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Old 27-04-2013, 00:04
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in the last segment of last weeks episode when MA returned from Oz, I got the distinct impression that MA was actually trying to discreetly say 'it's not all about you' - MA said how Magda had struggled through Christmas, Valentines day, and that she has both hers and Andrew's birthdays to overcome, MA said how their dad was doing "fantastically", but then PA pipes up that he's "hurting inside" to which MA replied (rather agressively I thought) "who isn't?".... then we get a clip of PA on his own in Andrew's old room saying "me, Chris and Danny haven't escaped it" "a lot happened here" "we're suffering a lot because everything happened here".... how long was Andrew in PA's house compared to the life that Magda shared with him??????

I got absolutely slaughtered on here because I couldn't find it in myself to offer sympathy at the time of Andrew's death to someone I knew would milk it for every last drop of attention seeking sympathy he could get out of it....

Peter Andre is one sick d!ckhead...
Really?.. bit harsh... he is more a needy self absorbed twerp... in anyone's life losing a much loved sibling is incredibly traumatic... in PA's bubble where someone can solve his every problem it is probably even more so... I nursed a dying relative through the final stages because they wanted to stay at home... doing this gave me incredible strength because I never looked back and thought if only... I also got involved with counseling about a year later and helping others helped me... I would recommend anybody to find an outlet where they actually physically do something... but how soon you are able to move past the first stages of grief is an entirely personal thing... I do not think PA is faking his pain... I also don't think PA can express anything except in the way it affects him.
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Old 27-04-2013, 00:06
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maybe we interpret it differently because I can see through his act... his not being able to 'escape to oz' was because he explained it was his 1st valentines day with Emsie and filming that was obviously more important to him (IIRC he said he "could have gone"...

you obviously interpretted my referring to him as a "Sick d!ckhead" incorrectly too, I wasn't taking 'taking the p!ss' I was stating my honest evaluation of him

Obviously not.
And I think people see what they want to see.
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Old 27-04-2013, 00:08
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i don't remember which song it was (maybe old age kicking in ), can you let me know which song it was please..
The song he pretended to write in the jungle about their situation was proven to be written months or years before.
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Old 27-04-2013, 00:09
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The song he pretended to write in the jungle about their situation was proven to be written months or years before.
That awful dirge ..Insania ??
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Old 27-04-2013, 00:10
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Really?.. bit harsh... he is more a needy self absorbed twerp... in anyone's life losing a much loved sibling is incredibly traumatic... in PA's bubble where someone can solve his every problem it is probably even more so... I nursed a dying relative through the final stages because they wanted to stay at home... doing this gave me incredible strength because I never looked back and thought if only... I also got involved with counseling about a year later and helping others helped me... I would recommend anybody to find an outlet where they actually physically do something... but how soon you are able to move past the first stages of grief is an entirely personal thing... I do not think PA is faking his pain... I also don't think PA can express anything except in the way it affects him.
I dont necessarily think he's faking it either, I think he's using it to garner sympathy in the most obscene way
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Old 27-04-2013, 00:11
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I also benefited from councilling after watching my father take 7 years to die.. If Peter is struggling then maybe he needs to take that route also


For the record..I do believe Peter is in pain but is to selfish to acknowledge others are also in pain and may want to share their pain and not keep it bottled up because they are so busy cushioning his
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Old 27-04-2013, 00:11
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I am not sure about the so-called 'transplant lie', i.e. whether he was misquoted or if he misunderstood. They would never have allowed a donation from a living donor with the cancer at such an advanced stage.
Not misquoted, his own words:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...e-webchat.html

Hard to believe that he misunderstood something so easily checked...particularly when one is dating a trainee doctor whose father is a doctor. And there is always google.

It is a lie.
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Old 27-04-2013, 00:12
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I also benefited from councilling after watching my father take 7 years to die.. If Peter is struggling then maybe he needs to take that route also
IIRC he said he had..... as he was being filmed driving out the cemetary with gravestones in the backround
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Old 27-04-2013, 00:15
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Not misquoted, his own words:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...e-webchat.html

Hard to believe that he misunderstood something so easily checked...particularly when one is dating a trainee doctor whose father is a doctor. And there is always google.

