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Old 28-05-2013, 14:04
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Sorry Ella there is no excuse ..Harvey's birthday was yesterday and Peter could of organised for one of the many people who surround him to take a gift or get a courier to take a gift to Harvey.
oh im sorry Betty i mis read,i thought Harveys birthday was today and Katie had tweeted this morning that Petey hadn't sent anything and i presumed that Petey would send something in the day-as it was yesterday -no- with todays courier service from all round the World then there is not really any excuse -poor Harvey
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Old 28-05-2013, 14:05
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I almost think we have to take KP's inability to keep her gob shut out of the equation.
Bearing in mind that PA actually went to the trouble of taking her to court to prove that he loved Harvey as much as the other two, you would think that he would be treating all three of them the same.
Whether he can see Harvey or not, organising something for his birthday shouldn't be beyond the capabilities of PA.
I wonder how many times he has forgotten to send a card or a present on Junior or Princess's birthday?
The reason I find this so pathetic is that it's Harvey. Say, for eg. it was Junior who hadn't recieved a card/gift from PA on his birthday, would she post that and then take the risk of it getting back to Junior and upsetting him? And maybe his schoolfriends finding out and teasing him - "your daddy doesn't love you..." etc etc. I doubt it. Whereas with Harvey, there's no danger of that happening since Harvey will not be aware of it. Which makes Harvey a victim just for the sake of KP getting a pop in.

Does that make any sense?
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Old 28-05-2013, 14:15
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What i'm trying to say Betty is...she tweeted this to make Pete look bad..so if he had done something as bad as deciding not to see Harvey anymore there is no way she would have kept quiet about it..IMO.
I do agree with you up to a point - but imo the fact that BOTH his parents are immature, pathetic, attention-seeking morons is not Harvey's fault.
Why couldn't PA have been the father he is always telling us he is, put Harvey before his idiotic mother, and arranged SOMETHING?
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Old 28-05-2013, 14:17
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I think the only thing to resolve this is for that pair of twits to get back together, never IMO have a pair been more suited & let's face it their equally as appalling.
The only things stopping them IMO are he doesn't want to lose the good wholesome image he's somehow managed to build up over the years plus he's terrified of the wrath of CP, he's clearly bored rigid with the nice Ems. Just my own opinion but at least when he was with KP he had a bit of life/spark about him unlike this robotic, Stepford husband he's been molded into.
As for KP, if she could cope with losing face & swallowing a bit of pride I'm sure she'd have him back in a shot. The way she's going through partners & husbands it's very apparent she's looking for someone to match up to Pete but obviously failing miserably.
Yeah K & P for a reunion, think of the magazine deals, TV Shows........Kerching!
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Old 28-05-2013, 14:20
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I do agree with you up to a point - but imo the fact that BOTH his parents are immature, pathetic, attention-seeking morons is not Harvey's fault.
Why couldn't PA have been the father he is always telling us he is, put Harvey before his idiotic mother, and arranged SOMETHING?
See what I mean? A match made in heaven
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Old 28-05-2013, 14:22
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The reason I find this so pathetic is that it's Harvey. Say, for eg. it was Junior who hadn't recieved a card/gift from PA on his birthday, would she post that and then take the risk of it getting back to Junior and upsetting him? And maybe his schoolfriends finding out and teasing him - "your daddy doesn't love you..." etc etc. I doubt it. Whereas with Harvey, there's no danger of that happening since Harvey will not be aware of it. Which makes Harvey a victim just for the sake of KP getting a pop in.

Does that make any sense?
As Peter can have hundreds of pics taken and sold with his other two children on their birthdays I doubt he would miss that opportunity ..
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Old 28-05-2013, 14:23
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The reason I find this so pathetic is that it's Harvey. Say, for eg. it was Junior who hadn't recieved a card/gift from PA on his birthday, would she post that and then take the risk of it getting back to Junior and upsetting him? And maybe his schoolfriends finding out and teasing him - "your daddy doesn't love you..." etc etc. I doubt it. Whereas with Harvey, there's no danger of that happening since Harvey will not be aware of it. Which makes Harvey a victim just for the sake of KP getting a pop in.

Does that make any sense?
It's so bloody difficult to use normal common sense or logic when the subject is these two.
Funnily enough, I came at it from completely the other angle.
I thought that if it had been Junior or Princess, PA could have at least explained to them in terms they could understand, why the present was late - "the postman lost it" , "Daddy was working but he's going to treat you to make up for it", or whatever.
But because it's Harvey, his condition means that his level of understanding is alot less than the other two, and even if there is a reasonable explanation, a) PA may not be able to see him to tell him face to face and b) Harvey wouldn't necessarily understand the explanation.

