[whoever,hey]

This to me seems like the holy grail of modern mobile phone technology. Since getting a smartphone i am so fed up of my phone only lasting a day from a full charge.

Which phone actually has the best full battery usage? I hope its not iPhone or S3 (owned both) because they are both crap. I miss the day of my nokia 3310 standby time.

[Mark in Essex]

I guess you could have a massive standby time if you turned off all the data, the screen down and just used it for phone calls and texting like the Nokia (can normally get headaches 2 days out of my S3 with low usage).

[whoever,hey]

I'm not on the market for a new phone yet, but i think its the ultimate tech that phone manufacturers need to conquer. I dont want to cripple my phone by disabling everything, i'd turn into my mother inlaw you doesn't turn her phone on unless she wants to ring you! (so you cant ring her! ).

[alan1302]

Think most folk are happy to charge each day though

[jabbamk1]

Galaxy Note 2
LG Optimus G Pro
Motorola Razr HD MAXX
Motorola Razr i
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iPhone 5
Samsung Galaxy S3
etc....

[Step666]

It'll be one of the Motorola MAXX models.

[swordman]

Closely followed by my note 2 took off charge today at 8 and I use it all day a lot still has 51% first smart phone I've ever owned where I don't have to worry about usage at all in a day.

Although granted has a big ******* battery

[November_Rain]

Originally Posted by alan1302

Think most folk are happy to charge each day though

It's not really an issue as long as you get into the habbit of charging your phone overnight, when you will be asleep anyway. It's only a problem if you find you need to recharge more than once daily.

[alanwarwic]

All still useless.

But sorry, I think the S3 with that big MF 7000mah battery add-on is what you need.

[!!11oneone]

Battery will be the next big leap in technology. Other than bigger screens and perhaps more serious gaming, there's little a smartphone can do today that it simply could not do 2 years ago.

However, the first company to bring new batteries to market really will have a superb advance.

My money is on graphite within 3 to 4 years.


Until then, look for a removable battery. I have one in my pocket for my GNex, gets me easily through 18 hours of fairly heavy internet type use.

I also have a battery pack and USB for portable charging that cost about £30 and can keep me going through a long weekend away.

[Step666]

Originally Posted by !!11oneone

Battery will be the next big leap in technology.

I'm not so sure, it's one of those things that's been talked about for years and no great leap has happened.

Batteries have improved though - look at the capacity available in some handsets nowadays.
I think they're more likely to slowly improve than suddenly make a ground-breaking change.

[whoever,hey]

Yeah battery improvement will be iterative rather than revolutionary.

The only good thing though now is that the rest of the tech in phones has probably plateaued energy consumption wise. Now we likely wont be getting more power hungry features, but more energy saving ones. cpu, gpu, screen etc. Screens wont get larger because they will just be tablets anyway which already exist.

[nigelbb]

There is no real need for new battery technology if the phone designers would only get away from their obsession with thinness. Apple could easily double the size of the battery in the iPhone with marginal increase in the size of the phone http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhon...eardown/6610/1

[Bio Max]

Originally Posted by nigelbb

There is no real need for new battery technology if the phone designers would only get away from their obsession with thinness. Apple could easily double the size of the battery in the iPhone with marginal increase in the size of the phone http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhon...eardown/6610/1

Sounds fine to me - I've love to not have to charge my phone all the time. I actually worry about playing games etc coz I don't want the battery to run down - it shouldn't be like that.

[c4rv]

Originally Posted by nigelbb

There is no real need for new battery technology if the phone designers would only get away from their obsession with thinness. Apple could easily double the size of the battery in the iPhone with marginal increase in the size of the phone http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhon...eardown/6610/1

From what I have read with existing manufacturing techniques its not easy to reshape batteries and there is certain thickness steps. Also the circuit board layout has limitation.

Good news is there is newer battery manufacturing techniques coming online and tighter integration of components via SoC should allow larger capacity batteries to be installable. In addition new CPU and screens are more energy efficient.

[TheBigM]

Originally Posted by whoever,hey

This to me seems like the holy grail of modern mobile phone technology. Since getting a smartphone i am so fed up of my phone only lasting a day from a full charge.

Which phone actually has the best full battery usage? I hope its not iPhone or S3 (owned both) because they are both crap. I miss the day of my nokia 3310 standby time.

It used to feel like a pain when we first moved to smartphones but now it seems perfectly normal to charge your phone every day.

The way manufacturers are tackling the issue at the moment is through wireless charging rather than increasing battery capacity. If there are wireless chargers using a common standard everywhere you go (e.g. embedded into tables in coffee shops) then you can constantly keep your battery topped up and worry less about its charge.

[Bio Max]

Originally Posted by TheBigM

It used to feel like a pain when we first moved to smartphones but now it seems perfectly normal to charge your phone every day.

It might feel perfectly normal to you now, but it still feels like a pain to some of us you know (i.e. me). With the technology around us now phones should be able to last much much longer.

[finbaar]

Old dumb Nokia phones lasted ages because all we did was talk and text. We didn’t look at the screen for 4 hours a day whilst syncing email, facebook, twitter etc. OK I would like my phone to last many days between charges but I don’t want to stop using it normally. If I can get through a day without charging that’s fine by me. I see no problem at all with nightly recharges.

[gomezz]

Originally Posted by TheBigM

(e.g. embedded into tables in coffee shops)

Cafe Culture only includes a small fraction of users even though they are irritatingly adept at make sure everyone knows they are around and need to be taken notice of.

[John_Patrick]

In the mean time..... I mean before they can get batteries to be better, they ought to focus on making batteries easier to charge and integrate better with accessories.

Make it easier to charge or dock and charge your phone and people wont be obsessed so much about battery life.

Wireless charging is a good idea but is limited when you have a thicker case on the phone. They make car docks for most smartphones but are often designed for use with no case on them. They need to think out the box and design accessories that work with each other more... ie a car dock and desk dock that would work with cases on. This is where maybe Apple have an advantage.

[alanwarwic]

Originally Posted by John_Patrick

... they ought to focus on making batteries easier to charge and integrate better with accessories.

What I cannot figure out is why they don't launch a range of battery sizes along with the phone launch.

One size never fits all.

[whoever,hey]

Originally Posted by alanwarwic

What I cannot figure out is why they don't launch a range of battery sizes along with the phone launch.

One size never fits all.

The only reason i can think of is that it will change a lot of the design decisions and changes the entire layout of the phone.

If manufacturers offered a choice of battery they wouldn't just make it fatter like the expansion packs you can get for S3. They would want to use the space more efficiently.

[nigelbb]

Originally Posted by nigelbb

There is no real need for new battery technology if the phone designers would only get away from their obsession with thinness. Apple could easily double the size of the battery in the iPhone with marginal increase in the size of the phone http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhon...eardown/6610/1

Originally Posted by c4rv

From what I have read with existing manufacturing techniques its not easy to reshape batteries and there is certain thickness steps. Also the circuit board layout has limitation.

I don't accept that. Third party cases that include an external battery are available. This one has nearly double the battery capacity of the one in the phone yet doesn't make the phone much larger. It would be even slimmer if it were actually built in during manufacture. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Juice-Pack-R...3943954&sr=8-1

[alanwarwic]

Talking of batteries has anyone yet seen an APP that lets you stop charging at a user set figure or say 95%?

[alanwarwic]

Originally Posted by alanwarwic

But sorry, I think the S3 with that big MF 7000mah battery add-on is what you need.

Now available from Amazon UK at £22.
Just Amazon 'S3 7000mah' to find the ZeroLemon.
As per usual the rrp is a farcical number.