Just thinking as they've had digs from Mumford & Sons, Paloma Faith and Jake Bugg all in the same week. Do you think that 1D aren't really that well liked in the music industry and if so why?

Well not totally they got nominated from the Brits...for Best Group and where probably 2nd/3rd in line to win it.

But, in terms of artists i am sure there's alot who think their success is disporportinate to their talent. I really don't think they care...the success is really insane.

To be fair, Bugg was right when he said they shouldn't be described as rock stars - they will never be more than a pop boyband.

And about them being dissed by other artists, I will just say this: I know it hurts them, but I think they shouldn't comment on every little thing via Twitter like babies. They have to deal with the fact that there will always be people who don't like their music or them personally.

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They seemed to take exception to Jake's comments!

I think they'll become more successful than S Club juniors

Oh okay, so it seems perfectly alright for Jake Bugg to diss them (in fact this isn't the only time he's dissed anyone) but unacceptable for them to say something back (not really even dissing him)?

Sorry but even though I hate 1D as any sensible girl should, no double standards.

With the men in suits no they make them alot of money.


With other artists yes definitely so and I understand why most have worked hard to get where they are and are more artistically driven. So a bunch if mediocre pretty boys having success disproportionate to there talent and little work they had to do us bound to piss them off.

Difference is Bugg has talent and credibility... so no, they can't say anything.

Hey, I didn't say that Jake was right to say 1D must know they are terrible - that is wrong. I just said that I agree with him when he thinks it is ridiculous they are called rock stars because of their after-show antics.

But I am talking in general here - 1D are well known for bitching about every little thing on Twitter.

I mean, Liam saying this to Boy George:

u just keep wearing ur strange hats and enjoy yourself my little Georgie pie... It's still not cool you just look wierd."

And before you say anything, I know Boy George dissed them, but this response is so childish ad pathetic. Same goes to their stupid conflict with Piers Morgan and The Wanted. And Liam bitching about the security at Empire State Building. Just grow up a little

I think the issue is they have an over inflated self of opinion and are surrounded by yes men. And your right they need to take a step back and realise they are one in a long line of Boy Bands who were all bigger and better than them i mean they are not even as big as the spice girls yet see themselves an the next beatles

That's all very subjective. I think Bugg has about the same level of talent as a block of wood tap dancing. If anything he's copycat more or less. A #1 album is no indication of success too especially if it dropped like a brick straight after.

I find it odd though how so many people dislike One Direction. What have they done really? Become successful? Is that the only reason why all these artists dislike them?

Take it from the point of view that you have worked your arse off and have finally attained a level of success to be overshadowed by 5 boys with a designer haircut you'd be annoyed

It's still in the top five!

1D are getting undeserved success and it just angers singer's like Paloma & Jake who obviously want or think they deserve more success than they are getting despite the fact their music isn't mainstream enough to do so.

Mumford & Sons, Lana Del Rey etc despite having a different sound from the common mainstream sound, their sound is universal unlike Bugg and Faith who obviously have a selective fan base.

They are pretty damn massive.

I've never heard them refer to themselves as rockstars or pretend they're the next anything. The press does all that crap.

There's nothing wrong with what they are, a fun pop group. It's such a cliche to slag them off. Every band/group/artist has an audience. And they seem to work very hard.

They have had a pretty easy ride to the top in all honesty. I mean it was only sheer luck that they were even put together; it could have been five different pretty boys on another day and they'd probably just have been as sucessfull. I'd be annoyed if I had worked my ass off only to be overshadowed by them, plus they generally do seem to think they're a lot more talented than they actually are (Liam's the only one I'd say who has a good voice, Niall and Harry are OK, Zayn has his moments and Louis is just piss poor). Well, to be fair, I can't speak for the other four but I went to Louis school whilst he was there and the ego on the boy back then was enormous I hate to think what it's like now

Jake Bugg, though he seems to be an arrogant little sod, kind of hit the nail on the head with his comments I thought. They aren't rockstars and to be honest they must know they're a bit crap or at least the kind of music they put out may not be down to their individual taste - how many lads their age actually enjoy music like One Direction and Justin Bieber? I don't know any

I'll give them credit for their success as they've done very well and their cover of One Way or Another (though not good) could've been a lot worse - but they will never be like The Beatles. The Beatles have so many songs that will live forever but will people still be singing What Makes You Beautiful 50 years from now? Doubt it. It's a very good pop song but it's nothing all that special

