Originally Posted by willows:
“Blatant favouritism, he was overmarked again tonight”
“Blatant favouritism, he was overmarked again tonight”
Nothing blatant about it. Some people just don't like it when the judges disagree with them.
Could they be any more blatant in their favouritism towards Matt?
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Originally Posted by Tiggergirl:
“Plus on the DOI facebook sure I saw a comment somewhere about him having played ice hockey before that seems to have been conviently omitted from his prior experience. Could be wrong but sure I saw that there somewhere on there but given the page is crazy just now can't really check.
If true then he has had an unfair advantage in terms of having skating experience and would explain the posture etc and grrrr I just don't want him to win please please GBP have sense and don't vote for him.”
“Plus on the DOI facebook sure I saw a comment somewhere about him having played ice hockey before that seems to have been conviently omitted from his prior experience. Could be wrong but sure I saw that there somewhere on there but given the page is crazy just now can't really check.
If true then he has had an unfair advantage in terms of having skating experience and would explain the posture etc and grrrr I just don't want him to win please please GBP have sense and don't vote for him.”
Many of them have skated before. The rules don't say the contestants must have no previous skating experience.
Originally Posted by Saskia44:
“Nothing blatant about it. Some people just don't like it when the judges disagree with them.”
“Nothing blatant about it. Some people just don't like it when the judges disagree with them.”
Even if the majority disagree with the judges?
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“Even if the majority disagree with the judges?”
“Even if the majority disagree with the judges?”
The judges are judges for a reason. The general public don't see with the same eyes.
Personally I believe Matt is the better skater. I agree with the judges.
Originally Posted by Saskia44:
“The judges are judges for a reason. The general public don't see with the same eyes.
Personally I believe Matt is the better skater. I agree with the judges.”
“The judges are judges for a reason. The general public don't see with the same eyes.
Personally I believe Matt is the better skater. I agree with the judges.”
The judges don't always vote the best skater though
Hes the shows favourite. I think he will win anyhow, but its obvious how bias the show is towards him. What can we do? I mean he holds all the aces at the moment, I can't see him being beat in truth!
Just yet another scripted winner, reality tv at its finest!
Just yet another scripted winner, reality tv at its finest!
Originally Posted by rsefitpro07:
“Hes the shows favourite. I think he will win anyhow, but its obvious how bias the show is towards him. What can we do? I mean he holds all the aces at the moment, I can't see him being beat in truth!
Just yet another scripted winner, reality tv at its finest!”
“Hes the shows favourite. I think he will win anyhow, but its obvious how bias the show is towards him. What can we do? I mean he holds all the aces at the moment, I can't see him being beat in truth!
Just yet another scripted winner, reality tv at its finest!”
and why I don't vote.
Originally Posted by gcmac:
“I think he is by far the best this year, I'm not sure if I like his personality all the time, but I think he skates faster and performs better than the others.
The comment about being the best male celeb doing the flying annoyed me a bit as I'm sure if it was Matt vs Ray, Ray would win.
I don't feel that Matt is as good as Ray and Chris Fountain, but I don't know whether I maybe just cared a little more about the show when they were on.”
“I think he is by far the best this year, I'm not sure if I like his personality all the time, but I think he skates faster and performs better than the others.
The comment about being the best male celeb doing the flying annoyed me a bit as I'm sure if it was Matt vs Ray, Ray would win.
I don't feel that Matt is as good as Ray and Chris Fountain, but I don't know whether I maybe just cared a little more about the show when they were on.”
both Ray and Chris were better week one than Matt is now .. and then they improved to jumping and spinning ... Matt's new skills seem to be just rolling around on the ice ... skating wise there's no progression in his skills
Originally Posted by diamond1:
“both Ray and Chris were better week one than Matt is now .. and then they improved to jumping and spinning ... Matt's new skills seem to be just rolling around on the ice ... skating wise there's no progression in his skills”
“both Ray and Chris were better week one than Matt is now .. and then they improved to jumping and spinning ... Matt's new skills seem to be just rolling around on the ice ... skating wise there's no progression in his skills”
I do miss all the spins and jumps etc.
Originally Posted by diamond1:
“both Ray and Chris were better week one than Matt is now .. and then they improved to jumping and spinning ... Matt's new skills seem to be just rolling around on the ice ... skating wise there's no progression in his skills”
“both Ray and Chris were better week one than Matt is now .. and then they improved to jumping and spinning ... Matt's new skills seem to be just rolling around on the ice ... skating wise there's no progression in his skills”
Has Matt even attempted a jump - I can't remember
I can't see him doing a split jump like Ray or the spin that Chris does so well
'Rolling around on the ice' reminds me of Todd
Originally Posted by Patti-Ann:
“Has Matt even attempted a jump - I can't remember
I can't see him doing a split jump like Ray or the spin that Chris does so well
'Rolling around on the ice' reminds me of Todd”
“Has Matt even attempted a jump - I can't remember
I can't see him doing a split jump like Ray or the spin that Chris does so well
'Rolling around on the ice' reminds me of Todd
”
Didn't Beth do a spin earlier in one of the shows?
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“Didn't Beth do a spin earlier in one of the shows?”
“Didn't Beth do a spin earlier in one of the shows?”
I think so, but nothing like Chris
Originally Posted by Patti-Ann:
“I think so, but nothing like Chris”
“I think so, but nothing like Chris
”
But Chris had been on the ice before, I don't think Beth had
Originally Posted by NaturalDancer:
“Well Karen certainly couldn't be more blatant given she said so on This Morning
”
“Well Karen certainly couldn't be more blatant given she said so on This Morning
”
How they can let sit on the panel and 'judge' after that is beyond me
Originally Posted by Saskia44:
“Many of them have skated before. The rules don't say the contestants must have no previous skating experience.”
