Apparantly Gareth has been pulled out of the flying by the medics as he's still being sick. He'll be doing his save me skate instead - I assume if he ends up in the skate off he'll just have to repeat it.
Gareth Out of Flying
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And how is that going to be fair on the others?
At this late stage if you can't do the required element then tough he should be out, why should be be given advantage over the rest by escaping flying, they could of all pulled the 'I can't do it incase I puke' card
Totally unfair IMO
At this late stage if you can't do the required element then tough he should be out, why should be be given advantage over the rest by escaping flying, they could of all pulled the 'I can't do it incase I puke' card
Totally unfair IMO
Originally Posted by TraceyUK:
“And how is that going to be fair on the others?
At this late stage if you can't do the required element then tough he should be out, why should be be given advantage over the rest by escaping flying, they could of all pulled the 'I can't do it incase I puke' card
Totally unfair IMO”
“And how is that going to be fair on the others?
At this late stage if you can't do the required element then tough he should be out, why should be be given advantage over the rest by escaping flying, they could of all pulled the 'I can't do it incase I puke' card
Totally unfair IMO”
I agree; the 'flying' is the required element, as it were. If he can't do it then tough; he should have been allowed to do one routine only and finished bottom of the leaderboard if necessary.
Also, he's had weeks to learn the skate off routine - the others have only had a week of flying.
Gareth Thomas@gareththomas14
The medics have pulled me out of flying for safety reasons.I'm gutted but can't take the risk.Hope I can impress with another skate instead.
I like Gareth but he now gets 2 chances at showing his skating whilst the others have to show a new skill that they might struggle with
uneven playing field
The medics have pulled me out of flying for safety reasons.I'm gutted but can't take the risk.Hope I can impress with another skate instead.
I like Gareth but he now gets 2 chances at showing his skating whilst the others have to show a new skill that they might struggle with
uneven playing field
Originally Posted by TraceyUK:
“And how is that going to be fair on the others?
At this late stage if you can't do the required element then tough he should be out, why should be be given advantage over the rest by escaping flying, they could of all pulled the 'I can't do it incase I puke' card
Totally unfair IMO”
“And how is that going to be fair on the others?
At this late stage if you can't do the required element then tough he should be out, why should be be given advantage over the rest by escaping flying, they could of all pulled the 'I can't do it incase I puke' card
Totally unfair IMO”
It's not Gareth who made the decision in his defence - he tweeted that he was gutted. It was the medics - I guess they do have a duty to care & am not sure that I'd want to be sat in the audience with someone puking from 20ft above.
Originally Posted by TraceyUK:
“And how is that going to be fair on the others?
At this late stage if you can't do the required element then tough he should be out, why should be be given advantage over the rest by escaping flying, they could of all pulled the 'I can't do it incase I puke' card
Totally unfair IMO”
“And how is that going to be fair on the others?
At this late stage if you can't do the required element then tough he should be out, why should be be given advantage over the rest by escaping flying, they could of all pulled the 'I can't do it incase I puke' card
Totally unfair IMO”
Sillier both ways, because the save me skates recently have been poor early week routines with no additions for increasing ability. Either he does something thats only worth 7 if done perfectly - or he's had time to upgrade his skate off skate that no one else will have had if they are in a skate off with him.
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“I agree; the 'flying' is the required element, as it were. If he can't do it then tough; he should have been allowed to do one routine only and finished bottom of the leaderboard if necessary.
Also, he's had weeks to learn the skate off routine - the others have only had a week of flying.”
“I agree; the 'flying' is the required element, as it were. If he can't do it then tough; he should have been allowed to do one routine only and finished bottom of the leaderboard if necessary.
Also, he's had weeks to learn the skate off routine - the others have only had a week of flying.”
All that would do is feed sympathy votes. Just hope they learn from this & don't bother with it again - as many of us have said it has naff all to do with flying.
Originally Posted by Tiger Rose:
“It's not Gareth who made the decision in his defence - he tweeted that he was gutted. It was the medics - I guess they do have a duty to care & am not sure that I'd want to be sat in the audience with someone puking from 20ft above.”
“It's not Gareth who made the decision in his defence - he tweeted that he was gutted. It was the medics - I guess they do have a duty to care & am not sure that I'd want to be sat in the audience with someone puking from 20ft above.”
Fair enough but the producers should tell him he can only do one routine. I know it's difficult because it's not really Gareth's fault but it's definitely not the others fault and they're going to be judged on flying (which I can't see either Matt or Luke being great at) while Gareth will be able to stay firmly on the ice.
Should they now say that nobody will do the flying to create a level playing field? Probably not, otherwise all the hype of the flying will be lost.
Originally Posted by Great Dane:
“Should they now say that nobody will do the flying to create a level playing field? Probably not, otherwise all the hype of the flying will be lost.”
“Should they now say that nobody will do the flying to create a level playing field? Probably not, otherwise all the hype of the flying will be lost.”
Possibly, though again Luke would have a new skate off routine to learn this week whereas Beth, Gareth and Matt will have had longer to learn their routines.
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“Fair enough but the producers should tell him he can only do one routine. I know it's difficult because it's not really Gareth's fault but it's definitely not the others fault and they're going to be judged on flying (which I can't see either Matt or Luke being great at) while Gareth will be able to stay firmly on the ice.”
