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Old 04-04-2013, 19:25
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Some points;

1) People who see the nudity in GoT as porn clearly lead sheltered lives
2) Don't read the books - if you don't like the sex in the series, then you'll positively freak out with the books
3) Is GoT marketed as 'family entertainment'?
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Old 04-04-2013, 21:28
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I agree. The Hunger Games is another movie that would have been so much better if it had shown the true brutality of battle.

I am so sick of everything needing to be sanitised in order to be 'family-friendly'. In the past decade, the number of movies that have reached the US box office top 10 which are rated R has plummeted by a whopping 30%. Cinema is moving towards a place where everything must be oriented around children. I don't want television to follow suit.

The problem is with society's attitude towards sex and nudity not with the sex and nudity.
Yes, it's their vision and they should feel free to do whatever they want (as long as the actors are cool with it). If you're unhappy stop watching.If they made you feel like a pervert you weren't fighting your corner well enough.

If the shows was made be PG, they wouldn't be adapting the books very closely. Swearing, violence and sex all appear in the books.


the whole issue of porn, nudity and violence is massive. I hadnt realised that HBO is specifically designed as an adult channel, and wonder if as GOT is meant as an over 18 show, perhaps some of the recent advertising and publicity in the UK is a bit misleading???

I like GOT , and so far im finding it unnecessary to see quite so much nudity.

But personally I prefer the allusion of sex and violence rather than actually seeing it portrayed in almost real life. I know brutal acts happen in war, but im not living in a war situation.



I do wonder however how much choice the actors and actresses are given re nudity? I was amazed at how rarely Dany wore clothes in the first few episodes. like her nude bath scene. It did suceed in making me feel as if she was just a tool for men to drool over and use. And when the dragons were born, I thought she just looked massively uncomfortable standing there naked.


There are scenes from the books coming up , that on one level im fascinated at how they are going to try and show those on TV. But I dont think I do really want to see them, or see the actors and actresses involved have to act some of them out.



And the scene with Littlefinger and the 2 girls reenacting a lesbian scene, isnt from the books.......so ive no idea of the point of this scene,???
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Old 04-04-2013, 22:24
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This shouldn't be such a sensitive issue. All the nudity in the show has made it more interesting than if it wasn't in. The very spirit of Martin's story is 'no holds barred' and the content of the series reflects that!
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Old 05-04-2013, 00:33
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I've seen enough of Alfie Allen's nob to last me a lifetime.
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Old 05-04-2013, 03:38
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i found an interview from GRRM to ring very very true on this matter. he basically said that he could write in specific graphic detail the gruesome gore of a battle sequence, describing the brutality of an axe crushing through a skull and splattering blood and brains everywhere, and no one would blink an eyelid. infact, people would actually applaud it and beg for more.
but describe in similar detail the act of sex, and the world and it's mother recoils in outrage.

so why is something as natural and basic - nay, as fundementally crucial to our own existance! - regarded as being so horrific and a taboo to be frowned upon, as opposed to the actually horrific acts of violence designed to brutally kill people being not only perfectly accepted, but actually welcomed???...



for what it's worth, i don't actually care, so long as i get some naked jon snow cave sex!
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Old 05-04-2013, 10:22
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That's a shame cos this non-14-year-old online gaming male loves it.
As I am assuming you were claiming that the target audience must be 14-year-old males who like online gaming, I fear that they've completely failed then as they've attracted the viewing attention of this 43-year-old mother of one.
Thats the way to do it!

Honestly! Its on later for a reason!
Its set in a medieval land with mild fantasy leanings, so, in keeping with those less sophisticated periods - its main motivations will be violence,sex and religious themes, hello!
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Old 05-04-2013, 11:15
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And the scene with Littlefinger and the 2 girls reenacting a lesbian scene, isnt from the books.......so ive no idea of the point of this scene,???
I foreshadowed his betrayal of Ned. He tells the girls that the men know they fake their pleasure with them but when done correctly men believe that maybe this girl really does enjoy his efforts.
Ned knew Littlefinger was untrustworthy and was capable of stabbing him in the back yet he still put his life in his hands when he confronted Joffrey.

Game of Thrones is a rich tapestry of sex, violence, intrgue, magic, betrayal, ambition, honour et al.
Remove any of the elements and you eminish it. You 'could' remove the sex or the violence, course language or nasty characters and put in on after Doctor Who on a saturday evening. It might get more viewers but it would not be the show we all love.
Also this show has been on for two previous seasons, seems strange to complain about this now. Although there were similar discussions for the previous two seasons.

