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Old 02-02-2014, 22:54
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The Pretty Reckless have been added to the Download lineup, that is another factor pushing me to go, if I stay in the country.

Oh btw, could anybody recommend me any new bands?

I am a fan of System of a Down, Korn, Limp Bikit, Linkin Park and I love Ozzy Osbourne's solo material. Prince of Darkness is an impeccable collection of his work and his albums after tht have had some great songs. It would be awesome if he did a Prince Of Darkness Part 2 in 15/20 years.
Slipknot are a band that is generally put into the same category as those.
Can't really help when it comes to newer bands because *clutches walking stick* I'm finding it harder to understand kids tastes these days.
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Old 03-02-2014, 05:46
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The Pretty Reckless have been added to the Download lineup, that is another factor pushing me to go, if I stay in the country.

Oh btw, could anybody recommend me any new bands?

I am a fan of System of a Down, Korn, Limp Bikit, Linkin Park and I love Ozzy Osbourne's solo material. Prince of Darkness is an impeccable collection of his work and his albums after tht have had some great songs. It would be awesome if he did a Prince Of Darkness Part 2 in 15/20 years.
I remember seeing the Pretty Reckless before Evanescence a few years back, Taylor surely loves to tease the men
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Old 03-02-2014, 09:25
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Is there any Within Temptation fans here that are getting the new album next week ?. I know that they are hardly Symphonic Metal anymore, but I am really looking forward to it.
It's released today, however as I ordered mine direct from the band's website it arrived on Saturday

I've only had the chance to listen to it once but on first hearing I like it.

I'll need to listen a few more times to get "in to" it, as I do anything new.
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Old 03-02-2014, 10:16
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Is there any Within Temptation fans here that are getting the new album next week ?. I know that they are hardly Symphonic Metal anymore, but I am really looking forward to it.
I bought their last album on the strength of hearing 'Faster' on Planet Rock.

I thought is was OK, but Nightwish do it much better, for me.
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Old 03-02-2014, 10:17
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Yes, you're right. I think Meglos is being a little unfair on him there. Peter Tagtgren of Pain does the same thing, only without the runaway ego.
Pain.

Did I see them supporting Paradise Lost? That name sounds familiar.
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Old 03-02-2014, 11:01
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Pain.

Did I see them supporting Paradise Lost? That name sounds familiar.
I don't know about Paradise Lost but they were the support act for Nightwish in 2012 & did a short headlining tour here a year ago.

Peter Tagtgren is probably better known for Hypocrisy though. Pain is his own side project - Industrial, rather than Death.
http://www.painworldwide.com/home/

Live in Leeds 2013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNy9vfgkvtw

Hypocrisy @ Graspop 2013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njA8_f3eruA
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Old 03-02-2014, 11:20
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I don't know about Paradise Lost but they were the support act for Nightwish in 2012 & did a short headlining tour here a year ago.

Peter Tagtgren is probably better known for Hypocrisy though. Pain is his own side project - Industrial, rather than Death.
http://www.painworldwide.com/home/

Live in Leeds 2013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNy9vfgkvtw

Hypocrisy @ Graspop 2013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njA8_f3eruA

Ahhh, it could well have been Nightwish I saw them support then.
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Old 03-02-2014, 11:37
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I bought their last album on the strength of hearing 'Faster' on Planet Rock.

I thought is was OK, but Nightwish do it much better, for me.
I think the Black Symphony DVD give a much better impression of what Within Temptation are really about. The Unforgiving is quite a commercial departure from their earlier stuff.

Nightwish and Within Temptation are two very different bands to me.
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Old 03-02-2014, 12:15
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I don't know about Paradise Lost but they were the support act for Nightwish in 2012 & did a short headlining tour here a year ago.

Peter Tagtgren is probably better known for Hypocrisy though. Pain is his own side project - Industrial, rather than Death.
http://www.painworldwide.com/home/

Live in Leeds 2013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNy9vfgkvtw

Hypocrisy @ Graspop 2013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njA8_f3eruA
Paradise Lost have been around for a long time. They did a 25th Anniversary Tour last year to commemorate the release of their first album.

Not really my thing, but the two support bands were Lacuna Coil and Katatonia, so that was a good enough reason for me to go!
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Old 03-02-2014, 12:20
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Paradise Lost have been around for a long time. They did a 25th Anniversary Tour last year to commemorate the release of their first album.

