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Old 24-03-2013, 16:58
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I don't know whether to laugh or cry at any band that uses mysogenistic imagery or has lyrics about either, satan, black magic, sourcery, Valhalla, etc. For god's sake huys, you're grown up adults, not silly little, 14-year-old boys with 666 written on the back of your denim jackets in marker pen.
So that makes Iron Maiden as pathetic as the rest of them.

The only bands worse than the above are Christian heavy metal bands - truly beyond redemption.
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Old 24-03-2013, 17:05
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I don't know whether to laugh or cry at any band that uses mysogenistic imagery or has lyrics about either, satan, black magic, sourcery, Valhalla, etc. For god's sake huys, you're grown up adults, not silly little, 14-year-old boys with 666 written on the back of your denim jackets in marker pen.
So that makes Iron Maiden as pathetic as the rest of them.

The only bands worse than the above are Christian heavy metal bands - truly beyond redemption.
I don't see anything wrong with Scandanavian bands singing about Norse mythology. After all, it's part of their heritage. Anyone else though, yes, it's rather silly.
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Old 24-03-2013, 17:21
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No, I didn't I thought you were one of those 'If it doesn't make your ears bleed, it aint metal' types.

I'd still argue that those genres are definitely metal though
No, I'm not one of those. My fav metal band is Anvil but I like the symphonic metal stuff even if I'm a bit old for it. Within Temptation, Epica, Therion rather than Nightwish for what it's worth.

I see someone else mentioned the satanic thing...
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Old 24-03-2013, 17:26
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No, I'm not one of those. My fav metal band is Anvil but I like the symphonic metal stuff even if I'm a bit old for it. Within Temptation, Epica, Therion rather than Nightwish for what it's worth.

I see someone else mentioned the satanic thing...
How can you be too old? I'm probably older than you anyway. I don't like this idea that once you get to a certain age, especially if female, then you should just stay at home & listen to MOR. Just like what you like

I'm not familiar with Anvil (must check them out) but the others are great bands

ETA Listening to Anvil - Mothra now. Me like
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67wwn7TFr_g
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Old 24-03-2013, 17:33
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Satanic references in metal I don't like, well mostly. I still like iron maiden. I also like a tune in a song with singing not just constant screaming, a bit of screaming is fine but not more than say 25% or more of the song.

And btw def leppard is awesome even with its use of the word 'rocked'
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Old 24-03-2013, 17:57
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i dont care wahat bands sing about as long as its not that they are 'Rock all night' or 'Rocking til they dropping aint never gonna be stopping'

As i said in a different thread i am not bothered what genre a song or band are from, if it brings out an emotion in me that i will like it, regardless whether its cool or not
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Old 24-03-2013, 18:08
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How can you be too old? I'm probably older than you anyway. I don't like this idea that once you get to a certain age, especially if female, then you should just stay at home & listen to MOR. Just like what you like

I'm not familiar with Anvil (must check them out) but the others are great bands

ETA Listening to Anvil - Mothra now. Me like
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67wwn7TFr_g
Anvil - Metal on Metal, very influential album...they're about the same age as me!
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Old 24-03-2013, 18:32
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Anvil - Metal on Metal, very influential album...they're about the same age as me!
I just looked on their Wiki page. Active since 1978 - how come I'd never heard of them? I guess they must be in their mid/late 50s now.

I'd assumed you were younger

Ah - just discovered why I'd not heard of them. Quite poignant.

http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critic...ci_cinema_lane

http://www.anvilthestoryofanvil.com/
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Old 24-03-2013, 18:59
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Iron Maiden. I cant stand them.
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Old 24-03-2013, 19:34
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Old 24-03-2013, 19:38
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Must admit i can only listen to Maiden albums up until Somewhere in Time, after that it is just the odd song i like
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Old 24-03-2013, 20:00
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Particularly as that song uses "rocked" as a very heavy-handed euphemism for "f***ed". The "I s'pose a rock's out of the question?" line was sub-Carry On innuendo.
But that refers back to the origin of the phrase "Rock & Roll", which was precisely that, a euphemism for sex in what was termed at the time "negro music".

The blues, especially, is littered with such euphemisms.
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Old 24-03-2013, 20:06
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I don't know whether to laugh or cry at any band that uses mysogenistic imagery or has lyrics about either, satan, black magic, sourcery, Valhalla, etc. For god's sake huys, you're grown up adults, not silly little, 14-year-old boys with 666 written on the back of your denim jackets in marker pen.
So that makes Iron Maiden as pathetic as the rest of them.

The only bands worse than the above are Christian heavy metal bands - truly beyond redemption.
But then what is the difference between a band using such lyrics and a religious person? The only difference being is that the religious person is very likely to believe what they are saying, whereas a Bleck Metal band would be very much tongue in cheek. Venom have been mentioned on here and when they were interviewed about their lyrics they said they were intended deliberately to provoke, they certainly didn't believe any of it!

It is the same with Iron Maiden, songs like Bring Your Daughter, Number Of The beast, and Fear Of The Dark, are a nod to the Hammer horror films they grew up with on TV, as I did, and nothing to to with Devil worship. Run To The Hills is in the same vein, it is a tongue-in-cheek reference to cowboy & Indian films.
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Old 24-03-2013, 20:08
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I just looked on their Wiki page. Active since 1978 - how come I'd never heard of them? I guess they must be in their mid/late 50s now.