It is a lie.
I agree another example of him being to stupid to think that other people might check his 'facts'
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Old 27-04-2013, 00:29
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The song he pretended to write in the jungle about their situation was proven to be written months or years before.
ah the little ditty - Insania, sorry i could only recall one song of his pre jungle (and the same one post jungle ) I forgot about Insania, I didn't realise it was classed as a proper song, it was always a ditty to me... was he that short of material he had to pretend to make it up?
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Old 27-04-2013, 00:36
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was he that short of talent he had to pretend to make it up?
Fixed for truth...
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Old 27-04-2013, 00:37
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cheers, i really slipped up and needed editing phew glad you spotted it
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Old 27-04-2013, 01:05
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sorry a post before i go to bed that i'd thought about that didn't seem right to me either-Peter Andre since his brothers death wants to do "something to help" which is i agree is a nice thing to do but again just like his name comes up in the 60 minute make over as "Peter Andre's 60 minute makeover"(which is the first time the programm's ever done that and i dont think it should need his name) hes done the same with his cancer foundation, Generally people set up foundations named after the person who passed away. So this should have been the "Andrew Andre foundation", not the Peter Andre foundation-IMO its always about him "Peter Andre" and not anyone else-that's how it looks to me anyway,
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Old 27-04-2013, 01:25
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sorry a post before i go to bed that i'd thought about that didn't seem right to me either-Peter Andre since his brothers death wants to do "something to help" which is i agree is a nice thing to do but again just like his name comes up in the 60 minute make over as "Peter Andre's 60 minute makeover"(which is the first time the programm's ever done that and i dont think it should need his name) hes done the same with his cancer foundation, Generally people set up foundations named after the person who passed away. So this should have been the "Andrew Andre foundation", not the Peter Andre foundation-IMO its always about him "Peter Andre" and not anyone else-that's how it looks to me anyway,
It should be the 'Andrew Andrea Foundation' his brother's real name. Andre is Peter's stage name.
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Old 27-04-2013, 01:42
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It should be the 'Andrew Andrea Foundation' his brother's real name. Andre is Peter's stage name.
ah that sounds even better i wish he had thought to name it after his brother it wouldn't of crossed my mind to call it anything else as a legacy to him
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Old 27-04-2013, 01:47
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Talk about splitting hairs for the sake of one letter.
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Old 27-04-2013, 08:11
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sorry a post before i go to bed that i'd thought about that didn't seem right to me either-Peter Andre since his brothers death wants to do "something to help" which is i agree is a nice thing to do but again just like his name comes up in the 60 minute make over as "Peter Andre's 60 minute makeover"(which is the first time the programm's ever done that and i dont think it should need his name) hes done the same with his cancer foundation, Generally people set up foundations named after the person who passed away. So this should have been the "Andrew Andre foundation", not the Peter Andre foundation-IMO its always about him "Peter Andre" and not anyone else-that's how it looks to me anyway,
You are spot on re 60 MM, not once has the Presenter's name been in the title & nor should it be unless of course Pete is doing the whole make over himself which would be literally impossible since the daft oaf can't do the most menial tasks without shouting for help from poor Gloria.

And yes it is a good thing he is doing setting up the foundation in light of Andrew's death but of course Pete had to go on National TV to announce it, I'm sure there are plenty of other celebs who do this type of work but don't need to revel in the glory of proving to the world what a "good, decent person" they are.
As for naming the Foundation after himself when of course it should have been named after Andrew, what else are we to expect from this needy, fame hungry twit
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Old 27-04-2013, 09:30
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You are spot on re 60 MM, not once has the Presenter's name been in the title & nor should it be unless of course Pete is doing the whole make over himself which would be literally impossible since the daft oaf can't do the most menial tasks without shouting for help from poor Gloria.

And yes it is a good thing he is doing setting up the foundation in light of Andrew's death but of course Pete had to go on National TV to announce it, I'm sure there are plenty of other celebs who do this type of work but don't need to revel in the glory of proving to the world what a "good, decent person" they are.
As for naming the Foundation after himself when of course it should have been named after Andrew, what else are we to expect from this needy, fame hungry twit
BIB - too true. Lazy incompetant git. Like those idiots who wear their 'dumb' like a badge of honour, Pete revels in his own inability to do anything unaided. I guess his enablers tell him it's endearing.
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Old 27-04-2013, 10:56
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My Life – Ep.4 Reviewage

Tonight’s bright star was DOTY’s friend and unofficial counsellor, Ryan, a lovely guy who, despite the company he’s keeping, remains sane and cheerily immune to DOTY’s neediness. He has it all worked out. When DOTY starts bleating on about something, Ryan says, regardless of what Pete’s bleating on about, “Pete, you’re fit, you look like you’re still in your 20s,” and it shuts the DOTY right down. And Ryan always follows it with one of those ‘like taking candy from a baby’ smiles.

In case you didn’t know, it’s Pete’s 40th birthday

DOTY wants, in the following order, not to be 40, piano lessons, to get his phoenix tattoo enlarged, to get fit and to get CP to get him a new car. The piano lady says yes, CP says yes, Drew takes on the ‘pecs fit for a calendar’ gig and Emily says no to the tattoo enlargement. Emily also says that if he respected her wishes, he wouldn’t do it and finishes by telling him to reconsider, in a doctorish kind of voice. Emily, astonishingly, can’t seem to get enough of DOTY. I tried to detect sarcasm in her reaction to him, waiting for, if not an actual “Dear God in heaven!” to camera, then at the very least, an eye-roll or a raised eyebrow, but no, nothing. Mysterious Girl with knobs on.

