Vile the most overused word on here and if you think this boy is vile then you must have had a very sheltered life and therefore need to get out more

Well that's nice to hear...but based on what I've seen so far,I still have no desire to watch him skate again.

I don't think he can believe it either!

Thats what opinions are all about, its upto the individual, he isnt the best skater no and i was very surprised he made it this far but he has and i dont think its fair that people think its fine to personally insult someone they dont know.

I've heard him a few times too, and it makes me feel sorry for Luke. I've presumed it's a relative attempting to be supportive, but the reality is that those "don't take any criticism from them" relatives are just a hindrance.

Luke is there to learn, and should be expecting criticism. Having a loudmouth relative heckling the judges only makes it harder for him. Instead of taking it on the chin and thinking "yes, I'll work on that", he's busy thinking "he's got it in for me" and the emotions that go with that. He's wasting energy being defiant when he should be learning.

My dad was a teacher, and he'd have reasonably bright pupils whose parents had unrealistic expectations. At parents night they'd give my dad a hard time for not giving their darling child top marks, and refused to accept that their child might just not be that gifted at his subject (or that they weren't putting the work in). Instead of supporting their child to get better, they'd encourage them to blame the school.

It could be that some people are voting for him as an Olympian but really as far as I'm concerned he deserved to be in the semi-final rather than Samia though personally I'd rather have seen Keith get this far.

Agreed Gemski. Some say there's a rule on here that you can insult celebs but not posters, this is their stock defence when called out for a lack of fair play and to them I say read the rules, it does not say that. It says you can criticise what they do but not use inappropriate name calling, and a clear example is given.

Of course a balance of opinions is fine but there should be a balanced way to express them.

To be fair to him he looked almost guilty and embarrassed to have made the final in the way he did.

Yeah I thought that too, understandable as you don't want to get through by default instead of merit.

Don't understand the hate for him...he is the only skater left in the contest who's performances come across as authentic. I love Matt but they are extremely forced performances whereas Beth's are also forced to a degree but still underwhelming. His skating is not up to their standards but he has improved and the viewers probably appreciate just watching a nice routine.

I take the point that you don't like him much, but vile?

If Gareth could have competed fully I'd have liked it to be him, Beth and Matt in the final. Luke has been a worthy semi finalist though IMO. He's progressed a lot in terms of skating even though he's behind the others, and he does try to deliver a sincere performance. OK so he talks back to Jason a bit, but Jason does sometimes criticise him in an unconstructive way (not always, but sometimes), and besides, Jason has said he doesn't mind.

Or Gareth seeing as though Luke did his flying routine

Agreed

Seriously?

I expressed an opinion, based on my experience watching him.

No name calling, just an opinion.

You want insulting? The DS live blog provides it.

Anyone spot which bit of this is insulting?

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s101/...live-blog.html

Erm, you are not a mod, you made your point and you are now just becoming a bully because my opinion is not the same as yours.

We don't agree, fine, you really need to get over it and move on now.

The whole blog is written in a pretty nasty, DOI is below us and the celebs will all end up in panto because they have nothing else, style.

No I am not a mod. And neither are you. If you have an issue with the DS blog, perhaps you should raise it with them. In my opinion, something to which we are both entitled remember, it's simply for me a question of how it's put, the blog is not nasty compared to some postings on this forum.

If you really do consider that in anything I've said I am bullying you, please do alert the mods. I am sure they will consider both our postings towards each other in their assessment, and I shall accept that assessment.

He was good enough for the last 4 but was on course to be dumped in Sunday's skate off.

My point is that the mods were alerted to the post that got you so annoyed and they obviously considered it to be ok, and moved on. If you really are able to accept their assessments then why don't you do that and stop going on about it?

I also think the language you used was inappropriate but if they contact me or put a posting out to confirm what you have said above, then I will. Forgive me if I don't take your or any other non-moderators' word for it.

All a bit over the top now. Language I used? I said 'vile'. A word used on this forum a lot.

My post was reported, no action was taken, why on earth would they contact you direct? ?

You would honestly think I had killed somebody with the reaction on here.

I think people just want to know what the mods think is acceptable and what isn't and it would be helpful if they would confirm this.

So 'people' could email them instead of taking moderating into their own hands like some on here and instead of repeatedly berating one poster to the point it becomes bullying. Both also against the 'rules'.

yes
but he has done well to get there