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Old 05-04-2013, 18:07
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Am I missing something here.

I thought Bauer radio have always promoted themselves as local radio so how is this LOCAL RADIO? How is Steve and Karen local radio? If this can happen why did they move from Capital.

Do we have three or four regional stations now with Smooth, Capital, Real and Metro/TFM. So many questions but no answers.
They are in the same Ofcom approved area so the situation is the same as Capital East Midlands - all programmes can be shared but the news & info must reflect all parts of the approved area (in this case Tyneside & Teeside).

These rules have been in place since 2010 so there is no change in Ofcom policy here.

I am a little surprised at the timing of this though, as Bauer have been trying to persuade the Competition Commission that Global will be bad for Real because they will network everything to the maximum.
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Old 05-04-2013, 18:11
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They are in the same Ofcom approved area so the situation is the same as Capital East Midlands - all programmes can be shared but the news & info must reflect all parts of the approved area (in this case Tyneside & Teeside).

These rules have been in place since 2010 so there is no change in Ofcom policy here.
Yes but the poster's point is valid. Bauer have always been pretty loyal to local daytime output on their local FM stations. I think this paves the way for networking outside breakfast and drive across Bauer Place stations.
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Old 05-04-2013, 18:13
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I'm surprise they networked breakfast as I was thinking that they were going for the 10 till 2pm slot.

Btw this is the just tip of the iceberg. Don't be too surprise if start networking the Bauer stations in Yorkshire in the future.
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Old 05-04-2013, 18:16
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With the recent Magic changes and the move to a single playlist for the former Big City stations, and now this, it's clear Bauer are cutting costs and moving towards more centralisation - albeit not on a Global scale.

Will Aire, Hallam & Viking and Key & Rock be next I wonder?
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Old 05-04-2013, 18:17
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Yes but the poster's point is valid. Bauer have always been pretty loyal to local daytime output on their local FM stations. I think this paves the way for networking outside breakfast and drive across Bauer Place stations.
Yes, I would agree with that. As a company with shareholders I'm surprised it has taken them three years to look at it, because every company seeks to maximise profits within the regulatory framework.

Having several mid-morning & mid-afternoon presenters isn't going to give them a financial advantage over one of each when local news & information can be inserted by smart networking.

It's sad for the people losing their contracts but I think that's the reality of the situation.

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Btw this is the just tip of the iceberg. Don't be too surprise if start networking the Bauer stations in Yorkshire in the future.
They have to do separate breakfast + 3hrs on Aire, Hallam & Viking because they are in different local approved areas.
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Old 05-04-2013, 18:17
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TFM is a much-loved radio station on Teesside and we are confident this move means it will benefit from even greater creativity, improved content.

Well it won't as what they are doing is rebadging the Metro output as TFM. There is no TFM left, but to be honest Global did it, Free did the same with Mercia so why not. Sad day as basically that's it there is no TFM anymore just Metro North and South.
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Old 05-04-2013, 18:26
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There you go yet again, expressing an opinion that the listener is a thicko, and anyone with an interest is an "anorak"


What is wrong with promoting the fact that his station is "LOCAL" to the area , especially if a rival organisation decide they cant hack it!
You miss the point, Star Radio has ran on-air lines about Real Radio redundancies, now TFM networking, aping their station fonts and discussing anoraks on "forums" on-air. Normal listeners are not that clued up, nor do they care of have an interest in the industry in that way. Last time I tuned into Star they were discussing the playout system on-air, it's far too insular.
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Old 05-04-2013, 18:43
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You miss the point, Star Radio has ran on-air lines about Real Radio redundancies, now TFM networking, aping their station fonts and discussing anoraks on "forums" on-air. Normal listeners are not that clued up, nor do they care of have an interest in the industry in that way. Last time I tuned into Star they were discussing the playout system on-air, it's far too insular.
Agreed. Jack FM did the infamous "funeral" of Fox FM. Although you could argue that such stunts may generate some local newspaper coverage or talk on social networking sights. I concur with you that a lot of this is naval gazing by anoraks and industry folk, but Star won't care as long as it gets people talking.
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Old 05-04-2013, 18:47
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They ought to rename the merged stations Metro. TFM is effectively gone, retaining both is just to soften the blow, but with Wayne & Amy and Antony Collins dropped it's darn obvious what has happened. Expect lot's of awkward presenter links come Monday.
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Old 05-04-2013, 18:53
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Expect lot's of awkward presenter links come Monday.
Why would that be the case?

Don't you think that Bauer have been doing quite a few off air pilots ahead of this relaunch?

I expect a polished performance, especially from Steve and Karen.
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Old 05-04-2013, 19:06
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Why would that be the case?

Don't you think that Bauer have been doing quite a few off air pilots ahead of this relaunch?

I expect a polished performance, especially from Steve and Karen.
Not within that respect, I mean because it is networked they will be unable to verbally say Metro or TFM instead it would be a pre-recorded insert i.e. what is currently done with In Demand from Key 103.

Of course they will have done off air pilots, as they did before they debuted on Metro Radio just 10 months ago.

