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Old 17-04-2013, 13:52
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Was Caroline a petty girl? She wasn't ugly, but I think 'pretty' would have to be a rather broad category to include her.


Anyway, I think that post illustrates a point it wasn't intending to make: that the good looking women can seem more significant and a greater proportion of the HMs than they really are. Note the women you leave out. Caroline wasn't in there only with Deana, Lauren, Sara and Lydia; and if the others are included, things don't seem so 'skewed'.
Caroline and Ashleigh both came into the category of 'scrubs up well'. They could both look very pretty or very plain. Victoria was good looking, but it is always hard to factor age into these things. To take an extreme example, Lesley Brain is always near the bottom, but presumably big hitters like Sara and Louise would be as well if they were 65 years old. And whether Becky is considered pretty depends entirely on how you judge fatness. She seemed to have a pretty face, and looked very young, but she had a fat-pretty face, which is not the same as an unqualified-pretty face. I didn't really want to start on that debate.


Is that "quite" meaning very, or "quite" meaning not very?
It was rather faint praise. In good light, at a good angle they looked pretty; Lisa was slim with 'good bones' and Nadia could look striking.


Anyway, I think Emma (bb5) is considerably better looking than Lesley, and so, really, is Penny. Penny has a much better figure, for example, than the dumpy, blocky bb6-era Lesley.
She was a bit dumpy, but surely made that far worse by wearing absurdly short, tight dresses.
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Old 17-04-2013, 14:01
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Her clothes and style didn't do her much of a favour. There's nothing wrong with her actual looks. https://www.facebook.com/lesley.sanderson.7?ref=ts
She looks very different there. When she was in the house, she looked quite chavvy, which to me is not attractive. Had she looked like she does above when she was in the house, I would have rated her higher.
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Old 17-04-2013, 14:04
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I can't see why Kitten is so low down, shes certainly not an ugly girl and indeed why Carole, although hardly attractive, is surely more appealing than Jackie Stallone xD
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Old 17-04-2013, 14:17
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Let's see who gets placed above her in the next batch for comparison. Lisa BB10, Nadia BB5, Bex BB9, some of the rougher celebs, maybe? Eye of the beholder, I know.
Although we're supposed to ignore personality, it's at least difficult to separate the expressions on a HM's face from their looks; and Lesley face was often expressionless or malevolent. (Sometimes she somehow managed to combine the two.)

Lesley's eyes were quite pretty iirc, when she was chatting with Derek when she entered the house, probably her sexiest feature.
She reminds me a little of Stuart Pilkington.
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Lesley's blank, staring eyes as she lay in the dark after tormenting Sam haunt me to this day.

I don't think typical pictures of Lesley's eyes and of Stu's show them as very similar.
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Old 17-04-2013, 14:45
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Caroline and Ashleigh both came into the category of 'scrubs up well'. They could both look very pretty or very plain. Victoria was good looking, but it is always hard to factor age into these things. To take an extreme example, Lesley Brain is always near the bottom, but presumably big hitters like Sara and Louise would be as well if they were 65 years old. And whether Becky is considered pretty depends entirely on how you judge fatness. She seemed to have a pretty face, and looked very young, but she had a fat-pretty face, which is not the same as an unqualified-pretty face. I didn't really want to start on that debate.
Hmm. People seemed to think that Becky had a face that everyone would see was pretty if she were thinner. I don't think she did.

It's hard to say how we should treat age, but if we go down the road of making adjustments for age, we'll also have to guess what young HMs will look like when they're older and may have lost weight etc.

It was rather faint praise. In good light, at a good angle they looked pretty; Lisa was slim with 'good bones' and Nadia could look striking.
Pic?

She was a bit dumpy, but surely made that far worse by wearing absurdly short, tight dresses.
Lesley looked dumpy and blocky no matter what she wore (or didn't).

Compare Penny in this pic: http://www.virginmedia.com/images/bb_pennyi_431x30.jpg
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Old 17-04-2013, 15:24
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I don't think typical pictures of Lesley's eyes and of Stu's show them as very similar.
I was meaning more a sort of brother/sister general facial resemblance. Not exactly similar but reminiscent -to my mind anyway. It could just be the eyeliner and dainty teeth.
For instance, I also think Federico and Kitten Pinder have a resemblance.
I know what you mean about expressions, there is a certain way someones jaw can look that implies irritability or grudge holding, and it would make me wary, and I do remember Lesley having that kind of expression at times but I think I tried to be fair in thinking of the housemates when they had a neutral or positive expression.
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Old 17-04-2013, 18:50
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And the cull continues. This group of male contestants include a winner and two runners up:

