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Old 04-04-2013, 00:02
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Help! I have a New Polaroid 46inch HD LCD TV Outstanding picture but poor Movie sound. NOT a Technical or Gadget / Brand Junkie looking for Good (not super fantastic) 2.1 speakers that give "good" sound / power for Under 100.00 the more "Under" the better Am i asking too much ?? not got spare HDMI port as only 2 on TV! and No optical port so will connect via 3.5mm headphone jack Anyone Help?? or had to do this on a budget? An actual user recommendation would be brill
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Old 04-04-2013, 00:26
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I was going to suggest trying AV Forums, but I see you have started a thread there as well!
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Old 04-04-2013, 00:26
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Why 2.1?

A cheap second-hand amplifier (1990s Japanese amps last pretty much indefinitely) and bookshelf hi-fi speakers (British-made speakers from the same era also generally don't fail) will blow away any cheap "2.1" system (in reality just a pair of speakers with a shared woofer).

Probably get change out of 50 for the lot.
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Old 04-04-2013, 08:17
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There aren't that many 2.1 speaker systems around between 70 and 130.

The AV market has gone towards soundbars. The PC market is polarised between basic 2.1 kits up to 60'ish and then premium 2.1 kits such as the Acoustic Energy Aego at 150. In between those two price points it's mostly 5.1 speaker systems in the PC world. Those won't work so well for you as they really need to be driven from a multi-channel sound card from a PC to give their best.

There are a couple of solutions that are worth considering. This is a 2.1 PC speaker kit developed to take advantage of the hole in the market.

The other solution is powered stereo speakers. These look like Hi-Fi speakers. The crucial difference is that they include amplification built in to the back of one of the speakers. This means they are compact and self contained. Speakers such as these are seen as a step up from traditional 2.1 PC speakers. They suit people who are more interested in music quality rather than just multi-media/gaming. Have a look at these Microlabs

Hope this helps in some way
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Old 04-04-2013, 09:17
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Help! I have a New Polaroid 46inch HD LCD TV Outstanding picture but poor Movie sound. NOT a Technical or Gadget / Brand Junkie looking for Good (not super fantastic) 2.1 speakers that give "good" sound / power for Under 100.00 the more "Under" the better Am i asking too much ?? not got spare HDMI port as only 2 on TV! and No optical port so will connect via 3.5mm headphone jack Anyone Help?? or had to do this on a budget? An actual user recommendation would be brill
Have a look at PC world, they have 2.1 systems for all budgets., just double check the connections. They are basically designed for the PC, but perfect for upgrading the audio on flat TV's and those not wanting amps and a room full of speakers.

http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/search...-criteria.html

Supermarkets even do them, I bought a cheap package for the TV in the conservatory, only cost 22 from Tescos, you'd want something a touch better for the main tv, but you'd be surprised just how much better even a package this cheap can sound.
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Old 04-04-2013, 10:10
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You can check the Trust Tytan 2.1 speaker system. I have these for few months now and I can tell they sound pretty good. There is some distortion in the mids when sound quality isn't good, but the wooden bass is fantastic for the price of around 60 for the system.
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Old 04-04-2013, 12:24
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The AV market has gone towards soundbars...
Has anyone got experience with soundbars? I'm tempted to buy one for my TV - do they replicate surround sound or is it just basically 'better' sound than the normal TV?

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Old 04-04-2013, 12:34
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Has anyone got experience with soundbars? I'm tempted to buy one for my TV - do they replicate surround sound or is it just basically 'better' sound than the normal TV?

cheers...
They are a 2.1 system, so simply better sound than the TV speakers - supposed 'surround' from such systems (or TV's) is nothing like surround.
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Old 04-04-2013, 12:53
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Has anyone got experience with soundbars? I'm tempted to buy one for my TV - do they replicate surround sound or is it just basically 'better' sound than the normal TV?

cheers...
I picked up an LG soundbar for 87.00, reduced from 150 as it was in an opened box, from Richer Sounds.. LG recommends 'clear voice' when watching a film with DTS or Dolby 5.1 sound. It has two optical digital audio connections. It comes with one cable, and I ended up buying another cable. I have one cable connected to the tv, my tv lets me choose how the sound is output when i'm watching HD channels.. PCM or Dolby Digital, and another to a Samsung blu-ray player. How does it sound? With 'PCM 2.0.0' mode it's okay.. The stereo separation is good. But it is much better when a HD film is on TV on BBC, Channel 4, etc.. The soundbar will let you know if the sound is in 'DD 3.2.1'mode.. It does sound great with the blu-ray player... You really notice the sound effects.. I dont have a sub-woofer and i cant say i miss it.. A good feature is the built-in Bluetooth. I can play music from my I-pad though it..

