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Old 07-03-2013, 18:43
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I'm looking for a HD monitor for my new PC. I assumed I needed 1920x1080, but Ive been told that the following may also be HD...

1280 x 1024
1440 x 900
1680 x 1050

Now Im confused. How do I know which one would be suitable for me?

It might halp if I explain what I need it for. Firstly, I'm looking at a screen which is about min. 21" (max. 23") due to space restrictions

It wont be used for any gaming at all, but normal internet browsing use, word processing & viewing HD/Bluray movies.

What resolution do I need to suit my needs. Thanks
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Old 07-03-2013, 18:47
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If you want to watch blu-ray movies in full resolution, then you'll need a monitor that is 1920x1080 as a minimum.

Most PC monitors that can do this are likely to be 1920x1200, and that'll be fine.
I assumed I needed 1920x1080, but Ive been told that the following may also be HD...

1280 x 1024
1440 x 900
1680 x 1050
1280x1024 is a 5:4 screen ratio, and the usual resolution for cheaper monitors, it isn't HD (unless you're going to watch 720p, which is rare in the UK), and isn't widescreen.

1440x900 and 1680x1050 are both widescreen resolutions, (16x10), but won't show a full HD movie without scaling.
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Old 07-03-2013, 18:57
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If you want to watch blu-ray movies in full resolution, then you'll need a monitor that is 1920x1080 as a minimum.

Most PC monitors that can do this are likely to be 1920x1200, and that'll be fine.

1280x1024 is a 5:4 screen ratio, and the usual resolution for cheaper monitors, it isn't HD (unless you're going to watch 720p, which is rare in the UK), and isn't widescreen.

1440x900 and 1680x1050 are both widescreen resolutions, (16x10), but won't show a full HD movie without scaling.
Thanks, thats a fair bit to take in, but I'll take my time!

Will a 21"-23" screen be fine with 1920x1080? Ive read on this forum some people saying you need a bigger monitor screen (which is far too big & expensive for my needs)
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Old 07-03-2013, 18:59
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Thanks, thats a fair bit to take in, but I'll take my time!

Will a 21"-23" screen be fine with 1920x1080? Ive read on this forum some people saying you need a bigger monitor screen (which is far too big & expensive for my needs)
I have a 23" 1920x1080 HD monitor (Asus VE247H LED LCD 23.6" HDMI) and it is brilliant
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Old 07-03-2013, 19:01
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Cheers annie!
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Old 07-03-2013, 19:04
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Final question, even though my desktop PC has an HDMI out, if the HD monitor only has VGA, will it still give me a HD picture via VGA cable or something inferior?

I know if you connect a Sky HD box to a HD TV via scart, you get a crappy picture!
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Old 07-03-2013, 19:09
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Final question, even though my desktop PC has an HDMI out, if the HD monitor only has VGA, will it still give me a HD picture via VGA cable or something inferior?

I know if you connect a Sky HD box to a HD TV via scart, you get a crappy picture!
You could use VGA but I would not use that as it is very old analogue tech.

You should be aiming for HDMI and if you cannot use that then DVI is the next on the list, VGA comes way down the list after DVI.

If you want to view bluray then you will need HDMI as blurays are protected and need HDCP IIRC.
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Old 07-03-2013, 19:11
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DVI carries both audio & video?

Why would manufacturers make HD monitors without DVI or HDMI? Oh well, at least I now knw these things. Thanks again annie
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Old 07-03-2013, 19:13
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DVI carries both audio & video?

Why would manufacturers make HD monitors without DVI or HDMI? Oh well, at least I now knw these things. Thanks again annie
HDMI has audio and video, DVI is video only as is VGA.
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Old 07-03-2013, 19:17
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HDMI has audio and video, DVI is video only as is VGA.
OK, so I need to connect additional cables from my desktop to PC monitor to get the audio if using DVI?

My current PC is connected to a monitor via VGA and no other cable to get audio.

Or do you mean if I was to connect my PC to a TV??
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Old 07-03-2013, 19:23
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OK, so I need to connect additional cables from my desktop to PC monitor to get the audio if using DVI?

My current PC is connected to a monitor via VGA and no other cable to get audio.

Or do you mean if I was to connect my PC to a TV??
But does you PC use your monitors speakers? or does you PC have separate speakers?
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Old 07-03-2013, 19:26
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OK, so I need to connect additional cables from my desktop to PC monitor to get the audio if using DVI?

My current PC is connected to a monitor via VGA and no other cable to get audio.

Or do you mean if I was to connect my PC to a TV??
You will not get audio out of any integrated speakers on a monitor using either VGA or DVI alone. You would have to connect a separate cable for the audio.

I would not worry too much about this. It is fairly easy these days to find a monitor with HDMI. For example, first hit on Amazon

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-S24B.../dp/B0077L2LAC
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Old 07-03-2013, 19:31
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But does you PC use your monitors speakers? or does you PC have separate speakers?
Seperate
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Old 07-03-2013, 19:35
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Ah, then is is irrelevant if the video cable supports audio unless you want to use a monitors built-in speakers.
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Old 07-03-2013, 23:23
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1920x1080 monitors aren't really panels designed for computer monitors as they are in the TV ratio of 16:9. As production is setup to produce more panels for TV screens than monitors its just a way of saving money (plus for the average person saying its 1080p is a major selling point)

Widescreen computer monitors should really be in a 16:10 ratio so you are looking at more a 1980x1200 resolution to be ideal. While it may seem a minor difference it does make a difference when working on the computer as its more 'document' friendly than 16:9 which is more 'film' friendly.

