[fifitrixibelle]

Originally Posted by MissCulture

Why...? her kids are obviously very well cared for. Junior is turning into a right little pain though, thanks to daddy Pete allowing him to act up in front of the cameras all the time. She's a good mum - just because you don't like a woman does not mean you have to call her a bad mother.

So it's never crossed your mind that Junior "acting" up has naff all to do with his mother bringing endless random strangers into his home, who puts her self and her skinny, vain arse first every time, who listens to his mother tell the latest penis that it's "all about her and not to forget it", who listens to his mother talk to her own mother and other's being spoken to like sh*t.
He watches whilst she can not have a day out with the children without whinging, whining, texting, and rushing off for some dentist emergency or other...in other words not a rat's arse about anyone but herself and ensuring that EVERYTHING is about her??
Interestingly all those that want to defend this skank can only define being a "good" mother can only muster the preposterous evidence that others take care of her kids, for which she pays with her grubby money she earns being a tramp, a sleaze and exposing her children to an unstable homelife, where she is frequently absent or dragging home the next penis.
If she were living in social housing and doing the same without the money to pay others to do the grunt work of childcare..would she still be a "good" mum.

[Fatsia]

Originally Posted by Blondie X

I think the only time she's looked really happy is when she was with Pete.

Others will disagree but, imo, he is the true love of her life and she will never get over him. Every ridiculous stunt she has pulled in the last few years has been a reaction to him daring to leave her.

I don't agree. I'm certainly no expert on her life, but I did watch her get together with Peter Andre in the jungle, and even as it unfolded, it seemed that he genuinely felt affection towards her, whilst her robot-like mind was ticking over and seeing pound signs. I think the true love of her life was probably Dwight Yorke, and after he abandoned her and Harvey it broke her. When you look at photos of her over the years, that's when her eyes died. [IMO]

Originally Posted by Saltydog1955

She provides for her kids financially, but bringing new men into their lives on a regular basis and jaunts abroad for beauty treatments sure as hell isn't providing them with anything emotionally. They may well have their father and grandmother around if she isn't, but that's no substitute for a mother. She has a disabled child - so do many other mothers without the means and money that KP has. I'll save my admiration for them if you don't mind.

And just why did you have to bring Andre into things? This is about Katie Price, not him.

I do think it's difficult to have a sensible conversation about Jordan and her parenting skills without bringing Peter Andre into it. I think she used him just to keep her name in the papers, and it worked. Having seen about 5 minutes of their joint reality show, I have never seen anything like it - she was unspeakably nasty to him. I don't know the other side to the story and don't much care, but she doesn't seem to have any love or affection in her whatsoever. Of course, it's entirely possible that the few moments I saw were entirely unrepresentative of her behaviour as a whole.

Originally Posted by The Prumeister

I imagine a lot of kids of famous parents, as they grow older, proudly google their parents work to get an idea of how they became famous..

I'm sure Junior, Princess and Harvey will be absolutely enthralled and proud at their Mother's finest work:

Dane Bowers' toe
The mobile phone up the foo foo
Various plastic titty and mi*ge shots
Her progression from very pretty young woman to appallingly disfigured plastic, nylon haired, creosoted, caterpillar eyebrowed drag queen esque monster
Her various 'books'
Her columns criticising any woman who dares to be prettier and more desirable than her - i.e. Kelly Brook

Gosh, they will be delighted and will in no way be teased by their schoolmates

This. The only time you see her in the press is when she's being f*cked on a balcony or is semi-naked in a club... what a delightful legacy.

Originally Posted by MeMe122

Congratulations to Katie. I don't understand this whole thing about her being a 'bad mother'. She may not be mother Theresa but she does love her kids no doubt. Some people have also mentioned that she does not put her kids first??? - I think she does - When she first had Harvey she took him with her to work everyday, I know this because I watched her BBC documentary. She's providing for her children and at the end of the day it's her life and unless you're perfect you should judge other people because ultimately this situation could happen to you (Marry more than once). Finally, since when was having a bit of 'help' a reason to call someone a bad mother???? Yes, her mother helps her out because KP is not the average person and hasn't got the average 9-5 job. Also, if anyone of you have seen her signings she usually takes the kids with her, I don't understand this whole 'she's a bad mother' - shes not the best but definetly not the worst either.

A decent mother would perhaps have stopped selling her life to the public at the point where her children might begin to be affected by it. Do you honestly believe she's utterly in love with this latest one, and was desperate to have his child? What I do believe is that she desperately wanted to increase her public shelf-life. She was 'desperately' trying for a baby with old bag-of-spanners-face Reid, then again with the last pretty boy... now BINGO.

I think it's so sad. She was quite a pretty girl who could never have imagined what she would turn into. I wonder what the 1995 version of her would say to today's version.

