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Old 05-05-2013, 20:41
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I didn't say you couldn't - however, I really do not understand why you can only defend him by invoking her. My opinion of her is as low as my opinion of him, so the comparison damns him with very faint praise, and certainly not encouraging me to change my opinion.

The only people who would care about bringing Kp up in the Pa thread are Kp fans. There are not many of them.
She was already there.
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Old 05-05-2013, 20:41
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He was being slated for acting one way with Emily, and another with KP. People went all Victorian about the dry-humping. FM's are trying to point out that people do modify their behaviour according to who they are with. But that just created outrage that he could be so disrespectful to St Katie.
..........why?
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Old 05-05-2013, 20:43
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Huh?
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Old 05-05-2013, 20:43
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I asked you what your post means. Don't accuse me of baiting when your post is the one breaking the rules.
I beg your pardon......
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Old 05-05-2013, 20:44
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He was being slated for acting one way with Emily, and another with KP. People went all Victorian about the dry-humping. FM's are trying to point out that people do modify their behaviour according to who they are with. But that just created outrage that he could be so disrespectful to St Katie.
But that doesn't really address my point, does it? If I wanted to defend someone I liked, who I thought was being unfairly judged, the last person I would compare them to is someone I had no respect for. I would find someone much higher up the scale and compare them favourably to them.

I don't like runner beans. I do like cauliflower. I do not say "At least this cauliflower is not runner beans".

It defeats your argument. However Kp was behaving, Pa is an adult who makes adult choices, He chose to behave like he did. He is responsible for that. No-one else.
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Old 05-05-2013, 20:45
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Seconded.

I get really angry about nobodies extending this rubbish elsewhere.
What does this mean?
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Old 05-05-2013, 20:47
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But that doesn't really address my point, does it? If I wanted to defend someone I liked, who I thought was being unfairly judged, the last person I would compare them to is someone I had no respect for. I would find someone much higher up the scale and compare them favourably to them.

I don't like runner beans. I do like cauliflower. I do not say "At least this cauliflower is not runner beans".

It defeats your argument. However Kp was behaving, Pa is an adult who makes adult choices, He chose to behave like he did. He is responsible for that. No-one else.
You seem to have missed my point again. Oh well.

I don't give a crap about his dry-humping. To me, it was done for a laugh. I don't get all uptight about it.
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Old 05-05-2013, 20:48
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For those of us that like/support/defend neither, it just proves our point - they can only be seen as "good" in comparison with the other. The other thing it proves is how linked they are, even in the minds of the fans/anti-fans.
Can't agree with you there. I'm quite happy to be labelled a 'fan' of Pete but I'm bored to death of them still being linked together and the constant raking over of events that happened years ago. Definitely time to de-couple them. I also prefer to treat posters as individuals rather than 'us' and 'them', and will listen to views across the spectrum, apart from posters who persistently bait others who are best placed on ignore. Not all fans think exactly the same so I presume it's the same case for 'anti-fans', if that's the term you want to use.
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Old 05-05-2013, 20:49
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But that doesn't really address my point, does it? If I wanted to defend someone I liked, who I thought was being unfairly judged, the last person I would compare them to is someone I had no respect for. I would find someone much higher up the scale and compare them favourably to them.

I don't like runner beans. I do like cauliflower. I do not say "At least this cauliflower is not runner beans".

It defeats your argument. However Kp was behaving, Pa is an adult who makes adult choices, He chose to behave like he did. He is responsible for that. No-one else.
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Old 05-05-2013, 20:51
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You seem to have missed my point again. Oh well.

I don't give a crap about his dry-humping. To me, it was done for a laugh. I don't get all uptight about it.
To be fair, you have yet to make a point that answers my question, therefore making it easy to miss. Oh well.
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Old 05-05-2013, 20:53
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Can't agree with you there. I'm quite happy to be labelled a 'fan' of Pete but I'm bored to death of them still being linked together and the constant raking over of events that happened years ago. Definitely time to de-couple them. I also prefer to treat posters as individuals rather than 'us' and 'them', and will listen to views across the spectrum, apart from posters who persistently bait others who are best placed on ignore. Not all fans think exactly the same so I presume it's the same case for 'anti-fans', if that's the term you want to use.
I know this, and I apologise for the generalisation. As to the anti-fan, it seems better than hatah!
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Old 05-05-2013, 20:55
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To be fair, you have yet to make a point that answers my question, therefore making it easy to miss. Oh well.
Agreed.

