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Old 01-04-2013, 03:30
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Been using Avast for several years and never had any problems with it and, more importantly, I don't recall it ever pestering me to update anything.

After installing the most recent update (I think that's when it started, at least) I notice that Avast is now pestering me to install the latest versions of Adobe Air, Java and some other things.

I must say, pop-ups always give me the heeby-jeebies and seeing my AV software asking me to install 3rd-party updates is quite un-nerving.
It seems like there's the potential for somebody to create a malicious pop-up which looks like the Avast updater and actually gets you to install malware.

Anybody else noticed this with the latest version of Avast (or had it with previous versions) and is it a good idea?

I'd rather my AV was self-contained and simply auto-updated itself as required from it's own server.
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Old 01-04-2013, 03:39
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I noticed this, too. Seems to be a new addition, along with the major overhaul of the UI.

Open Avast, click on Software Updater and then click 'stop' if you don't like it.

Most of the stuff it checks are things that, by not updating, could be security risks but, yes, there's a possibility this could be compromised but, then, so could many things.
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Old 01-04-2013, 05:09
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Kinda makes me wonder, though, you'd think that Alwil would be able to come to some kind of arrangement where they'd be allowed to provide the required updates from their own server without using pop-ups to get people to install required software.

I guess it's all to do with the licensing and use of PD software.

Just seems a bit clunky and unneccesary to me though.
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Old 01-04-2013, 06:22
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If you dont like Avast switch to
www.cloudantivirus.com
Free edition works for me & it updates in the background
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Old 01-04-2013, 10:43
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I am thinking of going back to paid Avast from MSE, I also have an XP machine and asked them what happens after April 2014 with Avast on XP. This is their answer

"Thank you for your email.

The support stops at the same time as the Microsoft' support.

If I can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact me
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So now you know.
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Old 01-04-2013, 11:06
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Interesting that there would be no more Avast program updates after this time next year.

I think Avast is getting a bit bloated now, not sure if I'll change yet though. Don't really like the Software Updater - it picked out Java (update doesn't progress on my PC), Adobe, winzip, micro-torrent and a couple of other things. I can see it would be useful to someone less familiar with software updates, but I've switched it off now.
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Old 01-04-2013, 11:49
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Interesting that there would be no more Avast program updates after this time next year.

I think Avast is getting a bit bloated now, not sure if I'll change yet though. Don't really like the Software Updater - it picked out Java (update doesn't progress on my PC), Adobe, winzip, micro-torrent and a couple of other things. I can see it would be useful to someone less familiar with software updates, but I've switched it off now.
To clarify those updates that are stopping are for the XP version and Avast is still nippy, I wouldn't class it as bloated, just the new UI doesn't do it any favours. I didn't notice any significant slow down due to the software updater but switched it off as the popups were annoying.
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Old 01-04-2013, 12:04
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I am thinking of going back to paid Avast from MSE, I also have an XP machine and asked them what happens after April 2014 with Avast on XP. This is their answer

"Thank you for your email.

The support stops at the same time as the Microsoft' support.

If I can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact me
".

So now you know.
Its worth bearing in mind that the definition updates would probably be still available for a while afterwards unless the AV companies make significant changes in future versions. End of support doesn't normally mean the applications you already have will cease to function, but that the vendor wont help you with any problems you are having or add new functionality.
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Old 01-04-2013, 12:09
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Its worth bearing in mind that the definition updates would probably be still available for a while afterwards unless the AV companies make significant changes in future versions. End of support doesn't normally mean the applications you already have will cease to function, but that the vendor wont help you with any problems you are having or add new functionality.
Agreed.
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Old 01-04-2013, 12:48
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prompting users to have latest versions of plugins from adobe, Oracle Java etc is a very good idea -- as there's a % of users that don't bother, leaving their computers open to risk of attack -- if you already do keep these plugins up to date it could be seen as annoying I suppose BUT as they can have emergency updates within a week or 2 of last time you updated it's a worthwhile reminder
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Old 01-04-2013, 13:57
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It's such a strange set of applications that Avast deals with. Adobe Air, main browsers, OK, but why get upset if Irfanview or 7Zip are out of date? Why not any of the raft of other software I have installed?

Trouble is, if you intend to rely on something like Avast to do your software upgrades for you, it needs to be either a reasonably comprehensive list (which is not what Avast is for) or a very limited list of core applications and security-sensitive drivers. At the moment the Avast software updater seems like an afterthought that needs more work.
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Old 01-04-2013, 14:09
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To clarify those updates that are stopping are for the XP version and Avast is still nippy, I wouldn't class it as bloated, just the new UI doesn't do it any favours. I didn't notice any significant slow down due to the software updater but switched it off as the popups were annoying.
Yup, sorry. Previous poster to mine mentioned XP so I forgot to include it in my post as I also use XP. Agree with comment on the new interface though and perhaps it isn't bloated but it seems to be heading in that direction, unfortunately. I've also switched off the software updater but may turn it on now and again to see if it does find updates.

prompting users to have latest versions of plugins from adobe, Oracle Java etc is a very good idea -- as there's a % of users that don't bother, leaving their computers open to risk of attack -- if you already do keep these plugins up to date it could be seen as annoying I suppose BUT as they can have emergency updates within a week or 2 of last time you updated it's a worthwhile reminder
Unless it's a Java update that is know to have a major security flaw! That's one of the reasons I switched the Software Updater off.
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Old 01-04-2013, 14:17
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Unless it's a Java update that is know to have a major security flaw! That's one of the reasons I switched the Software Updater off.
main security flaw in Java is the vulnerable web platform plugin & unless you need java for some application to work tiz best not to have it at all really --- if sometime down the line you really need the runtime for an app to work can use the portable version from a usb stick.
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Old 01-04-2013, 15:07
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I have Java installed to run some webcam monitoring software.
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Old 01-04-2013, 17:10
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Have just downloaded Java v7.17 and noticed there's an option to turn off Java in the browser, so I've done that and my webcam still works.
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Old 02-04-2013, 09:42
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Interestingly/annoyingly the software updater has somehow managed to restart itself on my machine...
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Old 02-04-2013, 10:01
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Java patches are always to fix security flaws though. There are so many. Its the most vulnerable parts of modern PCs. Its best to not have it installed, but i do also for web monitoring software.
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Old 03-04-2013, 12:53
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Interestingly/annoyingly the software updater has somehow managed to restart itself on my machine...
Yes I'm getting that too - after a reboot it seems to re-enable itself.

I've just had it flag up there's a critical software update to download, but I downloaded Java 7 yesterday and it's saying I still have version 6.0.290.11 and there's a 6.0.390.4 available.

So that's one that's getting added to the "ignore" list and the software updater being switched off (again).
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Old 03-04-2013, 13:22
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Yes I'm getting that too - after a reboot it seems to re-enable itself.
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There was a tick-box that I'd missed in the actual settings, I'm hoping that's done the trick but haven't done a reboot to test it yet...

ETA: scrap that, didn't work...

see post #2 here: http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=116445.0 <-- this worked
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Old 03-04-2013, 14:13
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Thanks for the link.
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