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The most important female singer in the last 40 years is.....
Pat Benatar!!!!!!
Without her Debby Harry, Joan Jett, Madonna and a slew of other female singers would have had a much more difficult time achieving the success they all had! |
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Pat Benatar!!!!!!
Without her Debby Harry, Joan Jett, Madonna and a slew of other female singers would have had a much more difficult time achieving the success they all had! |
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...and to add to that, when comparing the best selling artists of all time, the list is as follows;
1. The Beatles 2. Elvis 3. Michael Jackson 4. Madonna With 300 million (plus) record sales, she rightly belongs among those big top 3. There's no other female artist in that list by a country mile. |
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Madonna. Madonna. Madonna.
Obviously.
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Madonna. Madonna. Madonna.
Obviously. ![]() We shouldn't forget the Hart sisters and Linda Ronstadt. As influence for Debby, I think the friendship with Patty Smith was more important and to become first famous through UK. Joan Jett - Suzi Quatro Well Madonna is Madonna. |
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Since 1973? It pains me to say it but it might actually be Dolly Parton.
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Important in what way?
Madonna has sold a lot of records in the last 40 years but as a singer she isn't a patch on Whitney, Mariah, Chaka Khan, Sade, Diana Ross or Donna Summer. Also her success was only made possible by the work of earlier women. But if you want to properly look at the development of women in pop you have to consider the history of soul music and the primary importance of African American women soul singers. Starting in 1973 is quite arbitrary Aretha and Dionne Warwick did their best work before that but have been influential on artists ever since. If you only want to go back to the 70s then Donna Summer, Chaka Khan, Debbie Harry, Siouxsie Sioux must be contenders. But I reckon that Whitney Houston is the most important singer of the last 40 years as she actually was the best singer, was true to the soul tradition, sold more than a few records and was influential on other artists. |
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Pat Benatar!!!!!!
Without her Debby Harry, Joan Jett, Madonna and a slew of other female singers would have had a much more difficult time achieving the success they all had! ![]() all this crap about who did what first and nobody would have done as well after is just that..crap! even if Elvis & the Beatles hadn't happened something similar would have never mind Pat sodding Benatar and her dubious legacy |
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Carole King deserves a mention.
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Carole King deserves a mention.
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I would say Joni Mitchell rather than Carole King if the singer songwriters are in consideration and maybe even Carly Simon.
Not as better than Madonna, Kate Bush (how can that be really judged anyway) etc but not as much mentioned |
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Well, I think Madonna has a decent voice, especially on ballads so I'm going to choose her.
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Pat Benatar!!!!!!
Without her Debby Harry, Joan Jett, Madonna and a slew of other female singers would have had a much more difficult time achieving the success they all had! |
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I'm sure Blondie had had huge success before Pat Benatar made her name, so I'm not sure how Debbie Harry would have had a difficult time without her.
And i'm adding Amy W and Lady Gaga to the list. |
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Janet Jackson
She really opened the door for many artists |
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...and to add to that, when comparing the best selling artists of all time, the list is as follows;
1. The Beatles 2. Elvis 3. Michael Jackson 4. Madonna With 300 million (plus) record sales, she rightly belongs among those big top 3. There's no other female artist in that list by a country mile. |
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In vocal terms (for women who really put focus on singing) I would say that Aretha Franklin is the most important of all. Without her there would be no Whitney, Mariah or Celine etc. I think the most influential female vocal greats of the last 40 years go Aretha > Barbra > Whitney > Mariah. Without Mariah girls would be singing very differently today!
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But I reckon that Whitney Houston is the most important singer of the last 40 years as she actually was the best singer
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Not to me she isn't. I cannot stand I Will Always Love You because it makes me feel the same way fingernails down a blackboard does.
others may actually call that BLASPHEMY!! ![]()
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In vocal terms (for women who really put focus on singing) I would say that Aretha Franklin is the most important of all. Without her there would be no Whitney, Mariah or Celine etc. I think the most influential female vocal greats of the last 40 years go Aretha > Barbra > Whitney > Mariah. Without Mariah girls would be singing very differently today!
Also, as much as I love Aretha, if she really is the one responsible for there being a Whitney, a Mariah, a Celine or any of the other screaming, warbling, wailing, screeching harpies who have followed in their wake, then she (Aretha) certainly has a lot to answer for! |
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Not to me she isn't. I cannot stand I Will Always Love You because it makes me feel the same way fingernails down a blackboard does.
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Debbie Harry
Donna Summer Madonna (as much as I dislike her music) |
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Not to me she isn't. I cannot stand I Will Always Love You because it makes me feel the same way fingernails down a blackboard does.
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others may actually call that BLASPHEMY!!
![]() ![]() The real blasphemy (imo) is that Whitney "why sing it when you can scream it?" Houston now seems to be generally more highly regarded than (imo) far superior female singers of the past such as Ella Fitzgerald, Etta James and Aretha Franklin. |
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That Madonna sales figure of over 300 million is grossly inflated. It's estimated that she has in fact sold just over 200 million, about 10-20 million more than Mariah Carey worldwide. Obviously that figure is still incredible and still puts her up there so I have no idea why her label would want to inflate it by so much!
What about ABBA (ca. 350-400m AFAIK)? |
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I'm sure Blondie had had huge success before Pat Benatar made her name, so I'm not sure how Debbie Harry would have had a difficult time without her.
Both Pat Benatar and Blondie got their first platinum albums in 1979 the US. Both Pat and Blondie were the first women who were played on MTV. And to that poster who said "Pat sodding Benatar" she was and is one of the finest female rock singer of the last 40 years. |
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