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Season 16: General Discussion, Videos, Pics, etc.
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edy10
21-05-2013
The ABC website is STILL NOT up
edy10
21-05-2013
And to think that many people thought that jacoby and Aly had this in the bag . No one is even talking about their performances today, its all about kellie or z.
sunshine6405
21-05-2013
Re: voting via ABC

George from OTRC interview with Kellie and Derek, said that there will be "no ABC.com voting at all" at around 1.35

http://www.ontheredcarpet.com/video?id=9109766
kindamagic4Fi
21-05-2013
Originally Posted by fridgesoup:
“I honestly think Zendaya likely has the most fans who come from the Facebook generation. So, if it does skew the outcome.....

ETA - a shame for those unable to vote. I do agree about that ”

Not so sure about that as a lot of angry parents on twitter saying their kids too young to have f/book & loved voting online all season.
Either way & i know i am a Zen/Val fan but even if they win, will it be tainted by the question if things had been as normal with voting would it been same result.

My biggest gripe is fact that i can understand site crashing when show was on but 12hrs & its still not up & running & no communication/explanation from ABC is disgusting.
kindamagic4Fi
21-05-2013
Originally Posted by sunshine6405:
“The only way I can vote is via FB app.....I cannot open an ABC account as I am from outside the US...

However, I do agree that it is unfair if people are unable to vote the way they want ”

I'm from UK & managed to open up ABC accounts easily.
kindamagic4Fi
21-05-2013
Just have to say if ABC were hoping with their re-vamp to gain a younger audience then i think that will be an epic fail after this voting fiasco!!
fridgesoup
21-05-2013
Originally Posted by kindamagic4Fi:
“Not so sure about that as a lot of angry parents on twitter saying their kids too young to have f/book & loved voting online all season.
Either way & i know i am a Zen/Val fan but even if they win, will it be tainted by the question if things had been as normal with voting would it been same result.

My biggest gripe is fact that i can understand site crashing when show was on but 12hrs & its still not up & running & no communication/explanation from ABC is disgusting. ”

The question is whether any contestant's fans are disproportionately at a disadvantage because of not being able to vote online. I guess I just don't think it affects Zendaya more than anyone else, and given that texting and F/b are still available, one could argue that it might even help her. (I wouldn't argue that btw because I'm not looking for conspiracies ).

I think the people who are disadvantaged are the members of the public who are unable to vote - but I expect they belong to all of the fan groups. I suppose whoever mobilised their fans best for power voting might miss out some, but I don't imagine Derek's committed fans are any less clued up about that than Zendaya's (and I'm only speculating that those would be two groups more motivated than some...)

As I understand it, the same thing happened last year (or so I read today). Seems they are pretty useless about sorting their stuff out. It's interesting that no explanation has been offered. Makes me wonder if they've been hacked rather than having technical difficulties .
Last edited by fridgesoup : 21-05-2013 at 16:35
Mr_XcX
21-05-2013
Originally Posted by sweetmiss:
“Abc voting is still down.... Only can vote on Facebook surely that will effect the outcome.”

I highly doubt that online voting effects the outcome that much. Probs not too significant enough to alter the finishing order.

If you see the X Factor USA votes Tate Stevens was topping the vote when he never had much of an online following. So I am sure the majority of votes are from phone or mobile.

That said it is highly unprofessional of ABC to close voting in the finale of all days LOOOOL

I'll be sad when this seasons over cause I will miss y'all
fridgesoup
21-05-2013
It seems like the voting at ABC.com did eventually come back online

Louis Van Amstell's blog

Annie Barrett's re-cap
Frankee
21-05-2013
Overall I really loved Kellie & Derek the most last night but I'd be happy with Zendaya & Val winning too. It's tough they're both so good. I also loved Aly & Mark too especially their freestyle. & Jacoby is good too though not as good as the other 3.

I actually liked all the freestyles. But Kellie & Derek's blew me away - so beautiful. I liked the party atmosphere of Jacoby's. I loved the theme and style of Aly's and Zendaya's was also excellent how she included a bit of everything, when I saw what she was dancing too I thought it was going to be too hip hop or whatever but it was great.
fridgesoup
21-05-2013
Hi Frankie - I pretty much agree with everything you said .

Feels a bit odd that they have to come back and perform again tonight. I hope the judges don't differentiate between them too much - I'd rather it was a fan decision at this stage. Looking forward to seeing the whole cast again - almost forgotten what some of them look like .
Mr_XcX
21-05-2013
Originally Posted by fridgesoup:
“Hi Frankie - I pretty much agree with everything you said .

Feels a bit odd that they have to come back and perform again tonight. I hope the judges don't differentiate between them too much - I'd rather it was a fan decision at this stage. Looking forward to seeing the whole cast again - almost forgotten what some of them look like .”