I'd assumed you were younger

Ah - just discovered why I'd not heard of them. Quite poignant.

http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critic...ci_cinema_lane

http://www.anvilthestoryofanvil.com/
I would highly recommend The Story Of Anvil, it is brilliant and very heart-warming. As for the band themselves, I grew up with them and saw them @ reading in @ '83!
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Old 24-03-2013, 20:12
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I know the difference but what I was getting at is that Symphonic Metal for example is actually more 'Rock' than the symphonic work of prog bands like Yes, Genesis ELP etc. which were actually generally less rock more symphony.
The generic term is Symphonic Metal, but the lines are very, very, blurred. Symphonic metal drives its influences from classical music rather than the traditional sources of Metal.

An example of some of the Symphonic stuff I like....

Pythia - The Circle
Katatonia - Dead Letters
Within Temptation - Angels
Delain - The Gathering
Lunatica - Song For You
Winter In Eden - Torment
Paatos - Hypnotique
Markize - Mechanical Hearts
Amberian Dawn - Arctica
Serenity - The Chevalier
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Old 24-03-2013, 20:23
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Wikipedia has a great page on Sub-Genres of Metal, never heard of most of them myself, i just normally say rock or metal, but one that caught my eye 'Cello Metal' as a big fan of Apocalyptica i didnt know they were now part of a genre
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Old 24-03-2013, 20:23
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The only bands worse than the above are Christian heavy metal bands - truly beyond redemption.
With the exception of Theocracy - they are an excellent Christian Metal band and not too preachy either which is a big plus.. I'm not religious at all but I could listen to this band all day.

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Laying The Demon To Rest

On Eagles Wings

Mirror of Souls

Mirror is Souls is one of my favourite songs of all time, a real epic..
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Old 24-03-2013, 20:28
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With the exception of Theocracy - they are an excellent Christian Metal band and not too preachy either which is a big plus.. I'm not religious at all but I could listen to this band all day.

I Am

Laying The Demon To Rest

On Eagles Wings

Mirror of Souls

Mirror is Souls is one of my favourite songs of all time, a real epic..
Do you remember Stryper
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Old 24-03-2013, 20:30
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Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!


that is all
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Old 24-03-2013, 20:52
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I've never heard any of their songs but I remember a friend telling me about them a few years ago. He thought it was amusing how even though they were a Christian band they used to have photoshoots with guns and tanks and such..
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Old 24-03-2013, 20:57
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I've never heard any of their songs but I remember a friend telling me about them a few years ago. He thought it was amusing how even though they were a Christian band they used to have photoshoots with guns and tanks and such..
IMO they wanted to be like Poison, Bon Jovi etc but didn't have the songs and tried to cash in on the christian scene, but i may be just a cynical old fool!
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Old 24-03-2013, 21:04
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Work that bumblebee fashion.
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Old 24-03-2013, 21:10
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Work that bumblebee fashion.
Maybe he got them confused with W.A.S.P.
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Old 24-03-2013, 21:10
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I just looked on their Wiki page. Active since 1978 - how come I'd never heard of them? I guess they must be in their mid/late 50s now.

I'd assumed you were younger

Ah - just discovered why I'd not heard of them. Quite poignant.

http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critic...ci_cinema_lane

http://www.anvilthestoryofanvil.com/
Good, I introduced the movie at the local art house cinema and contacted Lips beforehand, he was very friendly.

Without Anvil you may not have had Slayer, Megadeth etc.
They deserve respect even if they indulge in a bit of the satanist nonsense too!

I have picked up on a lot more from this thread on symphonic metal. It was actually my daughter who introduced me to this music, that's why I know it but I introduced her to Anvil, Slayer, Metallica etc. and like a few others here, I'm not an Iron Maiden fan, sorry.
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Old 24-03-2013, 21:20
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I would highly recommend The Story Of Anvil, it is brilliant and very heart-warming. As for the band themselves, I grew up with them and saw them @ reading in @ '83!
Well, you're another one who appears to be way older than I'd thought. I'd assumed I was a lot older than everyone else on here. It seems not
Good, I introduced the movie at the local art house cinema and contacted Lips beforehand, he was very friendly.

Without Anvil you may not have had Slayer, Megadeth etc.
They deserve respect even if they indulge in a bit of the satanist nonsense too!

I have picked up on a lot more from this thread on symphonic metal. It was actually my daughter who introduced me to this music, that's why I know it but I introduced her to Anvil, Slayer, Metallica etc. and like a few others here, I'm not an Iron Maiden fan, sorry.
I've also picked up more on Symphonic from the metal threads here. I've never been a metalhead - just liked the odd bit here & there a long time ago. (Sabbath, Priest, Motorhead etc) Then the occasional song in the 80s. Art Rock & Punk was always my thing.My daughter introduced me to Folk & then Power within the past few months & I've been converted. Hurrah!

Never really got to grips with Thrash I'm afraid. Some Metallica but that's about it.
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