“Fair enough but the producers should tell him he can only do one routine. I know it's difficult because it's not really Gareth's fault but it's definitely not the others fault and they're going to be judged on flying (which I can't see either Matt or Luke being great at) while Gareth will be able to stay firmly on the ice.”
It's a bit of a mess regardless - not one that is Gareth's fault though.
Mark Jefferies@mirrorjeffers
#DOI fans - Gareth Thomas is NOT doing routine on high wires after being sick today. He'll do 'save me' routine instead.
#DOI fans - Gareth Thomas is NOT doing routine on high wires after being sick today. He'll do 'save me' routine instead.
Originally Posted by TraceyUK:
“And how is that going to be fair on the others?
At this late stage if you can't do the required element then tough he should be out, why should be be given advantage over the rest by escaping flying, they could of all pulled the 'I can't do it incase I puke' card
Totally unfair IMO”
“And how is that going to be fair on the others?
At this late stage if you can't do the required element then tough he should be out, why should be be given advantage over the rest by escaping flying, they could of all pulled the 'I can't do it incase I puke' card
Totally unfair IMO”
That line has turned up in the VTs every year too - how did they distinguish him from everyone else who has had the same problem? And if they started flying training a couple of weeks ago and he's got a complete block on it why didn't that turn up as an issue earlier?
That just won't be fair to whoever he is in the bottom two with as they won't send him home.
So we will have another ridiculous situation where someone who has done what was required goes home and someone who didn't stays.
So we will have another ridiculous situation where someone who has done what was required goes home and someone who didn't stays.
Originally Posted by Kolin Klingon:
“That just won't be fair to whoever he is in the bottom two with as they won't send him home.
So we will have another ridiculous situation where someone who has done what was required goes home and someone who didn't stays.”
“That just won't be fair to whoever he is in the bottom two with as they won't send him home.
So we will have another ridiculous situation where someone who has done what was required goes home and someone who didn't stays.
”
I am sure Luke is gong home regardless as was always going to be the case.
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“If it's just motion sickness then he can take medication to dull the issue.”
“If it's just motion sickness then he can take medication to dull the issue.”
He has been taking some for the last 2 weeks since they started training with the harness.
Originally Posted by Tiger Rose:
“I am sure Luke is gong home regardless as was always going to be the case.”
“I am sure Luke is gong home regardless as was always going to be the case.”
He may gain a sympathy vote if people are unimpressed at Gareth getting a 'pass' while he's forced into something he might not be good at.
Originally Posted by TraceyUK:
“And how is that going to be fair on the others?
At this late stage if you can't do the required element then tough he should be out, why should be be given advantage over the rest by escaping flying, they could of all pulled the 'I can't do it incase I puke' card
Totally unfair IMO”
“And how is that going to be fair on the others?
At this late stage if you can't do the required element then tough he should be out, why should be be given advantage over the rest by escaping flying, they could of all pulled the 'I can't do it incase I puke' card
Totally unfair IMO”
Hes a lovely guy and puts everything in to it, so leave him alone. I'll bet his huge physic would be a problem with that harness so not surprised he's out.
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“He may gain a sympathy vote if people are unimpressed at Gareth getting a 'pass' while he's forced into something he might not be good at.”
“He may gain a sympathy vote if people are unimpressed at Gareth getting a 'pass' while he's forced into something he might not be good at.”
Hes very lucky to be in the Semi final anyway. Luke that is.
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“He may gain a sympathy vote if people are unimpressed at Gareth getting a 'pass' while he's forced into something he might not be good at.”
“He may gain a sympathy vote if people are unimpressed at Gareth getting a 'pass' while he's forced into something he might not be good at.”
Yes he may. I can't help but think they should have given him something to prevent him being sick, there are such medications but just how effective they are I don't know.
Originally Posted by diamond1:
“Gareth Thomas@gareththomas14
The medics have pulled me out of flying for safety reasons.I'm gutted but can't take the risk.Hope I can impress with another skate instead.
I like Gareth but he now gets 2 chances at showing his skating whilst the others have to show a new skill that they might struggle with
uneven playing field”
“Gareth Thomas@gareththomas14
The medics have pulled me out of flying for safety reasons.I'm gutted but can't take the risk.Hope I can impress with another skate instead.
I like Gareth but he now gets 2 chances at showing his skating whilst the others have to show a new skill that they might struggle with
uneven playing field”
They should drop the flying anyway. Bet Gareth is gutted as he such a great bloke.
Originally Posted by NaturalDancer:
“Yes he may. I can't help but think they should have given him something to prevent him being sick, there are such medications but just how effective they are I don't know.”
“Yes he may. I can't help but think they should have given him something to prevent him being sick, there are such medications but just how effective they are I don't know.”
Luke also suffers from motion sickness and heights yet he wasn't withdrawn. Not that this will matter to the casual viewer has that hasn't really been promoted - just mentioned in passing.
Originally Posted by NaturalDancer:
“Yes he may. I can't help but think they should have given him something to prevent him being sick, there are such medications but just how effective they are I don't know.”
“Yes he may. I can't help but think they should have given him something to prevent him being sick, there are such medications but just how effective they are I don't know.”
yes there are medications, but he's been on them for two weeks and they haven't helped - in fact, as they said in the VT earlier, its gotten much worse. Yes, Luke suffered as well, but he was able to do the routine - Gareth almost passed out once already and that was without being on the harness. Its not his fault, and its not by fault of him not trying or putting enough work in - he shouldn't be penalised for it.
Please no flying next year!
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