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At the time I found the humour in the first few series of Friends to be quite refreshing. I struggle to watch it now but that's mainly because I rewatched it so many times in my 20s that it's now stale.
I think you can sometimes have this thing where a show is so successful that it defines a genre to the extent that the original is eventually is seen as cliched. What I mean is that Friends lead to a lot of shows trying to copying it's format and style of humour - so for someone that didn't watch it the first time round you look back and think "well this is all a bit boring/predictable". I actually have this problem with Seinfeld - I tried to watch it for the first time about 10 years ago and I was just bored. I made it half way through the third series and gave up. But I love Curb your Enthusiasm. I believe Marta Kauffman pretty much admitted that the first two series of Friends in particular were hugely influenced by Seinfeld. I always remember The One With Ross' Rage, and found it interesting that until that episode Ross really had no rage. It would've been a perfect storyline on the other hand for George Costanza. |
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The Friends seemed to spend a lot of time doing their laundry.
Why though - they never wore the same thing twice! |
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Stick with Seinfeld. The first series in particular is pretty slow. But around about series five it got hysterically funny. And of course, it came along before Friends.
I believe Marta Kauffman pretty much admitted that the first two series of Friends in particular were hugely influenced by Seinfeld. I always remember The One With Ross' Rage, and found it interesting that until that episode Ross really had no rage. It would've been a perfect storyline on the other hand for George Costanza. At the end of the season 3 Flashback episode Joey is introduced to Ross after the gang catches Ross and Phoebe making out. But Joey isn't introduced to Phoebe in this scene even though they hadn't met on screen. Should we assume that Joey and Phoebe had already met that night in Monica's apartment? |
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At the end of the routine episode, Joey kisses Janine.
Then at the start of the next episode, the Apothocary table episode, Joey comes running across to tell me gang he kissed her. It is heavily suggested that this is a direct continuation from the kiss we have seen in the previous episode, yet everyone is wearing different clothes. Also, I appreciate it is done to create the humour, but how unlikely is it that Rachel and Ross would purchase the exact same Apothocary table at pretty much the same time. It's not exactly a common item. |
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At the end of the routine episode, Joey kisses Janine.
Then at the start of the next episode, the Apothocary table episode, Joey comes running across to tell me gang he kissed her. It is heavily suggested that this is a direct continuation from the kiss we have seen in the previous episode, yet everyone is wearing different clothes. Also, I appreciate it is done to create the humour, but how unlikely is it that Rachel and Ross would purchase the exact same Apothocary table at pretty much the same time. It's not exactly a common item. |
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At the end of the routine episode, Joey kisses Janine.
Then at the start of the next episode, the Apothocary table episode, Joey comes running across to tell me gang he kissed her. It is heavily suggested that this is a direct continuation from the kiss we have seen in the previous episode, yet everyone is wearing different clothes. Quote:
Could be the next morning?
If it was the next morning then he wouldn't need to run back. |
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But doesn't someone ask Joey what happened next and Joey says "I came over to tell you guys", then Chandler says "So she is just waiting there for you?" and then Joey runs back. That to me means, as Paul1511 said, that this is the exact same kiss from the previous episode and he runs over to tell the others straight away leaving her just standing there.
If it was the next morning then he wouldn't need to run back. |
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Stick with Seinfeld. The first series in particular is pretty slow. But around about series five it got hysterically funny. And of course, it came along before Friends.
I believe Marta Kauffman pretty much admitted that the first two series of Friends in particular were hugely influenced by Seinfeld. I always remember The One With Ross' Rage, and found it interesting that until that episode Ross really had no rage. It would've been a perfect storyline on the other hand for George Costanza. |
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I think all episodes went downhill after Monica and Chandler got together, I really didn't like that pairing. After they got together everyone just turned into caricatures of themselves.
I pretty much stop watching it after that. I have seen some of the later episodes on repeats. I find them unbearable and the characters unrecognisable. Now when I rewatch I stop when they go to London( terrible episodes ). Everything after that I don't really even recognise as Friends. It's like they took a slightly above average sitcom and turned it in to a soap opera. The exact same thing has happened with TBBT -- which has never been as good as Friends anyway. |
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I feel the same.
I pretty much stop watching it after that. I have seen some of the later episodes on repeats. I find them unbearable and the characters unrecognisable. Now when I rewatch I stop when they go to London( terrible episodes ). Everything after that I don't really even recognise as Friends. It's like they took a slightly above average sitcom and turned it in to a soap opera. The exact same thing has happened with TBBT -- which has never been as good as Friends anyway. |
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I never really liked any of the 'off location specials'. London, Vegas, Barbados. All of these episodes were poor, maybe trying too hard. I preferred just the regular coffeehouse/apartment settings.
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In the Ross's Library Book episode Ross speaks in his weird English accent again. In the same episode, I must note how stilted Matthew Perry's accent is at the height of his addiction
Great gag when Joey walks up to his apartment, sees Janice and runs off though |
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I feel the same.
