing it more and more- like when Joey gets in touch with his feminine side and Chandler shouts at him for turning into a woman and Joey is like; "Why would you say that, that's just mean!" and Chandler says: "What did I say, now I've upset you?" and he's like "It wasn't what you said it was how you said it" All that bit is hilarious, but then Joey follows it up with "Oh my god, I'm a woman!!" and that last bit is unnecessary in my opinion and kind of makes me cringe a little bit. It would have been funnier if they'd just left it deadpan. ![]() I remember this being discussed on one of the Buffy DVD commentaries. Joss Whedon called it 'going beyond the joke', and saying it should be avoided if ever possible. I agree with you. It would have been much funnier without the Joey line. |
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She's new to it though. She seems to hate Ross