[MeMe122]

Originally Posted by MissCulture

What mess...

Who's laughing...?

And if I had her bank balance I wouldn't care if people split their sides! go file a report to social services if you are so concerned about her kids

I 100% agree. LOL! They could use various clippings from daily mail as their sources.

[MrsOrin]

Is she sure she is pregnant and it not the vodka bottle lid floating around inside her?

[Lorise]

Katie Price is pregnant again "I'm so happy I can't believe I get to bring another life into the world to nurture & love it" said her nanny!

Saw this tweet on Twitter thought it was funny haha


Being a bad parent doesn't just mean you are hurting them in a physical way, my ex loves our son i know that, but he never puts him first, he only sees him for 2hrs every two weeks as it clashes with his season ticket to his fav footie team, now when my son was young(KPs kids ages) it never dawned on him but now he is a teenager it hurts him and every fortnight i get the aftermath of his visit with his dad and the why doesn't he love me enough chat...i tell him his dad does love him (as much as it kills me as i see my sons pain the next time he lets him down) so just because KPs kids are happy now...don't think that it won't effect them in later life.

[The Prumeister]

Originally Posted by MissCulture

What mess...

Who's laughing...?

And if I had her bank balance I wouldn't care if people split their sides! go file a report to social services if you are so concerned about her kids

If you can't see what a mess her sorry life is then I'm not going to start telling you.

Who's laughing? Most sentient people who see this repugnant skank as nothing but a media desperado who will stop at nothing to get attention. This latest stunt is nothing but attention seeking. She's no more in love with him than you or I are - he's just a convenient penis and excuse.

If you think it's acceptable to introduce bloke after bloke after bloke into your kid's lives (1 of whom needs stability and security due to his condition) then fair enough - we obviously have different ideas about parenting.

You brought social services into this - no mention of them from me.

As for her bank balance The rate she spends, it won't last forever. There's more to life than money - self respect, dignity etc...

[NotaTypo]

Originally Posted by The Prumeister

I imagine a lot of kids of famous parents, as they grow older, proudly google their parents work to get an idea of how they became famous..

I'm sure Junior, Princess and Harvey will be absolutely enthralled and proud at their Mother's finest work:

Dane Bowers' toe
The mobile phone up the foo foo
Various plastic titty and mi*ge shots
Her progression from very pretty young woman to appallingly disfigured plastic, nylon haired, creosoted, caterpillar eyebrowed drag queen esque monster
Her various 'books'
Her columns criticising any woman who dares to be prettier and more desirable than her - i.e. Kelly Brook

Gosh, they will be delighted and will in no way be teased by their schoolmates

BINGOOOOO!!!

I was waiting for those to pop up. Surprised it took as many pages as it did!

Apple was taken by Gwinnie and Chris. KP could call her new accessory Samsung!

[Rose*~*]

I'm sure her kids would love mummy to have a little less money to spend on nails, hair, keeping up the orange skin, botox etc. so they could spend more time together. Parenting isn't about throwing money at them, it's about spending actual time with them.

[Julie_Evans]

Originally Posted by MissCulture

Why...? her kids are obviously very well cared for. Junior is turning into a right little pain though, thanks to daddy Pete allowing him to act up in front of the cameras all the time. She's a good mum - just because you don't like a woman does not mean you have to call her a bad mother.

I never used the term bad mother, you did .

And how do you know for sure that she's a good mum?

[Kay2000]

Originally Posted by MissCulture

There were some pics of the two of them lying on a beach on their honeymoon in the DM couple of weeks back and I thought 'bun in oven' back then due to the obvious little bulge she sported. This baby predates the marriage Im sure.

If that was a baby bump you saw, then surely it would not be Kevs

[Saltydog1955]

Originally Posted by Fatsia

I do think it's difficult to have a sensible conversation about Jordan and her parenting skills without bringing Peter Andre into it. I think she used him just to keep her name in the papers, and it worked. Having seen about 5 minutes of their joint reality show, I have never seen anything like it - she was unspeakably nasty to him. I don't know the other side to the story and don't much care, but she doesn't seem to have any love or affection in her whatsoever. Of course, it's entirely possible that the few moments I saw were entirely unrepresentative of her behaviour as a whole.

To be fair, it is HER having the child, absolutely nothing to do with Peter Andre. His parenting skills won't come into this child's upbringing.

[NotaTypo]

Originally Posted by Julie_Evans

I never used the term bad mother, you did .

And how do you know for sure that she's a good mum?

She still has joint custody of them. If it could be proven she wasn't a good mother, surely it would have been by now?

[Blondie X]

Originally Posted by Saltydog1955

To be fair, it is HER having the child, absolutely nothing to do with Peter Andre. His parenting skills won't come into this child's upbringing.