One Direction have a shelf life and Cowell knows it, he's seen boybands come and he's seen boybands go. Once they've split the only person I can see doing well in terms of a solo career is Liam; he's the most talented in terms of vocal ability, he's the only one with any writing credits on the albums, he's arguably the best looking and the only one with the potential to be popular outside of screaming teenage girls (He's kind of the Robbie Williams of One Direction in that sense)

I actually reckon they'll have a similar career path to The Spice Girls in terms of America anyway: Huge for 2 years, implode within six months and the be pretty much forgotten about a few years down the line

As far as I know they all have credits on this album.louis has the most writing credits on their recent album,

Didn't know that, I'll give them some more credit for that then shows they at least put some creative input in and aren't just puppets

It's why I respect Bieber in a weird way, he puts a lot into what he's done and actually worked damn hard to get to where he is now

No, they are liked, the stars you mentioned are just bitter and jealous.

Now go to the point of view of those five boys, who are surrounded by industry snobs always slagging them off in the press? I mean EVERYONE seems to have a go at them, off the top of my head, The Wanted, Boy George, Paloma, Jake, Noel, Piers have all had their jibes at them. Don't you think that's a bit overwhelming especially if those same artists are people you actually listening to or even look up to? Now, I'm not saying that they're talented but please put yourself in their shoes and see what it's like for them.

Also, they're more artists in the world with no talent than there are those with. Take Cheryl Cole for example. I don't see any artists criticizing the fact that she ruins every song she's sung. Or take Kesha. No one insults her that she's off key half the time. Or take the Spice Girls and Girls Aloud - most of the members can't even sing! Then you have five boys who can actually (not very well) but at least they can and they do write their own music. So c'mon! Please be fair.

If anything people are basically confirming that these angry artists are simply jealous of their success which is understandable, but nonetheless it is jealousy!

I'm not disregarding them on the basis they are a fun pop act but i'll refer to the Spice Girls again as cheesey frivolous and fun as they were they worked for what they had knew what they were and appreciated it.

My issue with 1D is this media fascination and this attitude they exude that they are not only widely successful but the best British act in years. And considering they have had a pretty easy ride to the top a little graciousness would not go amiss. Yes live it enjoy it but to all intents and purposes they can be little shits and seem to think of themselves as the second musical coming.

Yes there are many less talented artists in the world and they know it they are aware of their shortcomings (save for cheryl i dislike her for the same reason) but put yourself in the shoes of someone who has worked damn hard to get to whre they were and have bags of talent yet are overshadowed and snubbed in favour of the latest cash cow i'd be annoyed too.

Yet they have to realize that their music is not mainstream! They may have bag loads of talent and many music appreciators may love them (I love Laura Mvula for example). However, do you honestly think that the music appreciators in this world outnumber the casual music listeners or the mainstream buyers? It must be annoying to those artists but in the same way 1D must understand they're not rock stars (which I actually don't think they've ever claimed to be), those angry artists have to realize that they're not going to appeal to the huge casual music listener market/mainstream market. Laura probably won't be appreciated for the same reason but she understands her music genre to be something completely new. Jessie Ware understands this too. The rest should accept that too.

And Jake is a newbie so honestly I don't get it. Why is he angry? That One Direction is so successful after two years of being signed and that he isn't within 3 months? What's his reason?

Emeli Sande and Ben Howard have had it incredibly rough on the way up, but I don't see a shred of evidence (in spite of the fact I hate Emeli) that they are angry or vocally bicker about other more successful people.

Writing credits don't really mean much anymore. A singer can add one word to a song already composed by someone else and get credit.

On a personal level, I doubt it. People generally seem to like them, from journalists to DJ's and that does them no end of good. I doubt Jake Bugg has spent much time with them.

But the music industry is a bitter one. A significant proportion of the industry believes that the customer is always wrong because they aren't buying what they should be. They disparage women, young and old, despite the fact that they actually pay for their music. I think it rankles some sorts that for all their superior attitudes and the ass kissing they get from their peers, the public just don't care so much. There are an awful lot of like minded people in the music business. Generally they don't think like their customers.

Jake Bugg or One Direction? Who'll be remembered in 10 years time? Well seeing as Jake Bugg is best known for slagging off One Direction...

Then there's the Simon Cowell factor. He's popular with some people, mainly those he has worked with (and many of them now run major labels) but he's also extremely unpopular among a large swathe of the industry which hates pop music. They didn't like Pete Waterman and they don't care much for his protege.

Mumford and Sons were also slagged off by Mr Bugg. The lesson is that nobody slags off non-entities, the target is always success.