160) Ken Russell (2.5)
Celebrity Big Brother 5

Previous Placings:

2011: 118th (2.36)
2012: 146th (2.22)












159) Ahmed Aghil (2.57)
Big Brother 5

Previous Placings:

2011: 116th (2.39)
2012: 136th (2.57)













158) Sandy Cumming (2.58)
Big Brother 3

Previous Placings:

2011: 121st (2.2)
2012: 135th (2.61)














157) Luke Marsden (2.63)
Big Brother 9

Previous Placings:

2011: 113th (2.43)
2012: 133rd (2.7)













156) George Galloway (2.67)
Celebrity Big Brother 4

Previous Placings:

2011: 122nd (2.13)
2012: 138th (2.56)













155) Dave Vaughan (2.69)
Big Brother 11

Previous Placings:

2011: 120th (2.29)
2012: 143rd (2.34)












154) Shahbaz Chauhdry (2.73)
Big Brother 7

Previous Placings:

2011: 125th (1.96)
2012: 134th (2.62)












153) John Loughton (2.82)
Big Brother Celebrity Hijack

Previous Placings:

2011: 123rd (2.11)
2012: 140th (2.54)












152) Darnell Swallow (2.92)
Big Brother 9

Previous Placings:

2011: 106th (2.96)
2012: 126th (3.08)











151) Eugene Sully (2.94)
Big Brother 6

Previous Placings:

2011: 101st (2.91)
2012: 131st (2.93)
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Old 17-04-2013, 18:51
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It's hard to say how we should treat age, but if we go down the road of making adjustments for age, we'll also have to guess what young HMs will look like when they're older and may have lost weight etc.
Rate them how they appeared on the show for me. As far as possible on first impressions (so e.g. Vanessa BB5 was quite a babe but a few weeks later I was swearing at the screen whenever she appeared).
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Old 17-04-2013, 21:07
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Now it's time for the female entry:


160) Lisa Wallace (3.11)
Big Brother 10

Previous Placings:

2011: 129th (2.51)
2012: 148th (2.65)











And a tie:

=158) Natalie Cassidy (3.15)
Celebrity Big Brother 9

Previous Placings:

2011: N/A
2012: 144th (2.86)











=158) Laura Williams (3.15)
Big Brother 8

Previous Placings:

2011: 126th (2.61)
2012: 141st (2.9)











157) Carole Malone (3.21)
Celebrity Big Brother 5

Previous Placings:

2011: 115th (2.91)
2012: 134th (3.14)











156) Jade Goody (3.23)
Big Brother 3 and Celebrity Big Brother 5

Previous Placings:

2011: 110th (3.15)
2012: 128th (3.4)












155) Allison Hammond (3.24)
Big Brother 3

Previous Placings:

2011: 106th (3.57)
2012: 126th (3.42)











154) Denise Welch (3.28)
Celebrity Big Brother 9

Previous Placings:

2011: N/A
2012: 139th (3.02)











153) Germaine Greer (3.3)
Celebrity Big Brother 3

Previous Placings:

2011: 120th (2.74)
2012: 133rd (3.17)











152) Kathreya 'Kat' Kasisopa (3.31)
Big Brother 9

Previous Placings:

2011: 127th (2.58)
2012: 138th (3.05)











151) Rebecca 'Bex' Shiner (3.33)
Big Brother 9

Previous Placings:

2011: 114th (2.96)
2012: 144th (2.86)
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Old 17-04-2013, 21:41
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Caroline was a pretty girl. .


Brilliant!!
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Old 17-04-2013, 21:46
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The picture you found is from years later and had to be.

There's no picture from bb6 that would make it seem "there's nothing wrong with her actual looks".
Just a face shot from BB6 would do her more favours

I remember having this argument with friends back then. I always thought she had a pretty face
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Old 17-04-2013, 22:10
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I think Jade is the housemate who varied most from really pretty to really ugly. She had a very hyper-mobile face which could contort into clownish shapes. When she wasn't doing that, she could verge on being beautiful.
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Old 18-04-2013, 05:36
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I think Jade is the housemate who varied most from really pretty to really ugly. She had a very hyper-mobile face which could contort into clownish shapes. When she wasn't doing that, she could verge on being beautiful.
Hmm. Most of the time when she's not contorting her face, she looks ok, but she's still not really pretty or verging on beautiful.

There are some pictures of her that fit the idea that she could verge on being beautiful, but I'm not sure what to think of them.