I don't suppose this makes any sense either
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Old 28-05-2013, 14:24
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Peter has also used Harvey to have a pop at his former wife ..both need to get it together and sort this out..for Harvey's sake ..
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Old 28-05-2013, 14:24
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I think the only thing to resolve this is for that pair of twits to get back together, never IMO have a pair been more suited & let's face it their equally as appalling.
The only things stopping them IMO are he doesn't want to lose the good wholesome image he's somehow managed to build up over the years plus he's terrified of the wrath of CP, he's clearly bored rigid with the nice Ems. Just my own opinion but at least when he was with KP he had a bit of life/spark about him unlike this robotic, Stepford husband he's been molded into.
As for KP, if she could cope with losing face & swallowing a bit of pride I'm sure she'd have him back in a shot. The way she's going through partners & husbands it's very apparent she's looking for someone to match up to Pete but obviously failing miserably.
Yeah K & P for a reunion, think of the magazine deals, TV Shows........Kerching!
This is absolutely true. Peter was far more 'real' when he was with Kate, they were suited perfectly. But even when they were together, it was quite similar to it is now with all the sniping at each other. Maybe they just loved each other too much.
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Old 28-05-2013, 14:25
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Lexi and Azura
I think You are both right..
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Old 28-05-2013, 14:27
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I do agree with you up to a point - but imo the fact that BOTH his parents are immature, pathetic, attention-seeking morons is not Harvey's fault.
Why couldn't PA have been the father he is always telling us he is, put Harvey before his idiotic mother, and arranged SOMETHING?


I don't disagree with you.
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Old 28-05-2013, 14:52
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It's so bloody difficult to use normal common sense or logic when the subject is these two.
Funnily enough, I came at it from completely the other angle.
I thought that if it had been Junior or Princess, PA could have at least explained to them in terms they could understand, why the present was late - "the postman lost it" , "Daddy was working but he's going to treat you to make up for it", or whatever.
But because it's Harvey, his condition means that his level of understanding is alot less than the other two, and even if there is a reasonable explanation, a) PA may not be able to see him to tell him face to face and b) Harvey wouldn't necessarily understand the explanation.

I don't suppose this makes any sense either
Pete will have to buy Harvey a Lamborghini and a Ferrari now to make up for his unDOTY-like behaviour.
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Old 28-05-2013, 14:57
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Every single divorced couple I know try and see their children on their actual birthday... when that is not possible the parent who cannot see them saves cards and presents for the next time they do see them... most people actually enjoy watching their children open the presents they picked them and the children get special days with both parents.

I cannot believe KP did something this spiteful... I agree 100% with Lexi this is just more pathetic point scoring... PA is doing what a huge majority of divorced fathers do every year for birthdays and Christmas... the only difference bing their ex partners aren't putting it out there on twitter hoping the world will condemn him... another example of her ruthless use of Harvey as a weapon.
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Old 28-05-2013, 14:57
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Pete will have to buy Harvey a Lamborghini and a Ferrari now to make up for his unDOTY-like behaviour.
In green ..as Harvey appears to love that colour
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Old 28-05-2013, 15:12
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Every single divorced couple I know try and see their children on their actual birthday... when that is not possible the parent who cannot see them saves cards and presents for the next time they do see them... most people actually enjoy watching their children open the presents they picked them and the children get special days with both parents.

I cannot believe KP did something this spiteful... I agree 100% with Lexi this is just more pathetic point scoring... PA is doing what a huge majority of divorced fathers do every year for birthdays and Christmas... the only difference bing their ex partners aren't putting it out there on twitter hoping the world will condemn him... another example of her ruthless use of Harvey as a weapon.
This is what happens with my son , if he doesn't see his child on their birthday , then presents etc are kept for the next contact .
I don't think this is any different for PA, what happens when KP has both kids for their birthdays , do you not think that PA's gifts etc are kept for when he next has them ? or vice versa ?
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Old 28-05-2013, 15:27
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This is what happens with my son , if he doesn't see his child on their birthday , then presents etc are kept for the next contact .
I don't think this is any different for PA, what happens when KP has both kids for their birthdays , do you not think that PA's gifts etc are kept for when he next has them ? or vice versa ?
Trouble is...Peter currently isn't seeing Harvey at all, so it's not as if they're going to give him gifts next week like usually happens in families.

What a sorry affair.
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Old 28-05-2013, 15:37
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Trouble is...Peter currently isn't seeing Harvey at all, so it's not as if they're going to give him gifts next week like usually happens in families.