Other than baiting, I really am confused by the constant need to be rude.
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Old 05-05-2013, 20:55
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I asked you what your post means. Don't accuse me of baiting when your post is the one breaking the rules.
Do you know what Fiz...best not to respond, I shouldn't have bitten earlier (being nobodies an all)
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Old 05-05-2013, 20:56
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To be fair, you have yet to make a point that answers my question, therefore making it easy to miss. Oh well.
What question haven't I answered?
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Old 05-05-2013, 20:58
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..it's like a dog with a bloody bone
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Old 05-05-2013, 20:59
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..it's like a dog with a bloody bone
Harsh, fifi...I really did mean Fifiphillips, you know.
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Old 05-05-2013, 20:59
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Fifi, you're right. I will use the ignore feature for the WUMs & strawman fans.
It's obvious what the 'point' was to anyone without the 'as bad as each other' agenda.
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Old 05-05-2013, 21:02
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Old 05-05-2013, 21:04
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Can't agree with you there. I'm quite happy to be labelled a 'fan' of Pete but I'm bored to death of them still being linked together and the constant raking over of events that happened years ago. Definitely time to de-couple them. I also prefer to treat posters as individuals rather than 'us' and 'them', and will listen to views across the spectrum, apart from posters who persistently bait others who are best placed on ignore. Not all fans think exactly the same so I presume it's the same case for 'anti-fans', if that's the term you want to use.
Well said, Sensei.

That's been bugging me for ages on here, these blanket statements - 'you fans, you people, you lot' - that give the impression of assuming one person's opinion on here represents that of everyone else on a (for want of a better term) 'side'.
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Old 05-05-2013, 21:05
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But that doesn't really address my point, does it? If I wanted to defend someone I liked, who I thought was being unfairly judged, the last person I would compare them to is someone I had no respect for. I would find someone much higher up the scale and compare them favourably to them.

I don't like runner beans. I do like cauliflower. I do not say "At least this cauliflower is not runner beans".

It defeats your argument. However Kp was behaving, Pa is an adult who makes adult choices, He chose to behave like he did. He is responsible for that. No-one else.



In this instance it's about how the two of them interacted, so of course it's pertinent.
Who said he wasn't respnsible for how he behaved???
No-one
But he did respond like with like in THAT relationship...it was something they both appeared happy with.....but a dynamic that won't work in EVERY relationship.
How this has been translated into him being disrespectful to KP or make's Emily a 'saint' is the oddity here.
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Old 05-05-2013, 21:05
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What question haven't I answered?
This one...
I didn't say you couldn't - however, I really do not understand why you can only defend him by invoking her. My opinion of her is as low as my opinion of him, so the comparison damns him with very faint praise, and certainly not encouraging me to change my opinion.

The only people who would care about bringing Kp up in the Pa thread are Kp fans. There are not many of them.
and the same one here...
But that doesn't really address my point, does it? If I wanted to defend someone I liked, who I thought was being unfairly judged, the last person I would compare them to is someone I had no respect for. I would find someone much higher up the scale and compare them favourably to them.

I don't like runner beans. I do like cauliflower. I do not say "At least this cauliflower is not runner beans".

It defeats your argument. However Kp was behaving, Pa is an adult who makes adult choices, He chose to behave like he did. He is responsible for that. No-one else.
again, can't stand either of them, so comparing him to her is like comparing lice and worms to me. Why would you constantly compare his behaviour to the behaviour of someone you dislike and do not respect?
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Old 05-05-2013, 21:13
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It was the subject Betty. He was being attacked for the way he disrespects KP in their shows, because he dry-humped her. How ungentlemanly & disgusting he is etc. So surely someone can answer to that by mentioning her behaviour.
I've just seen a clip where she's having another boob job & she has her anaesthetic. She then starts doing porn moans & feeling herself up. PA just rolls his eyes. That is how she acted on their shows, so for people in her defense to constantly bring up what a smutt he is, is hypocritical.
I don't see anyone defending her behaviour at all..all I saw was someone claiming Peter behaved this way because of her and people pointing out that it was down to him.. She didn't make him do anything..
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Old 05-05-2013, 21:13
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Harsh, fifi...I really did mean Fifiphillips, you know.

Lol ....I know ........I'm just a nobody sob
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Old 05-05-2013, 21:15
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This one...

and the same one here...


again, can't stand either of them, so comparing him to her is like comparing lice and worms to me. Why would you constantly compare his behaviour to the behaviour of someone you dislike and do not respect?
You said they are both as bad as each other. On this thread. Regarding the smut. THAT is why I'm saying he isn't as bad as her. Because YOU were the one comparing them.
When he shoves a bottle up himself for a photo & tells journalists & crowds of the public about his dirty strap-on adventures, then you may have a point.
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Old 05-05-2013, 21:17
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I don't see anyone defending her behaviour at all..all I saw was someone claiming Peter behaved this way because of her and people pointing out that it was down to him.. She didn't make him do anything..
I never said she made him do anything. But he was blamed for the dry blowjob in the car & being smutty. So it's pertinent to mention what actually happened there.
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