Not really my thing, but the two support bands were Lacuna Coil and Katatonia, so that was a good enough reason for me to go!
I didn't mean that I'd never heard of Paradise Lost, just that I didn't know if Pain had supported them or not.
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Old 03-02-2014, 12:24
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According to Wikipedia

"Pain supported Nightwish on the second half of their Dark Passion Play World Tour, along with Finnish pop rock band Indica, beginning with the first show in London, UK on 11 March 2009."

That'll be the one I saw then. I have seen Nightwish twice in London.
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Old 03-02-2014, 12:27
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Ahhh, it could well have been Nightwish I saw them support then.
This is Pain supporting Nightwish. Ring any bells? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSK_qgK1z9g
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Old 03-02-2014, 20:55
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Don't know if anyone here is interested, but for anyone who saw the Grammy's the other week, there was a pretty good collab between NIN, Queens of the Stone Age, Lindsey Buckingham and Dave Grohl where they did a joint performance of "A Copy of A..." and "My God is the Sun", but sadly during the live performance, they cut it short to show commercials and sponsers, which pissed off Reznor. Anyway, the full performance was leaked online from the rehearsal sessions (which sound much better):

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Old 06-02-2014, 11:34
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Within Temptation's new album Hydra is #2 in the midweek album chart.

The Official UK Albums Chart Update

Plus, of course, You Me At Six are currently #1.

Not really my thing but good to see a another Rock #1.
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Old 06-02-2014, 12:04
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Any fans of these fellas?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgdKMHoEFqk
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Old 06-02-2014, 12:14
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I do like Live, quite underrated.
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Old 06-02-2014, 12:24
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Within Temptation's new album Hydra is #2 in the midweek album chart.

The Official UK Albums Chart Update

Plus, of course, You Me At Six are currently #1.

Not really my thing but good to see a another Rock #1.
It's just s shame they've had to take their sound so mainstream in order to do it. They can't really be called Metal anymore. It was the same with A7X.
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Old 06-02-2014, 12:53
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It's just s shame they've had to take their sound so mainstream in order to do it. They can't really be called Metal anymore. It was the same with A7X.
I don't know if Within Temptation could ever have been called "metal", though, even on their earlier albums.

Certainly when compared to say Nightwish they have always had a softer, more commercial sound. For me that is why Black Symphony works so well.

I agree completely with A7X, though.
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Old 06-02-2014, 14:47
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Just a heads up for Metallica fans, Through The Never gets released on Blu-Ray & DVD on Monday 10th Feb.
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Old 06-02-2014, 15:51
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Metallica? Yuck

Give me more of this

http://www.classicrockmagazine.com/m...s-just-a-ride/
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Old 06-02-2014, 16:09
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I don't know if Within Temptation could ever have been called "metal", though, even on their earlier albums.

Certainly when compared to say Nightwish they have always had a softer, more commercial sound. For me that is why Black Symphony works so well.

I agree completely with A7X, though.
I think it'd be hard to argue against Within Temptation being metal on their first album at least:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GisgxmDTtSo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Fr_vKhYEeo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGhF_gKYjjQ

You're right though that since then they've been more commercial, but even then I think you could certainly make a case for 'The Silent Force' and 'The Heart of Everything' being metal, albeit the softer end of the genre.
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Old 07-02-2014, 00:47
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https://dougless.bandcamp.com/album/drink-and-drive

Some good blues driven stoner from Greece, a country that seems to be producing a fair few stoner bands.
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Old 07-02-2014, 10:50
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I do like Live, quite underrated.
Their album Throwing Copper is one of my all-time favourites.
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Old 07-02-2014, 10:58
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I think it'd be hard to argue against Within Temptation being metal on their first album at least:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GisgxmDTtSo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Fr_vKhYEeo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGhF_gKYjjQ

You're right though that since then they've been more commercial, but even then I think you could certainly make a case for 'The Silent Force' and 'The Heart of Everything' being metal, albeit the softer end of the genre.
They have a metal element to their music, of course they do, but I think they have always had a strong commercial sound through all of their albums, even Enter.

There's an interview with Sharon in this month's Prog where she cites Paradise Lost and Dead Can Dance as early influences as well as collectively absorbing the likes of Rush and Anathema in to their music. To me the metal influence isn't right to the forefront of their music in the same way as, say, Nightwish.
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Old 07-02-2014, 11:34
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Their album Throwing Copper is one of my all-time favourites.
They're touring it in the US....after a falling out and childish court battle with the singer.

Rock stars, you gotta love 'em
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