Absolutely. He has no relevance to this subject what so ever and there is not a single valid argument for his name being dragged in or this turning into he said/she said thread

[scone]

Originally Posted by shanders

Ok ok we get it.
You're Team Katie

Wrong

[Fatsia]

Originally Posted by Saltydog1955

To be fair, it is HER having the child, absolutely nothing to do with Peter Andre. His parenting skills won't come into this child's upbringing.

No, but we can't comment on this latest penis' parenting skills, as he is as yet untested, and in order to comment on hers, we can surely only draw upon how she has behaved previously? My point was that she uses whoever is nearest in order to prolong her fame; in that case it was PA, then once she had the children she used them. IMO, this is no different.

[Julie_Evans]

Originally Posted by NotaTypo

She still has joint custody of them. If it could be proven she wasn't a good mother, surely it would have been by now?

I haven't said she wasn't a good mother.

[Saltydog1955]

To be a good mother, you have to give time and love to your children and put them first.

Katie might 'love' them in her odd way, but ultimately it's all about her and what she wants. Classic narcissistic behavour. She's not downright bad. If she was she would be guilty of far more than just being selfish and doing her own thing most of the time, but she's far from being a good mother in the strictest sense of the term.

Having loads of cash and giving your kids material things doesn't mean you're a 'good' mum.

[Saltydog1955]

Originally Posted by Fatsia

No, but we can't comment on this latest penis' parenting skills, as he is as yet untested, and in order to comment on hers, we can surely only draw upon how she has behaved previously? My point was that she uses whoever is nearest in order to prolong her fame; in that case it was PA, then once she had the children she used them. IMO, this is no different.

Sorry Fatsia, I disagree.

PA is nothing to do with this child. Let's not turn this into a 'who's worse' thing.

I've seen the Twitter pics of the kids 'cooking with Kev', and he may well be good with them, but ultimately, I think he's just a hired impregnator who won't be around past next Christmas.

[The Prumeister]

Originally Posted by NotaTypo

She still has joint custody of them. If it could be proven she wasn't a good mother, surely it would have been by now?

If it could be proven she was it would surely have been proven by now???

[The Prumeister]

Originally Posted by NotaTypo

BINGOOOOO!!!

I was waiting for those to pop up. Surprised it took as many pages as it did!

Apple was taken by Gwinnie and Chris. KP could call her new accessory Samsung!

I'm sure there's a whole back catalogue of proud that we haven't seen....... Or not as the case almost certainly will be.

[Fizgig]

Originally Posted by MissCulture

Why...? her kids are obviously very well cared for. Junior is turning into a right little pain though, thanks to daddy Pete allowing him to act up in front of the cameras all the time. She's a good mum - just because you don't like a woman does not mean you have to call her a bad mother.

So you think her getting even with Alex was more important than their state of mind? The Vodka bottle revelation is one thing Princess & Junior's peers won't let them forget when they get a bit older. Would a good mother do that to them?

[Kay2000]

God help that child, she still can not get her husbands name right

[cookie_princess]

So that is 4 kids by 3 men!! Very classy!!!

[Saltydog1955]

Originally Posted by Kay2000

God help that child, she still can not get her husbands name right

The Sun columnist — previously married to singer Peter Andre and cross-dressing cage fighter Alex Reid — revealed she had consulted a psychic before tying the knot.
She said: “I saw a medium who told me I’d already met the person I was going to marry. She also said his name was Kevin.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...cs-advice.html

So she thought 'Kevin? Keiran - that's good enough!' which accounts for him being called 'Kevin' by FM's on here.

[Stardust365]

On the subject of Katie being a good mum.... can you seriously imagine her getting up at the crack of dawn each morning to make the kids breakfast, then washing and dressing them, making sure they've got everything they need for school, then taking them to school... coming back, tidying up, putting the washing on.... ALL BY HERSELF? Without the aid of a friend, relative or nanny to chip in? Can you imagine her picking them up from school, making their dinner, playing with them, reading to them, bathing them and putting them to bed... ALL BY HERSELF? I've yet to see Katie spend any time with her kids without having a tribe of helpers/friends and relatives by her side. I'm NOT saying that makes her a BAD mother, but to call her a good mother must mean those of us who do all of this and more without the aid of helpers must be totally amazing! lol

I'm in no doubt that she loves her kids but I fail to see how she manages to spend any quality time with them when she has so much to fit in around her almost daily hair appointments, nails, spray tans, dental issues, shopping, work outs surgeries, boyfriends, regular holidays w/o the kids and the odd business/work meeting she has to go to.

Oh and imo, Alex Reid was a F/U to Pete... (as in, look see how quickly I got over you) Leandro was a F/U to Alex... and Kieran is a F/U to Leandro. And the woman is a pathological liar!

She may like to think she's following in the footsteps of Elizabeth Taylor, but she's more like a female Darren Day to me lol