This may be as good a time as any to mention the curious phenomenon that some HMs look quite different in outside-BB pictures that appear in newspapers and magazines than they did while they were in the house and we were seeing them via the tv cameras. For example, I don't think Tania do Nascimento looks as good in pictures as she did in the house. And I don't think Jade ever looked as good in the house as she does in some pictures.
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Old 18-04-2013, 08:37
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Just a face shot from BB6 would do her more favours

I remember having this argument with friends back then. I always thought she had a pretty face
Agree so did I, just a horrible personality.
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Old 18-04-2013, 08:40
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Hmm. Most of the time when she's not contorting her face, she looks ok, but she's still not really pretty or verging on beautiful.

There are some pictures of her that fit the idea that she could verge on being beautiful, but I'm not sure what to think of them.

This may be as good a time as any to mention the curious phenomenon that some HMs look quite different in outside-BB pictures that appear in newspapers and magazines than they did while they were in the house and we were seeing them via the tv cameras. For example, I don't think Tania do Nascimento looks as good in pictures as she did in the house. And I don't think Jade ever looked as good in the house as she does in some pictures.
I agree about Tania, I think she's pretty in the pictures, but she was stunning in the house.
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Old 18-04-2013, 13:56
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This may be as good a time as any to mention the curious phenomenon that some HMs look quite different in outside-BB pictures that appear in newspapers and magazines than they did while they were in the house and we were seeing them via the tv cameras. For example, I don't think Tania do Nascimento looks as good in pictures as she did in the house. And I don't think Jade ever looked as good in the house as she does in some pictures.
Yes, when you asked for a picture of Nadia looking striking I gave up, because the house pictures were not that good. Here is one of her that must have been soon afterwards, but looking better.
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Old 18-04-2013, 15:49
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I thought Caroline was pretty (although she didn't make the best of her looks in the house) in an understated, English Rose kind of way. It's partly in the eye of the beholder I guess!
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Old 18-04-2013, 16:11
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Rate them how they appeared on the show for me.
Yes, but the problem was about how we should evaluate the way they looked during BB, and in this case about whether we should compensate for age in some way. My point (which seems to have been unclear ) was that if we do that for older HMs such as Lesley Brain (60), we presumably ought to adjust for other ages too, including for young HMs for ways they might be at a disadvantage.

And there's now another example of an older HM who seems to be at an unfair disadvantage. There does seem to be something wrong about Germaine Greer finishing 153rd and with an average rating of only 3.3.

OTOH, I don't think it's clear how to adjust for age, especially if we're to do it generally and not just for HMs over 50, and I don't make any such adjustments (at least not consciously).

As far as possible on first impressions (so e.g. Vanessa BB5 was quite a babe but a few weeks later I was swearing at the screen whenever she appeared).
I don't think Vanessa was a babe. (Her head was amusingly likened to a bean.) So Vanessa seeming a babe at first seems a point against 1st impressions to me.

Also, consider a HM like Aisleyne. She looked so different at other times that I don't think going by 1st impressions can be right.

Then there are HMs you don't notice at first but see are very good looking once you do (Sam bb6 for me).

And those probably aren't the only sorts of cases that cast doubt on the idea.
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Old 18-04-2013, 16:47
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Re Lesley bb6:

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I know what you mean about expressions, there is a certain way someones jaw can look that implies irritability or grudge holding, and it would make me wary, and I do remember Lesley having that kind of expression at times but I think I tried to be fair in thinking of the housemates when they had a neutral or positive expression.
Wouldn't it be more fair to take a kind of average over all the different ways they looked? To get Lesley to come out as good looking, or even as having a pretty face, it seems to me she has to be taken at an atypical best.

Just a face shot from BB6 would do her more favours

I remember having this argument with friends back then. I always thought she had a pretty face
Agree so did I, just a horrible personality.
I don't agree. Take away Lesley's horrible personality, and she still wasn't good looking.

What I say to the idea that Lesley had a pretty face is what I said to Wonkey's idea that Caroline was a petty girl: she wasn't ugly, but I think 'pretty' would have to be a rather broad category to include her.

When you hear that someone is pretty, does that really call up someone like Lesley to your mind?

And Nadia:

Yes, when you asked for a picture of Nadia looking striking I gave up, because the house pictures were not that good. Here is one of her that must have been soon afterwards, but looking better.
That's a good choice. Still, if that's striking, then imo it's the sort of striking that someone who isn't good looking can achieve with the help of clothes and makeup.
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Old 18-04-2013, 19:30
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I don't think Vanessa was a babe. (Her head was amusingly likened to a bean.) So Vanessa seeming a babe at first seems a point against 1st impressions to me.