16:10's however can be more expensive so it comes down to deciding if the extra money is worth more natural monitor resolution
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Old 08-03-2013, 01:07
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Just to emphasize what annie mentioned, you must ensure any monitor you purchase is HDCP compliant (High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection). If it isn't it won't display any blu ray content even if it's 1920X1080p.
HDCP won't work over a vga connection, so that's a non starter. HDMI or DVI is the way to go, but even then check that HDCP compliance is stated in the specs.
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Old 08-03-2013, 01:33
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You could use VGA but I would not use that as it is very old analogue tech.

You should be aiming for HDMI and if you cannot use that then DVI is the next on the list, VGA comes way down the list after DVI.

If you want to view bluray then you will need HDMI as blurays are protected and need HDCP IIRC.
sorry, but nothing wrong with VGA, we have CAD workstations with much higher resolutions then VGA and the picture is just fine.

PC can also playback bluray at full hd via VGA, AFAIK HDCP does not apply to analogue signals.
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Old 08-03-2013, 05:56
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1920 x 1080 would do you and is very standard these days. They go down to 22" screens.

All those others you mention are different aspect ratios, or less common resolutions. Some people may like them.

In fact with a 1920 x 1080 resolution you could use all those other resolutions you listed with a black area around anyway. So to me the others are a rather pointless purchase.

What you need to look for are 1920 x 1080, 22"(or near) along with inputs VGA(D-Sub), DVI, HDMI as a minimum along with HDCP compliance.

Some come with built in speakers but only the HDMI carries that, however you can connect the audio by other leads.
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Old 08-03-2013, 10:00
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You should be aiming for HDMI and if you cannot use that then DVI is the next on the list, VGA comes way down the list after DVI.
VGA is just as capable of HD as HDMI or DVI, it's EXTREMELY unlikely that you would be able to see any difference whatsoever (and VGA is just as likely to be the best, as either of the others).

HDMI and Digital DVI are exactly the same, except DVI doesn't have sound - just as Analogue DVI and VGA are exactly the same, but neither have sound.
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Old 08-03-2013, 10:15
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Just to emphasize what annie mentioned, you must ensure any monitor you purchase is HDCP compliant (High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection). If it isn't it won't display any blu ray content even if it's 1920X1080p.
HDCP won't work over a vga connection, so that's a non starter. HDMI or DVI is the way to go, but even then check that HDCP compliance is stated in the specs.
Not true, firstly HDCP is optional. Not every source (sky, blu-ray, etc) requests its all the time. There are plenty of blu-ray movies that don't request it and plenty of HD sky transmissions that don't and AFAIK no x360 or ps3 games that do.

Second if your source does request HDCP and your display unit is not compatible then you still get a picture but reduced to SD, Not as you suggest failing to play back completely.

Finally as I said before, you can get a perfectly fine HD picture over VGA and HDCP does not apply to VGA.
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Old 08-03-2013, 15:33
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Not true, firstly HDCP is optional. Not every source (sky, blu-ray, etc) requests its all the time. There are plenty of blu-ray movies that don't request it and plenty of HD sky transmissions that don't and AFAIK no x360 or ps3 games that do.

Second if your source does request HDCP and your display unit is not compatible then you still get a picture but reduced to SD, Not as you suggest failing to play back completely.

Finally as I said before, you can get a perfectly fine HD picture over VGA and HDCP does not apply to VGA.
Even if not all blu ray movies have HDCP, (any examples of commercial blu rays without HDCP?) the advice still stands. The OP specifically said they want to watch HD/blu ray movies so why would they go for a non HDCP monitor unless they know they'll only ever watch non HDCP movies?
And whilst vga can give a good HD picture it doesn't support HDCP so I still say it's a non starter in the OP's case.
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Old 08-03-2013, 15:38
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Not true, firstly HDCP is optional. Not every source (sky, blu-ray, etc) requests its all the time. There are plenty of blu-ray movies that don't request it and plenty of HD sky transmissions that don't and AFAIK no x360 or ps3 games that do.
While HDCP may be optional optional AFAIK a Sky HD box will require it ALL the time for ALL HD channels!
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Old 08-03-2013, 15:51
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While HDCP may be optional optional AFAIK a Sky HD box will require it ALL the time for ALL HD channels!
As do ALL HD transmissions (and BD's etc.) in the UK.

The requirement on broadcast transmissions is down to the individual channel - the receiver (Sky box, Freesat box etc.) only enables HDCP if it's told to do so
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Old 08-03-2013, 16:04
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So to summarise, you are looking for a PC monitor that is at least 1920x1080, 1920x1200 preferable.

If you're sending the PC audio to speakers plugged into the PC, or sending the audio to a HiFi amp from your PC, then the connectivity you need on the monitor is either HDMI or DVI as long as the monitor is HDCP compliant.

Yes, as mentioned you can get HD pictures over VGA, but most Blu-ray software will not let you play Blu-ray movies in HD over a VGA connection, only over an HDCP encrypted HDMI or DVI connection.

You may find it cheaper to get a 23" full-HD LCD TV with HDMI input and plug the PC into that!
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Old 08-03-2013, 16:15
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Acer G236HLBbid LED LCD 23" 1920x1080 fullHD

Interfaces: VGA DVI ( HDCP ) HDMI

http://www.ebuyer.com/407336-g236hlb...ign=b2c_friday
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