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Old 06-04-2013, 18:06
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Stockton South MP James Wharton today called on broadcasting watchdog Ofcom to investigate.

He said: I am extremely concerned. I am not sure Ofcom realise that the North-east is such a diverse place. This decision, made in Germany, could have been rubber stamped in London with no input from people who understand the area.
http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/te...4229-33127381/

I didn't know Bauer Radio had moved their HQ to Germany. The Germans must be to blame for the Magic AM networking too.
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Old 06-04-2013, 18:19
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I realise that not everyone, including backbench MPs, can be fully conversant with all of Ofcom's rules.

However I think it would be a good idea if Mr Wharton did some research before making a complete prat of himself. What exactly are Ofcom meant to be investigating here? Bauer are fully compliant with their localness code (June 2010), as detailed on their website. Both stations are in the North East England approved area.

http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/con...dio/statement/

1.21 Within each approved area, our policy is that FM stations can request to co-locate and share all of their programming, effectively allowing them to come together to become larger, more viable stations. We will be likely to consent to such requests if we are satisfied that the stations involved will continue to meet their licence obligations to provide local material relevant to the listeners in the licensed areas. We have changed our localness guidelines and format change policy to this effect (see Annexes 1 and 2).
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Old 06-04-2013, 19:30
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I realise that not everyone, including backbench MPs, can be fully conversant with all of Ofcom's rules.

However I think it would be a good idea if Mr Wharton did some research before making a complete prat of himself. What exactly are Ofcom meant to be investigating here? Bauer are fully compliant with their localness code (June 2010), as detailed on their website. Both stations are in the North East England approved area.

http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/con...dio/statement/
I take your point. However it doesn't mean he or the population have to be happy about it.

If they cannot make enough profit out of Tfm , then the license should be readvertised and someone who can should be allowed to take it.

I understand the lease on Radio House was due for renewal. Mind most Teasdale is empty so i cannot see I would have been an issue to get a short term lease.
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Old 06-04-2013, 19:37
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I take your point. However it doesn't mean he or the population have to be happy about it.

If they cannot make enough profit out of Tfm , then the license should be readvertised and someone who can should be allowed to take it.

I understand the lease on Radio House was due for renewal. Mind most Teasdale is empty so i cannot see I would have been an issue to get a short term lease.
The licence is profitable so there was never any question of Bauer wanting to hand it back to Ofcom. They want to increase profits by acting within the scope of Ofcom's rules.

Given that they haven't broken any of Ofcom rules I would imagine that any attempt to strip them of the licence would be met with a swift response by Bauer's lawyers. On that basis I think all that will happen is that Bauer will issue a statement saying that they are committed to providing local news and information on the TFM licence.
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Old 06-04-2013, 19:50
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Hear is apparently the story, TFM has not been making Money for a while...the parent company, Bauer have seen this and did some consultation and looked at how others are doing it...like Orion & Global and there you have it!

4 Main Presenters Salary's gone along with News, PC, Tech Admin and some Sales/S&P ect.

Contracts depending Presenters will get a Month or 3 Months Pay off...Gardening leave if you will!

All dealt with very coldly by all accounts...thats the Bean Counters these days!

No soul...just cold Buisness, what comes around!
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Old 06-04-2013, 19:58
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Hear is apparently the story, TFM has not been making Money for a while...the parent company, Bauer have seen this and did some consultation and looked at how others are doing it...like Orion & Global and there you have it!
The last accounts posted on the Companies House website are for the year ended 31 December 2011, and they show that the company (TFM Radio Limited) has made a profit for that year (and profits for each of the last five years).

The balance sheet has net assets and looks very healthy, so I'm not sure where your information comes from.
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Old 06-04-2013, 22:12
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A sad decision. I could understand off peak networking (say after 7) but not complete merger.

First BRMB and Beacon disappear, now TFM effectively becomes a relay of Metro. What next?
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Old 06-04-2013, 22:39
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A sad decision. I could understand off peak networking (say after 7) but not complete merger.

