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Dancing on Ice 2013 - The Finale - 10th March 2013 - 7pm - ITV1
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MuSiKe
10-03-2013
Originally Posted by StigOfTheKrump:
“No.

She really, really wasn't. ”

Samia was the star of the series, she look fabulous as Barbie tonight.
StigOfTheKrump
10-03-2013
Originally Posted by MuSiKe:
“Samia was the star of the series, she look fabulous as Barbie tonight.”

I think it takes a little more to win than 'looking fabulous as Barbie'.
Cameron_Lee
10-03-2013
Originally Posted by bloodynora:
“It might have already been mentioned elsewhere, but was there any mention of Lauren Goodger and why she wasn't there?”

Lauren Goodger♥ ‏@LaurenGoodger
Sorry guys I've been in physio I'm injured I'm here with the atmosphere but can't skate! Wrap party after loved every minute of DOI 2013 xx
Saskia44
10-03-2013
Originally Posted by StigOfTheKrump:
“Give up now, you're fooling no-one.

Beth won fair and square, which the judges should be happy about rather than mourning about Matt coming second.”

You are a real paranoid, conspiracy theorist - not uncommon on this forum.

I'm sure the judges are happy for Beth - but they have a right to feel disappointed for Matt who they knew technically was the real winner.
Saskia44
10-03-2013
Originally Posted by StigOfTheKrump:
“I think it takes a little more to win than 'looking fabulous as Barbie'.”

Being humble helps. Self-confidence does not.
Stunty
10-03-2013
Originally Posted by Saskia44:
“You have trumped me on that one with every single one of your posts.

Why do you even watch the show - it certainly doesn't seem to be for the actual skating.”

You are dead right, it is not for the skating ...... if you wanted to se some proper skating you would watch the real pros in the various World and European competitions.

This is not skating, and for the first few weeks it should be called 'carting a sack of spuds round the ice'.

It is supposed to be and entertainment programme, but DOI seems to lack that a lot of the time.


BIB: You don't agree about the Gishuk/Platov marking/judging of 1994 then?
StigOfTheKrump
10-03-2013
Originally Posted by Saskia44:
“Being humble helps. Self-confidence does not.”

...which is why Matt didn't win.
norbitonite
10-03-2013
Originally Posted by Saskia44:
“You are a real paranoid, conspiracy theorist - not uncommon on this forum.

I'm sure the judges are happy for Beth - but they have a right to feel disappointed for Matt who they knew technically was the real winner.”

Ah, the recourse of people on these threads whose favourite didn't win - 'they were the real winner'.

No, he wasn't technically the real winner. Beth was the winner, technically, really and any other way you care to phrase it. We get that you think Matt should have won, but he didn't so please stop insulting other posters because you're peeved that your favourite lost.

Matt was very gracious in defeat (as was Beth in victory) perhaps you could take a leaf from his book? The judges were obviously not able to, unfortunately.
jaceylacey
10-03-2013
I must admit I thought they were going to call Matt's name out.
goldberry1
10-03-2013
I genuinely thought Matt was much better - still think he should have won poor lad - any way congrats to Beth.
hitnmix
10-03-2013
Originally Posted by Saskia44:
“They must think the public are a bunch of plonkers who wouldn't recognise skill if it sat up and bit them.

Quite embarrasing really - that so many allow their bias to affect their judgement.”

Yes your post are quite embarrasing. Because you are going on about better skaters etc but you seam to forget the other week one of the judges even said Beth was technically the best skater out of them all.

So now your saying the judge is even wrong on the technically point of view.
avon942
10-03-2013
Originally Posted by MuSiKe:
“Samia was the star of the series, she look fabulous as Barbie tonight.”

She did look lovely as Barbie tonight. It's really a shame Lauren didn't get skate because of injury but even worse it wasn't mentioned.
nancy1975
10-03-2013
Originally Posted by norbitonite:
“Ah, the recourse of people on these threads whose favourite didn't win - 'they were the real winner'.

No, he wasn't technically the real winner. Beth was the winner, technically, really and any other way you care to phrase it. We get that you think Matt should have won, but he didn't so please stop insulting other posters because you're peeved that your favourite lost.

Matt was very gracious in defeat (as was Beth in victory) perhaps you could take a leaf from his book? The judges were obviously not able to, unfortunately.”