I'd expect nothing different from Steve and Karen.
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Old 05-04-2013, 19:23
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Will the TFM name continue long term or is it being kept to soften the blow? I think Bauer are now very much embracing networking. I am convinced all Bauer Place stations (at least in England) will be networked between 10am - 4pm and 7pm - 6am weekdays eventually. The only possible exception being Pete Price in Liverpool.
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Old 05-04-2013, 19:37
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I am convinced all Bauer Place stations (at least in England) will be networked between 10am - 4pm and 7pm - 6am weekdays eventually. The only possible exception being Pete Price in Liverpool.
Should the networking spread to other stations, I think Radio City may be allowed to remain more local, and keep Pete Price plus the long running weekend Dance music shows. Juice 107.6 was once a small, insignificant rival to City but has grown substantially over the past 2 or 3 years. Would Bauer want to risk handing more listeners to Juice?
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Old 05-04-2013, 20:04
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I am really shocked by this news. To kill off a historic heritage ILR station in this way seems really brutal. Cath Ellington’s comments regarding the station being better resourced now are just ridiculous.

RIP, Radio Tees/TFM.
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Old 05-04-2013, 20:20
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This is a slow march to "The Hits UK". Yorkshire next, then the North West.
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Old 05-04-2013, 20:20
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Question is.. will this happen with Clyde/Forth One/WestFM/Westsound/RadioBoarders in the next year or so? I can say that the music logs may be shared (excluding radio boarders)
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Old 05-04-2013, 20:24
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I feel bad for some of the Staff who will have been made redundant and for the TSA whom are to get there Programming from Tyneside.

Technology now lets Stations do Split Links/Ad's/Progs but it does let them actually see what is going on in the TSA!

You can't bluff this...TFM's Listeners are gonna lose good local News(Lost That A While Ago BTW!)/Traffic & Promotions!

Still...the savings will be looking good on Paper for Bauer...a great shame!
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Old 05-04-2013, 20:28
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i have a feeling eventually it will be the hits north east or something along the lines and i wonder if jocks will say this is metro and tfm or if it will be all pre recorded hmm and start your text with metro or tfm could be intresting bound to be the odd slip up
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Old 05-04-2013, 20:30
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i have a feeling eventually it will be the hits north east or something along the lines and i wonder if jocks will say this is metro and tfm or if it will be all pre recorded hmm and start your text with metro or tfm could be intresting bound to be the odd slip up
Local ID's by the Jocks on Hot Keys or similar like they do now during In Demand!
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Old 05-04-2013, 20:31
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So TFM is still alive, albeit stripped of its own internal organs, being hooked up to Metro's internal system... and it's all allowed, since 2006.

So even Bauer, one of Europe's biggest media companies are having to cut back. It started with the appointment of a group music controller, then Magic AM goes regional and now this.

I did wonder at the time of Magic being cut back if Bauer realised that 'The Only Way Is Global'. It seems they're doing their own version; and now sets a precedent for other networks like Heart and Capital to network either brekkie or drive (drive being more likely first).

Aire/Hallam has already been mentioned, but how about Scotland? West Sound has to be the front runner to 'close', all shows coming from Clyde.
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Old 05-04-2013, 20:34
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This is a slow march to "The Hits UK". Yorkshire next, then the North West.
Or even Kiss? All shows coming from London?
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Old 05-04-2013, 20:38
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i think kiss would be a little bit to urban it needs to be in-between something like what TFM metro is top10at10 etc like a northern version of kiss could work very well I think capital north east may be a little bit worried at steve and karen coming to Teesside again i wonder if they will do a big marketing campaign like they did when they went to metro to me it would be silly not too.
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Old 05-04-2013, 21:39
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Northern Echo says the last live program ended at 10am today. It says staff we're told today about the changes. Some let go there and then.

It's not uncommon but if its true its not a good way to treat people.
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Old 05-04-2013, 22:02
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How are they selling this as being a positive move rather than being a reduction of things? let's see;

"“TFM is a much-loved radio station on Teesside and we are confident this move means it will benefit from even greater creativity, improved content and allow the station to further grow its audience share across the region. We want to say thank you to all TFM staff who have worked hard for the station in recent years.”"

Well that's spin, a station loved so much it now has to move fully into Newcastle where it will benefit from the creativity already going at Metro which up until now had no connection with TFM, and the improved content will be filling another transmitter with the same stuff everyone on Teesside can already pick up from Metro's overlapping signal anyhow!

I had no idea when TFM started taking Night Owls that that also could signal that the writing was on the wall for the whole station too, given it was off peak networking, so it makes me wonder now we have seen this big crack in Bauer's "commitment" to their localised stations whether stations like Rock FM or even some in Yorkshire such as Viking could be at risk. Rock has been sharing the late show with Key and it would obviously be the weaker operation of the two, it still has things like Freejack's classics which give it its own character on that Sunday night free zone when the stations are somehow allowed to do their own thing, what if Bauer decided to take Pete Price across the whole North West from City, if it's regional anything's possible it seems and choice across the dial could go.
Although admittedly Pete Price might be quite a strong choice for a Rock FM simulcast, better not give them too many ideas.
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Old 05-04-2013, 22:31
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So they're effectively doing what Media Sound Holdings are currently doing.
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