First BRMB and Beacon disappear, now TFM effectively becomes a relay of Metro. What next?
No local radio. Regional stations leading to national groups.
The best days of radio has been and gone , now the groups will milk the dying days.

People will only miss it when it gone. When its gone, it gone.
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Old 06-04-2013, 22:54
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Can't see anything other than Bauer increasing on shared and networked programming. They've missed a potential trick in not networking Adam Catterall's 1pm to 4pm afternoon show that goes out on Key 103. Can see them doing so eventually and also condensing the weekday mid morning shows by having shared shows from region to region. Key 103, Radio City and Rock FM could realistically share the same show, Aire, Hallam and Viking similar, and CFM could take the Metro/TFM show. Thus nine mid morning DJ's become three. The night time shows are already heading that way, Pete Price aside. With the networked evening and overnight shows long since established, it would leave a number of Bauer's stations needing to employ just breakfast and drive presenters for genuine local output in midweek, and some weekend cover.
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Old 06-04-2013, 22:58
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Just uploaded these to You tube, John & Anna on Breakfast via NTL and loads more Radio Tees / TFM Video's
http://youtu.be/841yln4MVug
http://youtu.be/KCyfbIal2o0
http://youtu.be/o7LIfal6jbk
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Old 07-04-2013, 00:13
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Just uploaded these to You tube, John & Anna on Breakfast via NTL and loads more Radio Tees / TFM Video's
http://youtu.be/841yln4MVug
http://youtu.be/KCyfbIal2o0
http://youtu.be/o7LIfal6jbk
All those videos are on you tube already except the Breakfast show.
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Old 07-04-2013, 00:15
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For those saying listeners won't care, listeners are kicking up a stink already. 2 groups on facebook

https://www.facebook.com/groups/318726234920195/

https://www.facebook.com/groups/491479144240836/

and also reading the comments on this . . .

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theater
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Old 07-04-2013, 00:19
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Just adding my view. I was shocked and didn't believe it when I heard and I heard it from Star Radios post on Facebook celebrating the demise

I've been listening since 1986, been to roadshows, been in the studios during shows too. This is not good news to me. A part of me feels like it has gone missing. I genuinely feel sad over this

I don't know how Cath Ellington can say what she did when she started off as receptionist at Radio Tees. She basically seems to endorse the killing off of the company she progressed through!
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Old 07-04-2013, 01:34
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Just adding my view. I was shocked and didn't believe it when I heard and I heard it from Star Radios post on Facebook celebrating the demise

I've been listening since 1986, been to roadshows, been in the studios during shows too. This is not good news to me. A part of me feels like it has gone missing. I genuinely feel sad over this

I don't know how Cath Ellington can say what she did when she started off as receptionist at Radio Tees. She basically seems to endorse the killing off of the company she progressed through!
It is sad what's happened to TFM but the cold hard reality of today's radio induatry is that Bauer, and all of the other UK radio groups, are in it to make money. There is no place for sentiment in the industry these days and if Bauer reckon that they can make more money by sharing all of TFM's output with that of Metro's, then that's what they'll do.

Sadly, this is just the tip of the iceberg and I can see a lot of other Bauer Place stations going the same way as TFM has.
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Old 07-04-2013, 08:26
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I can see Rock FM being on their hit list for cost-saving but would they merge them with Key 103 or CFM? I'm not entirely confident either would work. Bauer will not wish to jeopardise the success of theManchester licensee, Key 103. If Key were to introduce more networknig then it would just be a poor man's Capital; the local-ness was the selling point. CFM on the other hand is a bit far away.