“Many of them have skated before. The rules don't say the contestants must have no previous skating experience.”
I think you will find the majority of them haven't skated before and given the premise is supposed to be about teaching beginners how to skate having something like hockey skating experience is giving you something of an advantage and an uneven playing field to even begin with which was something I even thought with David Seaman and Jessica Taylor because they did Strictly On Ice. I thought they both went into DOI having an unfair advanage as they had been given previous skating training.
Chris Fountain was open about it as I say not 100% certain on source as I say I say a comment referencing it today when I was looking through the page and I will check it again if it ever calms down on facebook but if true Matt has kept quiet about it its the secrecy of them use claiming to have no experience but be brilliant just seems wrong IMO.
He is not the best skater, his posture is diabological and he does not get pulled up on it. He cheats a lot on his moves and IMO its all show and no substance. Others have put the effort into actually getting the moves perfect and don't get the credit for it whereas he is allowed to make mistakes and get away with it.
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“Didn't Beth do a spin earlier in one of the shows?”
“Didn't Beth do a spin earlier in one of the shows?”
in the leveller and in her skate off routine tonight ... she also did a jump in her leveller
Originally Posted by diamond1:
“in the leveller and in her skate off routine tonight ... she also did a jump in her leveller”
“in the leveller and in her skate off routine tonight ... she also did a jump in her leveller”
Thank you, I didn't watch the results show.
Originally Posted by diamond1:
“both Ray and Chris were better week one than Matt is now .. and then they improved to jumping and spinning ... Matt's new skills seem to be just rolling around on the ice ... skating wise there's no progression in his skills”
“both Ray and Chris were better week one than Matt is now .. and then they improved to jumping and spinning ... Matt's new skills seem to be just rolling around on the ice ... skating wise there's no progression in his skills”
Yeah I think this is part of the reason I don't care about the show as much anymore, they are not trying to progress them by doing new skills, I don't think it's just Matt, I don't think any of them have been given many new skills. They have been given some bigger lifts, and skate a bit faster but there's no focus on skills. I miss the skill of the week element, at least it taught the viewers something about skating and we knew what to look out for from everyone. I enjoyed them adding in jumps and spins and I remember Chris doing the blur spin and attempting the axle(?) jump and Ray doing the split jump. It has now become too repetitive in my opinion.
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“They said he was the best male skater to do the flying. What about Ray, they are not being fair to Ray by saying this. I am really fed up now.”
“They said he was the best male skater to do the flying. What about Ray, they are not being fair to Ray by saying this. I am really fed up now.”
I agree Ray IS the best flyer... and i cant believe robin of all people forgetting Rays talent
Originally Posted by MistyBlueEyes:
“I agree Ray IS the best flyer... and i cant believe robin of all people forgetting Rays talent”
“I agree Ray IS the best flyer... and i cant believe robin of all people forgetting Rays talent”
Ray's style of flying was actually quite feminine and his petite build suited it.
Matt's flying is more male and had more difficult moves IMO.
The best comparison would be Chris Fountain's flying - they're both the same height, lots of similar moves but Matt's performance was far superior IMO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar1mXGxWuc0
Originally Posted by gcmac:
“Yeah I think this is part of the reason I don't care about the show as much anymore, they are not trying to progress them by doing new skills, I don't think it's just Matt, I don't think any of them have been given many new skills. They have been given some bigger lifts, and skate a bit faster but there's no focus on skills. I miss the skill of the week element, at least it taught the viewers something about skating and we knew what to look out for from everyone. I enjoyed them adding in jumps and spins and I remember Chris doing the blur spin and attempting the axle(?) jump and Ray doing the split jump. It has now become too repetitive in my opinion.”
“Yeah I think this is part of the reason I don't care about the show as much anymore, they are not trying to progress them by doing new skills, I don't think it's just Matt, I don't think any of them have been given many new skills. They have been given some bigger lifts, and skate a bit faster but there's no focus on skills. I miss the skill of the week element, at least it taught the viewers something about skating and we knew what to look out for from everyone. I enjoyed them adding in jumps and spins and I remember Chris doing the blur spin and attempting the axle(?) jump and Ray doing the split jump. It has now become too repetitive in my opinion.”
Ray week 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_GPl03uvRA
far superior footwork to what Matt's doing week 9
Ray's flying ... so graceful
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6L_PWRK1hDk
Originally Posted by Saskia44:
“Many of them have skated before. The rules don't say the contestants must have no previous skating experience.”
“Many of them have skated before. The rules don't say the contestants must have no previous skating experience.”
Yet Denise van Outen was slated on DS during Strictly for her previous dancing experience.
In one of the earlier programmes it was mentioned that Matt had played ice hockey and Matt himself said he was a dancer, so he's got a bit of an unfair advantage there, especially the dancing part as he's used to performing which Beth, Luke and Gareth aren't. So even if he's never actually danced in a show, he was at the Italia Conti Drama Academy in London for 3 years. Having 2 judges who are just judging on performance is a bit unfair on the others.
Originally Posted by dekaf:
“The thing is he is the best all rounder there though. I'm not sure why people dislike him so much that they can't see that.
I really like Gareth, he's my fav celeb left, but he isn't as good as Matt.”
“The thing is he is the best all rounder there though. I'm not sure why people dislike him so much that they can't see that.
I really like Gareth, he's my fav celeb left, but he isn't as good as Matt.”
Matt can skate, no question about it, but for me, it comes down to the likeable factor, which he really has nothing likeable about him. Way to cocky and arrogant for my liking. There seem's to be a favouritism with the judges for him. His props night consisted of him just putting different hats on his head and the judges went wild. At the end of the day, he is getting through, wheter it be by the skin of his teeth or not, but I really hope he dos'nt win.
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