Well, the easy thing to do, is not read the stories! I'm not a huge 1D fan and I only really paid attention to them when they released their last song. I gather they were pretty famous before this, but I would have only been able to name one of their songs and wouldn't have recognised any of them if I'd have tripped over them in the street! This was because I didn't read any articles on them/ watch any shows they appeared on. As somebody else said, why some posters are so vitriolic about them baffles me. Boybands have been around for years and they'll aways have a place in the market. If you don't like them don't read articles about them and just ignore them!

I work in a store and they have a stand in our dental aisle of their faces plastered on a board with toothpaste, and different brushes that no one ever buys, but it is in the middle of the aisle and is in the way anytime I try to use the ladder. I don't even hate them, but every time I see that thing I just want to kick it. It's so obnoxious. All our icarly, barbie, spongebob, and the rest of the kids tooth stuff is all in one place, but then here comes 1D in the middle of the at bed bath and beyond. Probably irrelevant to this thread, but they really are everywhere haha.

Hey, even if you don't read the stories, it is hard not to notice headlines as they are always situated in the center. And don't tell me it is normal to see 10 news about one band in one day - I haven't seen that before...

Why? There are millions of teenagers in this country (like me) that enjoy and make the type of music that he makes. And long may he make it. In regards to his comments, I think the music industry needs someone like Bugg who will diss every artist they don't like. As evidenced at the BRITs, there seems to be no Jarvis Cocker/Liam Gallagher type character aside from Bugg.

But I'm a metalhead/rocker and have always thought this

Let's see what Metacritic reckons:

http://www.metacritic.com/music/jake-bugg/jake-bugg
Jake Bugg (average 81/100)

http://www.metacritic.com/music/take.../one-direction
Take Me Home (average 69/100)

Well there we have it ladies and gentleman, Metacritic say James Bugg is better... No point in debating anything One Direction related ever again.

This is relevant to the topic though, critics are part of the industry, 1D are not very popular within the critics review so they are not popular with everyone in the industry.

Whilst it's amusing to make such sweeping statements based on a review, Bugg is better than One Direction... it really doesn't need to be debated.

On the other hand, I think it shows how (little) he has been brought up. If you don't like something, fair enough, you can voice that opinion. But what he said was spiteful.

The industry is full of people like him and said people never last

You're absolutely right... that Keith Richards was soon forgotten about.

And that punk from Woking - Paul Weller his name?

That's a bit of a stretch, he's part of a legendary band. Plus, he was probably off his face when he made certain comments

He's been having pops at everyone for years though... even before his band became of legendary status. And he still does to this day.

To be fair, it is easier as part of a group. All groups have their individual personalities and the media seem to encourage that. But when a solo artist starts mouthing off, it can close a lot of doors for them.

But that link was just for USA records (as I said in my post!) They have made a bomb from marketing products and endorsements and ticket sales. They made the sunday times rich list for music artists under 30 last year and they will have moved right up this year. My point was in response to yours that they won't be making much money and I disagree they have made plenty cash even with 5 of them and money going to song writers etc

It's funny because you people are trying to argue One Direction are just after the money completely uninterested in credibility and releasing good music and then saying about how they don't earn anything.

Perhaps they just enjoy singing/entertaining and they are just taking the chances that they've been given like we all do in our individual fields?

I completely don't accept the whole "if you don't write songs you're not talented" argument. Song writing is a separate skill therefore a separate talent and I don't see how artists who don't have this skill are less worthy of being successful? Lots of people can't sing but write amazing songs and they are never discussed saying how they shouldn't be allowed to write for other people so why the other way round?

Yes they do work very hard at getting their hair right, so they can look pretty for the tweenies. They have been fed by the Cowell silver spoon. they are not real artists, they are autotuned manufactured crap & are an insult to true artists / bands who spend hours on instruments, should it be keyboard / drums / or making their fingers bleed on the guitar, just so they can make a living. The only thing 1D probably spend hours doing, is looking in a mirror. They probably wouldn't even go near a guitar, due to being in fear of breaking a nail.

I cannot stand the majority of boy groups as they are not the genre of music that I listen to, but my little finger has got more respect for the likes of Ronan Keating, Gary Barlow & Robbie Williams, than it will ever have for 1D

What a load of tosh! Yes they have been fed by the silver spoon of Cowell just as other artists have been fed by their PR/label. Music is a business just as any other business.

Niall plays the guitar and has done on stage for most of their concerts so please get your facts right.

These boys were given an opportunity and have taken it with everything they have and why not. Wouldn't most of us in the same situation. Ronan, Gary and Robbie were all given the same opportunity too and none of them were more talented at the start of their careers than the 1D boys. They evolved in to the artists they are today

Do you really think Cowell (the astute business man) hands them money for looking in a mirror all day long. How laughable your comment is. These boys work damm hard. It may not be comparable to doctors, nurses and police but it is still hard work with very long days of interviews, radio tours, magazine shoots and their world wide tour for the next 10months and fitting in recording another album

You may not like them but they haven't got to this level of success by just looking pretty. The 12 yr olds may buy that but it certainly won't wash with their legion of fans in their mid 20's.

So please do tell me what *real* artists are? Sounds a bit elitist to me and on a par with classical music snobs who think any other genreof music is not music

But they started off in cheesy boybands and then when they had success, they got older and more mature and got involved with the creative stuff and became credible, have you seen take thats video for sure or pray or take that and party? Boyzone's first appearance on the late late show? Who honestly watched them and thought future credible artists? Who thought Gary would have an obe and ivor novello awards and respect in the industry?Who would have thought robbie would still get number 1's at this age or that ronan would be a talent show judge. We don't know what they will go on and do after 1D. Charlie from busted is in a metal group apparently, who would have thought that?1D could go on and change direction in future. One of the members could go on and release music like Jake bugg's for all we know(although they wouldn't get respect for it).

What I find a bit odd, is that 1d never ever look comfortable performing on stage.
Rabbits caught in headlights syndrome.

They were not given the same opportunity. Gary has worked his way up in the industry since he was a kid. At 11, he started singing in men clubs and at 15 he entered songwriting competitions, gaining praise from the likes of Justin Hayward.
When TT was put together for him, the boys had to work harder than anyone else to get noticed - I don't think they enjoyed doing the gay-clubs, one of their manager's "brilliant ideas". They had restrictions none of the current bands have. 1D appear somewhere, there's immediately a news about that. It took the TT boys 2 years to get noticed and they actually did what you call hard work, not these teens nowadays. I saw them at the Brits and I was unimpressed. It's worrying when 40something men can put on a greater show than the young ones, who, given nowadays resources, should be innovative.

I'm taking my kids to see them later on today. I go with the attitude that they are what they are - I don't expect to be blown away. I do expect it to be frothy and fun.

I'm fortunate that I have been to hundreds of gigs over the years and, with the exception of Nirvana have seen all the artists I've wanted to see. Current worst gig ever for me was The Fall at the Forum in London - 1994 ish it would have been.

Will One Direction be better than The Fall? Will little Harry Styles do for me than moody Mark E Smith? I'll let you know later!

With pleasure.

Foo Fighters
Evanescence
Within Temptation
Green Day
Slash
Ozzy Osbourne
P!nk - A lady who has more talent in 1 strain of her hair, than the whole of 1D.


Those amongst many others worked more harder to get to where they are, than some little boys in a reality TV show.

Nothing wrong with elitism.

After watching some of the Brits I wish there was a hell of a lot more of it.

justin beiber made £10 million in america last year, they made 1 million each despite selling more records, i stated they will be making more than jake bugg but not as much more as you would think