It'd be a brave man who would bring in peaktime/full programme sharing on Radio City! Scousers wouldn't take that one easily!
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Old 07-04-2013, 10:22
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Its all rather sad, I can remember listening to the then radio tees when it stated. It got out a long way. and was rather good.
This yet again points to the short slightness of the radio authority/ofcom increasing the number of stations to such a level that hardly any can be profitable. I remember people going on about how we could support lots of local stations like in the USA. This clearly was not correct.
In the case of ILR less would definitely have meant more
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Old 07-04-2013, 11:15
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Its all rather sad, I can remember listening to the then radio tees when it stated. It got out a long way. and was rather good.
This yet again points to the short slightness of the radio authority/ofcom increasing the number of stations to such a level that hardly any can be profitable. I remember people going on about how we could support lots of local stations like in the USA. This clearly was not correct.
In the case of ILR less would definitely have meant more
The Uk could support lots of stations if they were given equal playing firelds, ie transmitter power, tsa etc etc. This would lead to different formats etc etc, there are far too many tin pot small stations trying to be everything to everyman and his dog. A commercial station with a max tsa of under 100k just isnt going to work..that's for community style broadcasting.
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Old 07-04-2013, 11:30
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I'd be very suprised if TFM wasn't able to turn a profit even with the economic downturn and the fact it's on teeside. It's no suprise though that Bauer have decided to go down this route because they could make more money.

The sad fact is that the new station will sound the same and still play Rihanna and Katy Perry so most listeners won't notice and the ones that do won't care.
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Old 07-04-2013, 11:56
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I realise that not everyone, including backbench MPs, can be fully conversant with all of Ofcom's rules.

However I think it would be a good idea if Mr Wharton did some research before making a complete prat of himself. What exactly are Ofcom meant to be investigating here? Bauer are fully compliant with their localness code (June 2010), as detailed on their website. Both stations are in the North East England approved area.

http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/con...dio/statement/
I just hope James Wharton MP voted against the Digital Economy Act that lead us all here.
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Old 07-04-2013, 11:58
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You always get that, like when Galaxy became Capital, or when Real networked daytimes... after a week or two it tends to stop. Even those who say they'll retune usually don't (based on the Real Scotland Facebook, where some of the most vocal critics who vowed to stop listening are always the first to notice technical problems during the networked shows!)
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Old 07-04-2013, 12:05
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I just hope James Wharton MP voted against the Digital Economy Act that lead us all here.
I believe he joined Parliament after the Bill received ascent.
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Old 07-04-2013, 12:05
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I just hope James Wharton MP voted against the Digital Economy Act that lead us all here.
He wasn't an MP then - the DEA was voted through in the "wash-up period" at the end of the last Labour Government (April 2010).

Wharton was elected at the 2010 General Election on 6th May.
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Old 07-04-2013, 14:41
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Gotcha - thanks for the clarification. Not a local as you can probably fathom.

I have to say, this has all been a big surprise. I always assumed that Bauer would keep the stations "Local" because A) they're big stations anyway 2) They see LOCAL as their point of difference and D) they're the first to hassle the regulator about Global.

That said, it's just how it is. Most importantly, I wish all the jocks and staff a speedy return to work.
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Old 07-04-2013, 15:48
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Another sad day for radio and I think it's only going to get worse, West FM will probably be next with networking from Clyde and then Radio Borders with Forth, hopefully though if Bauer do start networking more they will keep it sort of local like 4 different networks across the UK
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Old 07-04-2013, 18:16
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From tomorrow the average listener will probably not notice much difference to Tfm apart from maybe a few new jingles, The Top 10 @ 10 will still be there , Most Wanted will still be there, and the same music played. But to someone who has a love for radio and cares for radio in their area like me and you it is a massive kick in the teeth.

When a Radio station hooks you in at an early age and after listening for 30 years through the good and not so good years, it is pretty hard to let it go, I for one am absolutely gutted at this decision. From tomorrow it will be like listening to Metro Radio with Tfm jingles and a 2 minute local news if we are lucky. We know why Bauer are doing this and money is tight for all and know it is the way radio is going these days, good luck to the staff from Tfm, it has been an absolute pleasure.

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