The contestants on these things always seem to accept defeat with grace, it's the judges who have childish sulks!
xorosetylerxo
10-03-2013
Originally Posted by avon942:
“She did look lovely as Barbie tonight. It's really a shame Lauren didn't get skate because of injury but even worse it wasn't mentioned.”

I know she was there in the audience they could have at least mentioned her
Soppyfan
11-03-2013
Well done to Beth and Dan for winning, especially Dan who's now won it three times. I wonder if they'll release the voting figures this time.
biggeral
11-03-2013
I watched every minute of every show this series and Beth thoroughly deserved to win. Her improvement was amazing and her Bolero was the only performance all series which genuinely deserved 10's. Matt was overmarked for the last 4 weeks and, although he was a very good skater, the 40's simply were not justified as it gave the judges nowhere to go and they were not THAT good.

Congratulations to Beth for being a great winner and to Matt for several excellent performances and being so graceful in defeat. Can't wait until next year!
Say_My_Name
11-03-2013
Originally Posted by Soppyfan:
“Well done to Beth and Dan for winning, especially Dan who's now won it three times. I wonder if they'll release the voting figures this time.”

I hope so. I love seeing voting % on all of these shows.
Mela80
11-03-2013
This is the first year where I didn't mind who won. I stopped minding about halfway through. If I had just turned up for the final I'm sure I would have still thought Luke wasn't a back-biting little boy, that Matt was a showman and Beth was extremely skilled and graceful.

However me not minding who wins means they don't get phone votes. Something had to change. So to be fair I didn't feel Matt was any less or more cocky than last year's winner. Beth was enjoyable but I saw a lot of moves they gave her to do in practice that were good but never used. Luke's attitude seemed to come out of nowhere and suddenly I knew he wasn't going to win. But then so did he.

Matt was consistently a showman, he put on a performance and was enjoyable from the start. I got the impression from the first show that he may suffer from ADD or something similar, comparing him to a bundle of energy and needing more control. That didn't change for me. He always had up tempo numbers (even when he changed genre to ballet) and seemed to be slightly ahead of the beat each time, like he was rushing to get it all out of the way. His footwork, which Robin himself pointed out before, was not right. If you re-watch the group dance you can see he doesn't place his feet on the ice properly. This isn't opinion just something I noticed. The judges sealed his fate.

Beth took all in her stride and even until the end she was having trouble with the 'fun,sexy, vibrant' expressions because it's easier to show sad emotion when you're worried and concentrating anyway. She brought it last night though and delivered everything they asked but was still scored lower. If she'd been scored fairly I'm betting Matt would have had a better chance.

But the producers will be happy with their phone votes and attention right?

However I'm so disappointed with the follow-up this morning and how much they just brush over Beth's win because they mistakenly focussed too much on one contestant. This is where the judges and show creators will value unbiased and balanced representation in future. It means you can give the winner, whoever it is, the celebration and glory they deserve.
nuttytigger
11-03-2013
Tony Gubba has passed away.

BBC Link
thenetworkbabe
11-03-2013
Originally Posted by StigOfTheKrump:
“...which is why Matt didn't win. ”

I suspect he doesn't win because he doesn't do much of anything that wins enough votes, and Beth does. Males can beat better females if they have a journey, or are attractive enough. Matt had no journey and doesn't seem that popular . Males can do exciting, difficult imprssive things like Ray and Chris - but Matt couldn't. Some winners get great routines and can use their technical and emotional content to win the voters - no one this series got a great one. Matt's acting was dubious throughout and the breakdancing, attitude and style were repetitive, and ultimately unsuited to Bolero

Beth on the other hand can skate as well ,at least, as he can. She's been doing moves since the early weeks he still hasn't. She also has more ability to perform the big wow factor moves. She added some new moves that are novel, and and she deployed them in the final with a lot of wow factor. Her choice of favourite dance probably worked for her as it allowed her to do an emotional number when Matt offered none.That made Jason's comments even more incredible. Dan however was smart enough to produce a Bolero that combined emotion and some big high wow factor moves - she's ticking all the boxes by the end.

That may be enough even before voters start noticing that they are being oversold something thats not there with Matt and being asked to vote for lots of doing nothing much while just moving around. The hype itself is so obviously incredible that it might swing some votes without people getting into the weeds and asking why no one comments on Matt's poor posture, or why Matt's favourite dance has been spiced up with a headbanger while Beth is doing her original routine.

Its going to be interesting to se if the votes show any other stories.
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