I pretty much stop watching it after that. I have seen some of the later episodes on repeats. I find them unbearable and the characters unrecognisable. Now when I rewatch I stop when they go to London( terrible episodes ). Everything after that I don't really even recognise as Friends. It's like they took a slightly above average sitcom and turned it in to a soap opera. The exact same thing has happened with TBBT -- which has never been as good as Friends anyway. |
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the only thing i'll give prais for the london eps were they were actually in london-barbados was an awful set and so was vegas
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I have seen all of Friends and, sure the first 5/6 series were good but then it went downhill very fast where by the time of the last series it was awful. However, for you to have said BIB - TBBT is a better show and, as far as I am concerned, majority of the characters are more realistic compared to the characters in Friends
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In the Ross's Library Book episode Ross speaks in his weird English accent again. In the same episode, I must note how stilted Matthew Perry's accent is at the height of his addiction
Great gag when Joey walks up to his apartment, sees Janice and runs off though Also his addiction phases played havoc with continuity. The last episode of one series where they are all at the beach house and he is constantly pestering Monica whether she see's him as boyfriend material he is skinny and ill but the first episode of the next series, which is a continuation, he is a normal weight, healthy and has lighter hair. The engagement episodes. Gets engaged to Monica end of series finale, healthy looking, first episode of next series, set at the same point in time, skinny and ill. His illness is further emphasised a few eps later in the series where they are taking the engagement announcement pictures and he can't smile properly. He looks his worst in that ep. |
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My enjoyment of an episode is lessened if it's an episode where Matthew Perry is looking skinny and ill. All I can think of is how sick and painful he looks.
Also his addiction phases played havoc with continuity. The last episode of one series where they are all at the beach house and he is constantly pestering Monica whether she see's him as boyfriend material he is skinny and ill but the first episode of the next series, which is a continuation, he is a normal weight, healthy and has lighter hair. The engagement episodes. Gets engaged to Monica end of series finale, healthy looking, first episode of next series, set at the same point in time, skinny and ill. His illness is further emphasised a few eps later in the series where they are taking the engagement announcement pictures and he can't smile properly. He looks his worst in that ep. |
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Yea it's uncomfortable viewing at times
Watching the one with Rachel's book why does Joey dress up as a vicar if the vicar was zeldas dad... Unless the book took a different turn... Yuck. Also probably griped about this before but Monicas parents engagement story doesn't fit with the "Ross the miracle baby doctors thought she barren" story |
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Two more gripes:
1) When Ross is haggling about the wedding reception with Emily's parents, they ask how can it be so expensive when it's being held at her parents' house. But they are clearly at a hotel with rooms as they all keep going back and there's a honeymoon suite. Then Emily's dad is doing tours of the wine cellar! 2) In The One With The Hypnosis Tape, it's really sexist! The tape is supposed to make Chandler into a 'strong, confident woman' - who keeps crying all the time! |
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Two more gripes:
1) When Ross is haggling about the wedding reception with Emily's parents, they ask how can it be so expensive when it's being held at her parents' house. But they are clearly at a hotel with rooms as they all keep going back and there's a honeymoon suite. Then Emily's dad is doing tours of the wine cellar! 2) In The One With The Hypnosis Tape, it's really sexist! The tape is supposed to make Chandler into a 'strong, confident woman' - who keeps crying all the time! 2 I still found quite funny. The joke of Chandler being a "strong, confident woman" is obvious and pulled off well |
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I love friends and watch it most days, here's a few gripes of mine:
1. Joey and chandler are huge Die Hard fans......so wouldn't they know Bruce Willis (Elizabeth's dad) On Ross's list of people he's allowed to sleep with he mentions Susan Sarandon (Jessica Lockhart). He also makes a table reservation under the name Winona Ryder (Rachel's Girl Kiss)2. In tow Emma's 1st birthday, Rachel makes a big fuss about everyone needing to be there, its such a big deal etc, yet her parents, sisters, or even Ben (Ross's son/Emma's step brother) aren't even there! 3. In the late thanksgiving episode when they cant get into Monica's apartment Rachel says she still has her old key.....surely the locks would have been changed when the door got knocked down when 'joey smelled gas' when Monica and chandler are on honeymoon |
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the last two i agree with first one think thats the joke hes not playing bruce willis hes a character
actually i heard bruce willis lost a bet with matthew perry and done friends for free |
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the last two i agree with first one think thats the joke hes not playing bruce willis hes a character
actually i heard bruce willis lost a bet with matthew perry and done friends for free |
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the last two i agree with first one think thats the joke hes not playing bruce willis hes a character
actually i heard bruce willis lost a bet with matthew perry and done friends for free |
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I love friends and watch it most days, here's a few gripes of mine:
1. Joey and chandler are huge Die Hard fans......so wouldn't they know Bruce Willis (Elizabeth's dad) On Ross's list of people he's allowed to sleep with he mentions Susan Sarandon (Jessica Lockhart). He also makes a table reservation under the name Winona Ryder (Rachel's Girl Kiss)2. In tow Emma's 1st birthday, Rachel makes a big fuss about everyone needing to be there, its such a big deal etc, yet her parents, sisters, or even Ben (Ross's son/Emma's step brother) aren't even there! 3. In the late thanksgiving episode when they cant get into Monica's apartment Rachel says she still has her old key.....surely the locks would have been changed when the door got knocked down when 'joey smelled gas' when Monica and chandler are on honeymoon "come on guys you know Rachel/Ross is upset her folks/ben can't come, don't say you can't make it either?" Such a small thing but would appease us loyal servants of the show haha |
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On Ross's list of people he's allowed to sleep with he mentions Susan Sarandon (Jessica Lockhart). He also makes a table reservation under the name Winona Ryder (Rachel's Girl Kiss)