A miracle.

Even Jayne and Chris's demonstration seemed very ordinary and nothing special to me. Marvellous though they are, I have just seen them enough times and they are becoming a bit repetitious.

Strictly's gone downmarket. it tried going for more and more gimicks and panto, but then retreated into putting in attractive males to win over some younger viewers. Its also gained because X factor jumped several sharks and became nothing to do with good singing.

The problem TV has is that everything has been done before and attempts to make things more dramatic tend to dumb things down and lose the viewers they have. people also seem to be happy watching youtubes of sheep throwing, or doing whatever else they do instead now. Big Brother and the Bill died, the major soaps and the Apprentice, DOI and X factor are losing viewers.Casualty is in need of shock therapy. IAC looks very stale except when they find a really good group. The big shows all have the same problem that most perms have been seen before. There's not much else left - you can''t have even more murder dramas, and even history has now been used for most of its big stories. When anyone does come up with a good new idea its usually followed by lots of clones so it soon becomes over familiar.You can't have ever more shows about the Titanic, the Ripper, Henry V111, department store owners, prisoner of war camps, aristrocratic families with servants, or cooking shows........

DOI could be quite well placed to carry on because it can perm its celebs and it has a vast range of music and stories to perform to, plus a range of moves, and potential tests to be met. Its also got an inherent danger and wow factor that the other shows lack. It has problems because its programmed for too many adverts, and needs time for enough contenders for a good compettion and to fill the schedule, but its already moved to reduce the numbers - which is about all it can do. It doesn't manage to do as well as it should - because it doesn't come up with enough really good routines, doesn't use its pros to provide even better demonstrations, and its judges have lost the plot and spend most of their time criticising the choregraphy, and praising basic skating and dancing skills that are secondary to the show's purpose to entertain. The result is that they now seem to be trying to turn what should be their best and only 3 contender competition into a dull procession for their third unexciting male winner in a row.

not true since series 8 the rating have been improving and improving since they revamped the show, i don't think that the olympians had anything to do with it really.

See this is why viewer ratings are down, I'm not targeting you, im just using you as an example.

Honestly the amount of adverts itv show, people just record it and FF adverts, therefore don't vote either.

Add that to the awkward time that DOI is on (I always find myself looking at the time and realising that DOI has been on for 10 minutes already.

It's completely ITVs fault why it's failing, not the show itself.

I think of itv were to move the main show to Saturday night and keep the results on a Sunday at an early time I think the ratings may rise. Also with fewer ad breaks because on Sunday there were 5 dances that were spread out over an hour and a half which is just ridiculous.

It wouldn't surprise me if T&D have already negotiated one more series, because next year is the 30th anniversary of their olympic gold and they'll probably want DOI to last until then. I would imagine that they're probably planning something fairly spectacular for the DOI tour next year. After that, I think DOI will be cancelled.

There are many advantages to pre-recording shows. Not only can you fast forward the ads, you can also pause when you have something to do, and you can back up and see something again if you missed a detail.

Quote:

"Skating legends Torvill and Dean have promised Dancing On Ice fans that this is not the last series of the ITV show. However, in an interview with The Daily Star Christopher Dean said that he and Jayne Torvill are planning to be back for the next two years at least. He said: “We are very hopeful we will be back for the ninth series next year and then the tenth the year after that"

This is a typical PR statement, and they could hardly say anything else, but they don't sound all that sure.

I think that last year's series of Dancing on Ice was by far the best, they had very good skaters right from the beginning, and nearly all of the skaters had personality. Saying that though, I do think that this years judging panel is the best it has ever been

I think strictly did benefit from the hype after the Olympics last year. It was a great coup to get two of the biggest stars who also happen to be good looking. Having a woman who was more curvy who could dance also made it entertaining. I do think those two factors really helped the show. I would be suprised if it retains the same viewing figures next year but I could be proven wrong.
Anyway, DOI should definitely take a rest and could come back twice as strong in two years

I agree, I've thought for years that Dancing on Ice would be better off on a Saturday, especially as there isn't much other Saturday TV for it to compete with for the majority of the series. Also, having an ad break after every single performance is just stupid, they need to either cut the ad breaks or get each couple to perform twice once a certain number of people have been eliminated (not perform twice in a row), they could have everybody perform once, with an ad break after every other performance, and then they could all perform a different routine, again, with an ad break every 2 skaters, just to keep the show the right amount of time.

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"For a show like ours, which is on for an hour-and-a-half, we are up against people who record it so they can fast-forward all the ad breaks.”

I can't see why they said "up against". Why would they care if people skipped the ads?

Because ITV's programming depends on people watching the ads. That's how they make the money.

Yes, I understand elementary economics, but I still don't see that they are "up against" other shows.. People who skip the ads on this show will skip them on any show, so where is the competition with other shows?

He didn't say they were up against other shows he said they are up against people recording the show to avoid the adverts yes the same people will do that regardless of the show but that is the battle he is saying they are facing not that people are watching another show but that people are simply recording and watching it minus ad breaks therefore not watching the live show making figures go down. IMO DOI probably in total still has the same viewing figures it has had previously but you can not get a true estimation because a large amount of the viewers are watching it on Sky+ etc so not really contributing to the official figures.

I do agree that DOI would benefit from a year (or even 2) break & return refreshed and "new".

But can't agree the olympians necessarily helped either DOI or SCD. Louis Smith proved himself a worthy winner by overcoming his lack of seeming personality & dancing well. The cyclist (sorry, can't remember her name) added nothing to the show. Likewise I'd never heard of Beth or Luke until DOI, and don't know anyone else who had either, so they were hardly great for the ratings.

You can't watch much sport if you've never heard of Beth.

Loved Victoria on SCD

You haven't heard of Beth, have you been living on another planet?

I think they are turning more to sports stars because, as I said before, they are running out of real celebrities. This show really does have the smell of death about it.

Not sure if you mean it that way but it comes across as quite disparaging.

These shows have always had sports stars though I think both Strictly & DOI probably deliberately set out to get some of the London 2012 Olympians which is understandable. At the end of the day you need a range of stars to appeal to as wide an audience as possible and that includes sports stars as well as soap stars, music stars, TV presenters etc.

Surely a sports star who has worked hard and achieved goals is a much better celebrity than someone who has is famous merely for being famous and causing mayhem on one reality tv show or another and not having any discernable talent.

IMO the sports stars are the truer celebs and have earned the right to respect and celeb status.

I also find your comment a tad disrespectul to all those who are working and training to be a success in their chosen sports field. My only possible exception to this is footballers as that seems to be purely about money and fame and not much else these days.

I'd call the Vatican but there's no Pope at the moment so who can deal with miracles until they have a new Pope?

As for DOI, I really think the show needs to be put to bed. It's had its day now and it has become stale and robotic. I watched the figure skating championships on Eurosport over the weekend and that was much more enjoyable than watching a bunch of zelebs trying to skate. DOI always smacked of cheap and tacky to me.

If they hope to succeed with another series they'll need to find a solution to the impartiality we've seen this year from both judges and choreographers.