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Old 30-03-2013, 23:47
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What do you guys think of T-Mobile's uncarrier plans?

So old news now but T-Mobile USA had an Uncarrier event last month where they announced their new contract pricing. Rather than the contract being 24 months for the phone it was only 24 months for the handset. So you'd pay $20pm for the handset over 24 months (=$480) and the airtime would be on a one month rolling contract. So you could go for Unl Mins/Texts/Data for $70 a month. As this is a one month contract you could cancel at any time, or switch to a lower plan/PAYG/different network with just 30 days notice. Obviously you'd still keep paying the $20pm for the handset. So in total if you stuck with the same plan you'd pay $90pm including the handset fee every month. Or if you want you could just pay $450 upfront for the handset.

Now in the USA there are advantages to this, as well as disadvantages, the main one being you can't actually unlock the phone and move network so you pretty much have to stick with T-Mobile.

But would you guys think it'd work in the UK? Lets use this example-

If you wanted to buy the Samsung Galaxy S3 on a plan similar to this you'd pay 49 upfront and then 15pm for 24 months (409). Or you could buy the handset out right at a one off cost of 349.

Then you'd choose a one month rolling contract, for example Unlimited Calls/Texts/Data for 21pm on a 30 day agreement. So in effect you'd be paying 36pm inc the 15pm handset charge for 24 months, but you could always cancel the 21pm contract or change it to a lower one or move networks etc...

So what do you think? Good idea? Basically you're buying the phone on credit and paying it off with interest every month and using whichever sim only/payg you want. Sure you could buy the handset outright but do you think this would suit people who don't want to have to spend 500 in one go on the latest handsets? Or is it just a dumb idea that networks would abuse?
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Old 30-03-2013, 23:52
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I think we do already have this here - all of our networks offer sim-only plans which are similar (if not the same) to the ones offered with handsets, only cheaper. The only difference is that the phone isn't listed separately on the bill.

The only reason this is such a big deal in the US is that the sim-only plans in America have never usually been cheaper than their with-phone counterparts.
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Old 31-03-2013, 00:03
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I think we do already have this here - all of our networks offer sim-only plans which are similar (if not the same) to the ones offered with handsets, only cheaper. The only difference is that the phone isn't listed separately on the bill.

The only reason this is such a big deal in the US is that the sim-only plans in America have never usually been cheaper than their with-phone counterparts.
What do you mean by cheaper? If you want to buy an S4 you'd have to pay 530 ish upfront. But on this method you could pay 99 today and then 20 over 24 months to pay off the phone (580)
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Old 31-03-2013, 00:06
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What do you mean by cheaper? If you want to buy an S4 you'd have to pay 530 ish upfront. But on this method you could pay 99 today and then 20 over 24 months to pay off the phone (580)
I meant sim-only plans are cheaper than plans with phones.

We effectively already pay for plan + extra for phone - it's just not split up this way on the bill.
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Old 31-03-2013, 00:08
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I meant sim-only plans are cheaper than plans with phones.

We effectively already pay for plan + extra for phone - it's just not split up this way on the bill.
I see what you mean now, but the thing there is that you're set paying a high monthly fee with a set amount of mins/texts and you have to stay for 24 months. On this version you can change/cancel at any time.

So it's like a sim only plan, but one where the handset is paid off in instalments rather than the whole 530 upfront in one payment.
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Old 31-03-2013, 02:36
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I think it's a great way of doing things and it makes price comparison much easier too.

It would be great if Carphone Warehouse could do handset contracts and not even bother with the phone contracts.

So all the networks just do sim-only etc.

The main difference is that in our competitive market, by getting an expensive handset on a high tariff, often the networks will sacrifice some margin and give the phone some subsidy to make it cheaper than sim free phone + sim only plan.
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Old 31-03-2013, 02:45
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It would be great if Carphone Warehouse could do handset contracts and not even bother with the phone contracts.
The only reason T-Mobile can do it is that they also make profit from the service, in the situation you're describing CPW wouldn't get a cut of the profit from the SIM-only tariff.
So the only way for them to make a profit then would be to charge over-the-odds for the handset, which would probably prove unpopular.

Also it would place a lot of risk on CPW, in case people didn't pay off the handset contract - under current contract methods, the cost of the handset is covered by the network when CPW connect it up (along with a profit-margin for them), meaning they don't end up out-of-pocket.


It would need a network to do this but I don't see it happening in the UK anyway - tariffs are so competitive anyway that I doubt this system would prove to be any better than what's already available.
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Old 31-03-2013, 02:54
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I agree that i don' see it happening here as the networks already have great deals, and tbh i don't see many people who would go on a monthly plan for a handset and ending up paying more over 24 months (but it would appeal to some)

The only advanage i could see is that it's not a traditional 24 month contract for the airtime so you can cancel whenever you want and not be tied in to a 35+pm contract.
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Old 31-03-2013, 09:04
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Phones4u doing this already with JUMP

And vodafone do a similar leasing deal
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Old 31-03-2013, 09:33
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I see what you mean now, but the thing there is that you're set paying a high monthly fee with a set amount of mins/texts and you have to stay for 24 months. On this version you can change/cancel at any time.

So it's like a sim only plan, but one where the handset is paid off in instalments rather than the whole 530 upfront in one payment.
how would that compare to getting a loan for the handset + siim only plan ?
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Old 31-03-2013, 12:38
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Phones4u doing this already with JUMP
Jump is markedly different, it's almost the opposite.
The point of T-Mobile US's plans is that even though you are paying off the phone over 24 months, you can change the service. On Jump, the service is fixed for 24 months and you can change the handset - quite often by incurring increasing costs when you do.


And vodafone do a similar leasing deal
And leasing's leasing, it's completely different.
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Old 31-03-2013, 14:06
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how would that compare to getting a loan for the handset + siim only plan ?
Good point, guess it'd be the same. But this would be from the network directly i guess so no need to go through a third party for anything.

Jump is markedly different, it's almost the opposite.
The point of T-Mobile US's plans is that even though you are paying off the phone over 24 months, you can change the service. On Jump, the service is fixed for 24 months and you can change the handset - quite often by incurring increasing costs when you do.


And leasing's leasing, it's completely different.
Like Step said, these services are different to the ones above. It has a fair few advantages over jump and leasing as you actually own the phone and can cancel at any time.
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