http://www.richersounds.com/product/...20a/lg-nb2420a

Meant to add if you place the soundbar too close to your tv the magnets may affect the image.. I have a 3 tier TV stand and have placed it on the second shelf.. The LG soundbar I bought is very long and protrudes on either side.. Still looks good..
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Old 04-04-2013, 13:09
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Meant to add if you place the soundbar too close to your tv the magnets may affect the image..
Only with older CRT type TVs. New flat screens (Plasma, LCD and LED*) are not affected by magnetic fields so it's safe to put the soundbar near the screen.


*LED is really LCD with a different light source.
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Old 04-04-2013, 13:48
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Only with older CRT type TVs. New flat screens (Plasma, LCD and LED*) are not affected by magnetic fields so it's safe to put the soundbar near the screen.


*LED is really LCD with a different light source.
I noticed clouding at four points on the TV when I placed the soundbar in front of the TV on the same shelf. All four points were along the bottom.. One on each corner directly behind the speakers and a butterfly effect in the middle directly behind the amplifier.. Coincidence? The effect disappeared when I moved the soundbar on to the shelf below..
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Old 04-04-2013, 16:05
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I noticed clouding at four points on the TV when I placed the soundbar in front of the TV on the same shelf. All four points were along the bottom.. One on each corner directly behind the speakers and a butterfly effect in the middle directly behind the amplifier.. Coincidence? The effect disappeared when I moved the soundbar on to the shelf below..
Speakers don't affect LCD screens - there's no way they can.

What make and model set was it? - presumably it's an antique CRT one?.
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Old 04-04-2013, 20:16
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I noticed clouding at four points on the TV when I placed the soundbar in front of the TV on the same shelf. All four points were along the bottom.. One on each corner directly behind the speakers and a butterfly effect in the middle directly behind the amplifier.. Coincidence? The effect disappeared when I moved the soundbar on to the shelf below..
The reason magnets affect CRT displays is that the electron beam responsible for making the phosphors glow is directed by the magnetic fields generated by electro-magnetic coils. External magnetic forces mess up the targeting. The result is the electron beam misses the holes or strips in the shadow mask that it is supposed to pass through to hit the phosphors. Instead it hits the metal shadow mask itself and begins to put a charge on the metal. This creates a magnetizing effect.

So the key to this is an electon beam and a metal shadow mask. These are two things that neither an LCD/LED nor plasma screen have. LCD/LED screens rely on polarised light passing through thousands of cells of an LED substrate that acts like tiny shutters. There isn't en electron beam to deflect. Light is made of photons. These are charge-less particles. On the scale we are talking about magnets don't affect charge-less particles. [Source: NASA]

If you want to talk about Quantum Mechanics then with strong enough forces protons can be made to decay in to charged particles that could then theoretically be deflected by magnetic forces. Trouble is, the particles aren't around long enough for the effect to be measured. So it's kind of a moot point and not relevant to your TV.

As a practical test I just put a powerful magnet very close to the screen on my laptop. Result: No effect.

Here's a YouTube video of some yahoo sticking a magnet to his LCD TV screen. Notice there's no colour staining or any adverse affect until the magnet is physically touching the screen. At that point it's the physical pressure on the screen that creates distortions in the LCD substrate. You'll get the same effect with your finger on the screen...but please don't do it. It's not advised. Here's the video

If you got some effect then perhaps it's the chassis distorting. But I've yet to find a speaker with a strong enough magnet to cause that kind of issue. The other possibility is light reflection off the speaker. I'm not doubting that you saw something; just saying that magnets shouldn't be a problem for LCD and Plasma TVs as far as creating the same effect as on a CRT TV.
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Old 05-04-2013, 08:46
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The reason magnets affect CRT displays is that the electron beam responsible for making the phosphors glow is directed by the magnetic fields generated by electro-magnetic coils. External magnetic forces mess up the targeting. The result is the electron beam misses the holes or strips in the shadow mask that it is supposed to pass through to hit the phosphors. Instead it hits the metal shadow mask itself and begins to put a charge on the metal. This creates a magnetizing effect.
Sorry, but that's not correct.

The reason a magnet affects it is because the magnet simply deforms the shadow mask, leaving it 'permanently' magnetised (which is why moving the magnet away doesn't usually cure the problem.

To cure it you need to use a degaussing coil, either an external one, or the sets internal one (only active when the set is turned ON from stone cold).
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