What a sorry affair.
None of us know exactly what is going on there , if PA was not bothering about Harvey , you could bet your bottom dollar we would all have heard about it , and all the details from KP,she would have revelled in letting us know what a deadbeat dad he is.
We don't know what arrangements PA has made about Harvey's birthday , or even if he's allowed to or perhaps not even bothered about the lad.
We just don't know , yet some would prefer to believe he didn't care enough about Harvey , I very much doubt that and prefer to wait and see .
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Old 28-05-2013, 15:45
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None of us know exactly what is going on there , if PA was not bothering about Harvey , you could bet your bottom dollar we would all have heard about it , and all the details from KP,she would have revelled in letting us know what a deadbeat dad he is.
We don't know what arrangements PA has made about Harvey's birthday , or even if he's allowed to or perhaps not even bothered about the lad.
We just don't know , yet some would prefer to believe he didn't care enough about Harvey , I very much doubt that and prefer to wait and see .
Momma no matter what arrangements are in place or not in place for Peter to see Harvey ..that is no excuse for not sending the lad a card or gift is it.. The fact he felt happy to phone shows there can't be that big a problem ..
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Old 28-05-2013, 15:48
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None of us know exactly what is going on there , if PA was not bothering about Harvey , you could bet your bottom dollar we would all have heard about it , and all the details from KP,she would have revelled in letting us know what a deadbeat dad he is.
We don't know what arrangements PA has made about Harvey's birthday , or even if he's allowed to or perhaps not even bothered about the lad.
We just don't know , yet some would prefer to believe he didn't care enough about Harvey , I very much doubt that and prefer to wait and see .
Well said Momma As I posted earlier Pete's in Cyprus with J&P which presumably means they missed Harvey's birthday so perhaps he might want them to enjoy the present opening together if for whatever reason he's not able to do so himself. Sounds like the court case is getting closer so I'd guess that's an extra source of tension at the moment but they really should keep the children out of it.
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Old 28-05-2013, 15:49
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None of us know exactly what is going on there , if PA was not bothering about Harvey , you could bet your bottom dollar we would all have heard about it , and all the details from KP,she would have revelled in letting us know what a deadbeat dad he is.
We don't know what arrangements PA has made about Harvey's birthday , or even if he's allowed to or perhaps not even bothered about the lad.
We just don't know , yet some would prefer to believe he didn't care enough about Harvey , I very much doubt that and prefer to wait and see .
Very true..none of us do know, we accept that all we are doing here is speculating. Perhaps KP is afraid to go shouting the odds about Pete's relationship with Harvey because last time she did - he took her to court. Pete says he can't talk about it publicly either so maybe he is the one isn't allowed to say what went on.
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Old 28-05-2013, 15:56
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None of us know exactly what is going on there , if PA was not bothering about Harvey , you could bet your bottom dollar we would all have heard about it , and all the details from KP,she would have revelled in letting us know what a deadbeat dad he is.
We don't know what arrangements PA has made about Harvey's birthday , or even if he's allowed to or perhaps not even bothered about the lad.
We just don't know , yet some would prefer to believe he didn't care enough about Harvey , I very much doubt that and prefer to wait and see .
Which is exactly what KP wanted to suggest. Job done, her fans are happy.
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Old 28-05-2013, 15:58
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Momma no matter what arrangements are in place or not in place for Peter to see Harvey ..that is no excuse for not sending the lad a card or gift is it.. The fact he felt happy to phone shows there can't be that big a problem ..
Betty , I said before that this sort of thing is normal in these cases where there is acrimony between the parents , not for one moment do I think that KP sends birthday cards or presents to the kids when PA has them on their birthdays , in fact , on one of her shows , the christmas PA had the kids and she was alone with Harvey , she phoned them and told them about all the gifts she had for them to open when they got back.
I do not think this is unusual for them , or indeed for many people , so using it to have a bash at PA when we don't know what the arrangements are is very unfair .
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Old 28-05-2013, 16:02
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Which is exactly what KP wanted to suggest. Job done, her fans are happy.
I'm a fan and I'm not happy Lexi.. It's time they both got together ..not communicate through others ..and sorted this out.they should be mature enough to have a child's party in either parents house and the other attend..even if it's only for an hour .. I can't count the amount of times I have had to sit with my ex and be sociable ..because my sons feeling come first .. And on this subject they are BOTH to blame
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Old 28-05-2013, 16:12
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Betty , I said before that this sort of thing is normal in these cases where there is acrimony between the parents , not for one moment do I think that KP sends birthday cards or presents to the kids when PA has them on their birthdays , in fact , on one of her shows , the christmas PA had the kids and she was alone with Harvey , she phoned them and told them about all the gifts she had for them to open when they got back.
I do not think this is unusual for them , or indeed for many people , so using it to have a bash at PA when we don't know what the arrangements are is very unfair .
It's not unusual at all. Many estranged couples do not get together on the exact day. It can be a week later, or maybe longer. Some like to actually see their kids open gifts (like you have said above)

What is also NOT unusual is the fact the mother put this on Twitter. That doesn't surprise me at all. Point scoring of the lowest order. I bet she wouldn't have answered that question at all if the answer were in PA's favour!

This whole episode is music to the ears of certain people I am sure.
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Old 28-05-2013, 16:32
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"this is what Katie Price wanted to suggest,job done her fans are happy"

"this whole episode is music to the ears of certain people im sure"

it didn't take long to change the thread onto the bashing of Katie Price and her fans- funny i thought it was a Peter Andre thread ,
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