Oh yes, looking forward to Wynonna. Hope she treats us all to another Samba pole dance.
sjp07
21-05-2013
Kellie and Derek had the best dance of the entire season last night, however it is painfully obvious that the Disney affiliated contestant will win. Of course Disney-owned ABC are skewing toward the current Disney Channel star. Some of these scores have been desperately rigged in their favor. They should have just gotten Kellie and Derek out early so Zendaya would be an obvious winner.
valc_fan
21-05-2013
Originally Posted by sjp07:
“Kellie and Derek had the best dance of the entire season last night, however it is painfully obvious that the Disney affiliated contestant will win. Of course Disney-owned ABC are skewing toward the current Disney Channel star. Some of these scores have been desperately rigged in their favor. They should have just gotten Kellie and Derek out early so Zendaya would be an obvious winner.”

I don't think there was any grand scheme to have Zendaya win. I think her amazing dancing got her to the final where she clearly deserved to be there. I think the scores she earned were accurate as well.

Zendaya would have gotten to the final based on her dancing, whether the producers decided to have twitter contests or not. The producers wanted to incorporate twitter this season (they just love trying new things each season).

Honestly I think the voting fiasco probably hurt Zendaya's voting fans more than Kellie's. But who really knows unless the producers actually talk numbers tonight.

If Zendaya or Kellie won by millions upon millions of votes over the other....and had been getting those votes all season....then it would be hard to believe the show is rigged.

But last night sure doesn't help the conspiracy theories. I hope ABC talks about the actual numbers so that fans can know what is really going on.
edy10
21-05-2013
Originally Posted by sjp07:
“Kellie and Derek had the best dance of the entire season last night, however it is painfully obvious that the Disney affiliated contestant will win. Of course Disney-owned ABC are skewing toward the current Disney Channel star. Some of these scores have been desperately rigged in their favor. They should have just gotten Kellie and Derek out early so Zendaya would be an obvious winner.”

LOL thats all Im going to say
edy10
21-05-2013
Originally Posted by valc_fan:
“I don't think there was any grand scheme to have Zendaya win. I think her amazing dancing got her to the final where she clearly deserved to be there. I think the scores she earned were accurate as well.

Zendaya would have gotten to the final based on her dancing, whether the producers decided to have twitter contests or not. The producers wanted to incorporate twitter this season (they just love trying new things each season).

Honestly I think the voting fiasco probably hurt Zendaya's voting fans more than Kellie's. But who really knows unless the producers actually talk numbers tonight.

If Zendaya or Kellie won by millions upon millions of votes over the other....and had been getting those votes all season....then it would be hard to believe the show is rigged.

But last night sure doesn't help the conspiracy theories. I hope ABC talks about the actual numbers so that fans can know what is really going on.”

BIB It did.
1- A lot of her fans dont have facebook
2-Now I learn that people who voted before the show started wont have their votes counted because to be " fair " Abc decided not to count them because of the voting fiasco, yeah right. I know a lot of Z fans who always voted 1 hour before the show so those votes are thrown out of the window.
3-I have seen a lot of tweets of her fans saying that they couldn't vote, ......they dont have facebook.......
4- And Most importantly, Kellie's core demographic group and DWTS as well are on facebook. So there you go......


Your last sentence, you know they wont.
kindamagic4Fi
22-05-2013
Encore & 4th place

Spoiler
Encore Dance - Kellie/Derek Freestyle
Eliminated first in 4th Place - Aly & Mark
j4Rose
22-05-2013
All of the couples get a 30 - how contrived. I think the show is coming to an end.
edy10
22-05-2013
Originally Posted by j4Rose:
“All of the couples get a 30 - how contrived. I think the show is coming to an end.”

It really seems so contrived SMH.
kindamagic4Fi
22-05-2013
Spoiler
1st - Kellie & Derek
2nd - Zendaya & Val
3rd - Jacoby & Karina
j4Rose
22-05-2013
Hopefully Derek will bugger off now.
kindamagic4Fi
22-05-2013
Originally Posted by j4Rose:
“Hopefully Derek will bugger off now.”

Oh i wish that would happen, might make me feel better about this result but i fear he loves the limelight of DWTS too much.
Christian Cage
22-05-2013
Originally Posted by j4Rose:
“Hopefully Derek will bugger off now.”

Completely Agree. Can he just leave already.
fridgesoup
22-05-2013
Congratulations to Kellie and commiserations to Zendaya. They've both been great all season and were the right final two.
sjp07
22-05-2013
Why do you guys dislike Derek? He is an extremely talented dancer and an asset to the show.
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