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I think that must be the other Vanessa. No one called Vanessa Nimmo 'Vanetha'. Vanessa Nimmo WAS a babe - http://www.imgth.com/images/2012/06/...8ne31k71y2.jpg (Blimey) but in a rather barbie doll way that doesn't appeal to me especially. I saw that earlier you said something about being good looking in an interesting way, which is a nice concept. I remember once years ago flicking through a glossy magazine and suddenly stopping and looking at Kate Bush (then young) and thinking - "that's another way to be beautiful".
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Old 18-04-2013, 20:40
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At the request of some people I will forgo posting images until the top 100.

Here are the males and females ranked from 150-141, with the males first:

150) Leo Sayer (2.98)
Celebrity Big Brother 5

Previous Placings:

2011: 117th (2.37)
2012: 132nd (2.91)











149) Andrew Edmonds (3.06)
Big Brother 11

Previous Placings:

2011: 93rd (3.22)
2012: 120th (3.32)











148) Herjender 'Gos' Gosal (3.07)
Big Brother 4

Previous Placings:

2011: 108th (2.69)
2012: 130th (2.94)











And a male tie:
=146) Craig Coates (3.1)
Big Brother 6

Previous Placings:

2011: 109th (2.63)
2012: 127th (3.04)











=146) Sam Brodie (3.1)
Big Brother 7

Previous Placings:

2011: 119th (2.3)
2012: 125th (3.15)










And another tie:
=144) Marcus Akin (3.12)
Big Brother 10

Previous Placings:

2011: 115th (2.39)
2012: 124th (3.23)











=144) Kenneth Tong (3.12)
Big Brother 10

Previous Placings:

2011: 86th (3.39)
2012: 119th (3.35)











143) David Ramsden (3.13)
Big Brother 10

Previous Placings:

2011: 100th (2.96)
2012: 128th (3.02)











142) Les Dennis (3.21)
Celebrity Big Brother 2

Previous Placings:

2011: 111th (2.57)
2012: 129th (3)











141) Chris James (3.24)
Big Brother 13

Previous Placings:

2011: N/A
2012: N/A
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Old 18-04-2013, 21:06
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And now for the females:

150) Nadia Almada (3.43)
Big Brother 5

Previous Placings:

2011: 118th (2.85)
2012: 137th (3.07)











And a tie:
=148) Lea Walker (3.47)
Big Brother 7

Previous Placings:

2011: 112th (3.02)
2012: 135th (3.12)











=148) Heidi Fleiss (3.47)
Celebrity Big Brother 7

Previous Placings:

2011: 111th (307)
2012: 132nd (3.24)











147) Caroline O'Shea (3.57)
Big Brother 1

Previous Placings:

2011: 109th (3.35)
2012: 117th (3.97)











146) Angel McKenzie (3.65)
Big Brother 10

Previous Placings:

2011: 116th (2.89)
2012: 131st (3.25)











145) Alexandra DeGale (3.69)
Big Brother 9

Previous Placings:

2011: 119th (2.74)
2012: 129th (3.32)











144) Lisa Jeynes (3.72)
Big Brother 4

Previous Placings:

2011: 101st (3.71)
2012: 122nd (3.68)











143) Anne Diamond (3.74)
Celebrity Big Brother 2

Previous Placings:

2011: 113th (3)
2012: 125th (3.47)











142) Lisa Huo (3.75)
Big Brother 7

Previous Placings:

2011: 102nd (3.69)
2012: 127th (341)











141) Bonnie Holt (3.79)
Big Brother 7

Previous Placings:

2011: 108th (3.41)
2012: 123nd (3.67)
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Old 18-04-2013, 23:17
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Alexandra should be higher. Horrible girl but should be higher
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Old 18-04-2013, 23:21
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Re Lesley bb6:



I don't agree. Take away Lesley's horrible personality, and she still wasn't good looking.


When you hear that someone is pretty, does that really call up someone like Lesley to your mind?
Sorry, still disagree.
This was her during BB6. Forget her body and just look at the face. I think that is a good looking face

http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/bb6_lesley/
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Old 18-04-2013, 23:27
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I think that must be the other Vanessa. No one called Vanessa Nimmo 'Vanetha'. Vanessa Nimmo WAS a babe - http://www.imgth.com/images/2012/06/...8ne31k71y2.jpg (Blimey) but in a rather barbie doll way that doesn't appeal to me especially. I saw that earlier you said something about being good looking in an interesting way, which is a nice concept. I remember once years ago flicking through a glossy magazine and suddenly stopping and looking at Kate Bush (then young) and thinking - "that's another way to be beautiful".
I somehow read "bb5" as "bb6".

But in my defense, the post said "Vanessa BB5 was quite a babe but a few weeks later I was swearing at the screen whenever she appeared". Vanessa Nimmo went out in week 4, so it seemed to me to be about someone who'd lasted longer.
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