That baby thing
There’s a new nanny and DOTY wants everyone to take a H&S refresher course. “Everyone around the children needs to be capable,” he says (to compensate for me being incapable, he doesn’t but should say). Junior spots the manual and the resuscitation doll and asks Pete if he’s having a baby, then says ‘my mum is’, and he hopes it’s a boy. Pete studies the floor and says ‘good’ in a firm ‘case closed’ manner as he doesn’t like to talk about his ex-wife… but then, in best DOTY fashion, gets the mealy-mouthed Gemma to talk about her instead: “Pete lives for his kids,” she says earnestly, “and can only be concerned that they’re happy and cared for when they’re with him, that’s all he can do, that’s where his focus is.” And then adds sanctimoniously, “He doesn’t let what his ex-wife does affect things…” leaving us in no doubt as to her own personal feelings on the matter.

Really DOTY, for shame, so surplus to requirements.

The rest was a dull repetitive blur of Pete doing stuff with The Bros, Pete primping himself up for his birthday party (his vanity is well and truly off the scale), Pete ‘having a sad moment’, Pete losing keys, and yes, you’ve guessed it, Pete keeping his quests waiting for over two hours.

The cake had an edible Pete on top. DOTY thought it was very unflattering. I thought it was an excellent likeness and a huge improvement on the original: it was on time, it didn’t moan and whine, it was useful, it being cake, none of which you can say about Pete. There were gifts, there was flattery, there was a speech, there was another ‘sad moment’, there was gritting of teeth (me), and then there were firm assurances from everyone that this was indeed going to be the Decade of The Pete. To round the evening off, CP, flushed with the great leaps and bounds her protégé has made over the last year, looked proudly to camera and said “I think Pete has finally grown up.”

On the plus side, we can now officially and legitimately say while arguing ‘OFFS, he’s a 40yr old man!!!!!’.
Brilliant Lexi. .

I was going to watch it, as I wanted to see the scene with Emily and Pete chatting about the distance. Emily said things would be better once they lived closer. He kept seeking clarification, as he thought she meant living together and seemed relieved when she finally had to say "within walking distance".

Dont panic Pete, shes only coming on the days she is being filmed and not moving in

Also loved the bit about the tattoo. He looked a bit "whipped" when he didnt assert himself.
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Old 27-04-2013, 10:59
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[quote=Blue Eyed lady;65579583]
What I struck me from the start was, where did new "best friend" Ryan spring from? Unless I've missed something he just appeared from nowhere & I thought Karl owned the "best friend" title

I remember seeing Ryan in a clip from one of PA shows ages ago, it was when PA was on holiday with CP and Nicola Partridge, while they were all walking along you could see and hear Ryan in the back ground rushing up to holiday makers saying "oh look its peter andre" in an attempt to create some interest in PA, so he like karl is just another member of the production team, not saying they arent friends with PA, but it just high lights the fact that PA dosent seem to have any friends that arent being paid to be filmed as his friends by his agency
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Old 27-04-2013, 11:02
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BIB - too true. Lazy incompetant git. Like those idiots who wear their 'dumb' like a badge of honour, Pete revels in his own inability to do anything unaided. I guess his enablers tell him it's endearing.
I think it's part of his "little boy lost" routine to appeal to woman who want to mother him
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Old 27-04-2013, 11:05
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Soon there will be Peter Andre's Sixty Minute Makeover to watch. To see his highness waltzing into people's homes and watching others painting over wallpaper and then blowing a whistle and then greeting the home dwellers upon their return with that smile that looks like he has smelt something disgusting, watching their faces as he shows them the renovated rooms, thank goodness I have a job and will hardly ever see it
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Old 27-04-2013, 11:09
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I had no idea what 60 minute makeover was until I read this thread - though the clue is probably in the name.

Should I set the Sky+ or just continue in blissful ignorance of it's very existence?
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Old 27-04-2013, 11:15
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I had no idea what 60 minute makeover was until I read this thread - though the clue is probably in the name.

Should I set the Sky+ or just continue in blissful ignorance of it's very existence?
Ignore it
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Old 27-04-2013, 11:23
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Soon there will be Peter Andre's Sixty Minute Makeover to watch. To see his highness waltzing into people's homes and watching others painting over wallpaper and then blowing a whistle and then greeting the home dwellers upon their return with that smile that looks like he has smelt something disgusting, watching their faces as he shows them the renovated rooms, thank goodness I have a job and will hardly ever see it
It must have been his recent Ambassador elevation that sealed the deal on renaming the show.
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