There's nothing inherently wrong with promiscuity, unless deceit is involved.

No I wouldn't say so.

Firstly, it's just a pretty standard thing friends or workmates or co-eds might banter about

"You're not really boyfriend material let's face it"

"Huh??? What the hell are you talking about I'm a real stud!" sort of thing

Secondly, there's the male pride factor

Thirdly, this is Chandler, a very self-absorbed and insecure character who is always obsessing about his flaws and what such-and-such means.

None of that means he was actually trying to seduce Monica at that point.

Yeah well, best friends, especially of the same gender, naturally tend to share the gory details when it comes to their relationships.

So what???

Let her be a fruitloop, then.

She wasn't doing any harm.

Joey was never openly deceitful unlike Barney in HIMYM or Charlie in Two and a Half Men

It wasn't her cat.

Oh do you have to log in? I had signed up back in my college days so it doesn't ask me to log in.

If you want you can register and download it though. It's an interesting read.

So there is nothing wrong with treating women like dirt ?

Promiscuity does not translate to treating women like dirt. Those are two very different things. Sure, someone may sometimes be promiscuous AND treat women like dirt (which arguably Joey sometimes did), but they are not the same thing.

For me the only time Joey comes across that unlikable is the Home Study episode. I find it as ridiculous as Joey speaking French

I think that Chandler could be just as hurtful to women as Joey.
Tricking the voicemail girl into sleeping with him, his treatment of Janice, humiliating his Co worker by telling their boss she was crazy.
That sort of thing.

Bert Bert Bert!!

I think they tried to make him a bit more unlikeable during the Kathy storyline but still Chandler came off worse obviously

Joey having no idea what to get Kathy for her birthday was just Joey being a bit dim rather than unlikable

On that subject Chandler bought Kathy (on behalf of Joey) Kathy's favourite childhood book The Velveteen Rabbit. Then in a much later series during the fancy dress episode where Chandler was dressed up as a giant pink rabbit that Monica got him she mentioned that Chandler's favourite childhood book was The Velveteen Rabbit.

Maybe both Chandler and Kathy loved that book

To say Chandler apparently had problems dating women he certainly had a few during the series. The ones you've listed plus Aurora, Kathy, and of course Monica.

Speaking of Janice, just how did they keep running into her in all these different places?

She was Chandler's online chat friend.
She was at the fertility place at the exact same time as Monica and Chandler.
She was having a baby at the exact same time as Rachel.
She was planning on buying a house that just happened to be next door to Monica and Chandler.

That's not coincidence, it's just plain weird. I know they felt they had to get her into episodes now and again but the way they did would surely have been considered weird by the Friends.


How did Joey not call that Social Worker back? She seems such a nice person.

And yes obviously Chandler is in the wrong by kissing Kathy whilst she's still in a relationship with Joey but it must have been so hard for him. He got on so well with Kathy and then Joey reveals he's seeing two women at the same time, Kathy and Casey, with no thought about the moral implications of doing this and then the other Friends decide to reveal to him after he tells them about kissing Kathy that "Joey probably would have moved aside if you'd just asked him". Yeah that's just what Chandler wanted to hear at that exact moment.

Chandler was in the wrong but the above circumstances made it extremely difficult for him.

That was the whole point! That was the joke! That wherever they turned, their annoying acquaintance seemed to be there.

That's why she had the catchphrase "Oh.My.God!" That's why there was always a slight pause before she made her entrance, as the truth slowly dawned on the Friends.

Exaggerated things do happen in sitcoms because it's funny.

Fair enough. Lol

I do admit I'm not a fan of Janice, or the episodes she appears in.

Of course the whole point of Janice is she's annoying. I just find her a bit too annoying as a character.

Why wouldn't he have mentioned that at the time he got the book for Kathy?

Maybe all his friends knew so never felt the need to mention it at that time.

It's more the way hes seeing the other girl at the same time I understand this is a plot device to make Chandlers case more understandable.

Ah! The Juxtaposition of Janice in the later episodes is akin to the Destruction of David and Ruination of Richard. They just serve to cause conflict and consternation, although with Janice it's more for comedy affect. They also in an possibly unintended way highlight how few meaningful relationships outside the group the "Friends" actually had.

On a side note, I really liked the scenes where she talked to Chandler about infertility and Rachel about being a single mother

To be fair, Phoebe doesn't just have a different opinion from him on some casual topic, she is critiquing the focus of his entire career as a scientist. Of course he tried to argue her into it, that's what academics do with each other!

Actually those scenes made me realise that Janice was actually a fairly nice person. The attitude of some of the others towards her was rather mean I always thought, especially Chandler (seasons 2 and 3 aside).

I actually didn't mind her voice or her laugh and wish that she had been written into more episides. An annual appearance after season 3 seemed rather inadequate.

I think it was interesting because the issue of Chandlers and Monicas conception issues were largely glossed over or dealt with through comedy, which for a sitcom is fine but it was nice to see someone outside the group speak honestly even if it was only for a second