TV has changed from when sex was only in soft porn, so if you saw some boobs it meant you were watching soft porn. These days there should be no embarrassment about watching a show that has some boobs on display. Cable channels like HBO and Showtime make gritty adult dramas and part of that grittiness is sex, part is stronger language and another part is violence. Sure shows like The Sopranos and Dexter could have been made with out these elements but they would have been weaker shows.
People not know that there would be boobs in this obviously don't watch anything else by HBO! if HBO made a show about retired nuns in an old folks home there would be boobs and swearing.
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Old 05-04-2013, 11:39
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If the show was made PG everyone could watch it without feeling ashamed.
Absolutely not. There are way too many shows on TV with their balls chopped off, because someone like you might be a bit embarrassed.

GOT is a grown up show, about people with absolute power living in a violent world, and whose lives may end at any time. They like to live life to the full. If you can't handle that, stick with Noddy.
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Old 05-04-2013, 14:33
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Porn really?

Sex yes.

Just get over it.
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Old 05-04-2013, 17:09
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I actually thought that was a good scene. We learned a lot about Baelish's character n that scene. Not only the story he told, but his instructions to the whores showed how he understood the human psyche and how to manipulate people, plus his personal indifference to the scene going o before him showed us how he viewed the whole sordid affair.
I didn't listen to a word he said in that scene for some reason...


There are a hell of a lot of posts saying "there is no porn, just nudity and sex"

What exactly is porn if not nudity and sex?

Whatever your views on the actual sexual content, people are fooling themselves if they think it isn't gratuitous - of course it is!
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Old 05-04-2013, 18:10
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There are a hell of a lot of posts saying "there is no porn, just nudity and sex"

What exactly is porn if not nudity and sex?
A couple of actresses on the show are actual hardcore porn stars, and if you do bit of a search on them you'll soon see the difference between "nudity and sex" and porn.
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Old 05-04-2013, 18:43
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I hadnt realised that HBO is specifically designed as an adult channel.
HBO isn't designed as an adult channel and shows a massive variety of programming.

What exactly is porn if not nudity and sex?
I'm hoping that's a rhetorical question and you don't really need an explanation on the difference.

Game of Thrones is a fantasy series not a set of children's books, the source material is full of violence, sex, nudity and other "distasteful" things, I'm surprised at anyone's objection to the same things appearing in the TV adaptation.
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Old 06-04-2013, 02:10
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Those who have read the books will know GOT is far from a kids tale after all much of the story's premise is based on the discovery of an incestuous relationship. Not something that could ever be retained if it was a PG. However, I do find the nudity somewhat gratuitous and not wholly in keeping with the novels. I have noticed is has got better since season 1 but the producers still throw in a pointless scene now and again, which I find a waste of precious production time, which is a pity.
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Old 06-04-2013, 03:28
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My only problem is there just wasn't enough in season 2 my wife wont watch she says there just too much sex.
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Old 06-04-2013, 11:55
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A couple of actresses on the show are actual hardcore porn stars, and if you do bit of a search on them you'll soon see the difference between "nudity and sex" and porn.
I was, of course, referring to soft porn which is nudity and simulated sex, just like GoT.

I have no moral objection, but clearly most of it is gratuitous to a comical level and often a bit distracting.
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Old 06-04-2013, 12:03
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My only problem is there just wasn't enough in season 2 my wife wont watch she says there just too much sex.
Poor you.
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Old 06-04-2013, 22:46
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That's why I watch it alone. It would be too awkward watching with my brother.
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Old 07-04-2013, 13:12
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That's why I watch it alone. It would be too awkward watching with my brother.
If you did your trousers back up it would be less awkward, obviously
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Old 07-04-2013, 16:02
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A couple of actresses on the show are actual hardcore porn stars, and if you do bit of a search on them you'll soon see the difference between "nudity and sex" and porn.
Actually, it's three apparently.
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Old 07-04-2013, 16:47
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Actually, it's three apparently.
The more the merrier
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Old 07-04-2013, 21:19
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If you did your trousers back up it would be less awkward, obviously
I don't get it and I'm not sure if i want to.
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Old 07-04-2013, 21:55
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I had to read it several times as it seemed very odd, but just got it now. You have to read it very slowly. It's not very well worded.

Makes an assumption you are wearing pants while watching
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Old 07-04-2013, 22:24
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I had to read it several times as it seemed very odd, but just got it now. You have to read it very slowly. It's not very well worded.

Makes an assumption you are wearing pants while watching
I am disgusted. What a sick minded person
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Old 08-04-2013, 02:01
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Hmm, after having watched Spartacus, the nudity in GoT seems very tame!
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Old 08-04-2013, 11:20
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Hmm, after having watched Spartacus, the nudity in GoT seems very tame!
I do agree that Spartacus' level of nudity is gratuitous (not that it bothers me or that it detracts from a good show). Although they were trying to convey the decadance of ancient Rome. A bit like Deadwood had to ramp up it use of swearing to convey the sense of a frontier town in 19th century America.
In some shows though the lack of nudity is conspicuously absent. The Walking Dead and Mad Men for example. Not that the show "need" it they are perfectly good shows without, it just seems strange that it's not there.
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