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TV DX receiving distant TV signals
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JonCollett
06-06-2014
Originally Posted by brumlad36:
“Hi Jon,

In Lincoln, I'm getting just getting "The channel is scrambled or not available" on the Noord Holland MUX. This means the receiver is just on the threshold of displaying pictures.

Cheers,

Chris.”

Hi Chris

Hang in there, it sounds like there is a good possibility that you'll get something in the early evening..

Jon
Winston_1
17-06-2014
Just spent a few days in Folkestone. With a 12 element yagi pointed towards France on the first day I could receive 3 or 4 transmitters, Boulogne, Dunkerque, odd channels from Bouvigny which were not co channel with others and local channel Grand Lille TV from Wattignies on ch 36. Other days things returned to normal and only Boulogne was received, all 8 MUXES perfectly. Noted the teletext has stopped on TF1, only Arte has teletext now. Why I wonder? Just checked Fransat and teletext seems to have mostly stopped there as well. Only Arte and some France 3 regions now have it. Strange that some regions have it and others don't.
JonCollett
20-06-2014
Originally Posted by Winston_1:
“Just spent a few days in Folkestone. With a 12 element yagi pointed towards France on the first day I could receive 3 or 4 transmitters, Boulogne, Dunkerque, odd channels from Bouvigny which were not co channel with others and local channel Grand Lille TV from Wattignies on ch 36. Other days things returned to normal and only Boulogne was received, all 8 MUXES perfectly. Noted the teletext has stopped on TF1, only Arte has teletext now. Why I wonder? Just checked Fransat and teletext seems to have mostly stopped there as well. Only Arte and some France 3 regions now have it. Strange that some regions have it and others don't.”

Thanks for posting. I've often wondered what you would get from there (or another location so close to the continent) when there is a really strong lift on?

I suspect that you would be inundated with other French transmitters swamping the band. I tend to get all of the Dutch Muxes, here on the Lincs east coast, across the band, in a very strong lift. This is good, but because the entire band is filled up with strong dutch signals other more marginal signals from other countries on the same channels don't tend to get much of a look in.
ACL777
03-07-2014
Pictures and sound on,E2,R1 and R2.
ACL777
03-07-2014
In order to receive transatlantic tv what spacing do I need for the A channels? Is it L?
brumlad36
03-07-2014
Originally Posted by ACL777:
“In order to receive transatlantic tv what spacing do I need for the A channels? Is it L?”

Both USA and Canada no longer use Band I, as they're now UHF digital. Best chance is from South America, I believe. Channel A2 is same as vision of E3 (55.25MHz), sound is plus 4.5MHz.
It's very rare to get this here in UK. I've never received it.

Chris.
ACL777
03-07-2014
Thanks for the info. I heard Paul Logan got double hop Puerto Rico but is based in Northern Ireland. I'm getting colour pictures from the Ukraine on R1. It's got the 1+1 logo top right and blue and yellow top left.
brumlad36
03-07-2014
Originally Posted by ACL777:
“Thanks for the info. I heard Paul Logan got double hop Puerto Rico but is based in Northern Ireland. I'm getting colour pictures from the Ukraine on R1. It's got the 1+1 logo top right and blue and yellow top left.”


Hi Alex,

Very good. I got this picture from R2 at about 4:50pm local time.

http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4c8f78e3.jpg

Chris.
ACL777
03-07-2014
Cheers Chris, am now following you on photobucket.
Hybrid tellies
03-07-2014
It's been a busy afternoon dying off by early evening. Seeing Ukrain 1+1 on R1 and R2 Ukrain YT1 on R2 and R3, Moldova on R2 and R3 and Belarus on R1. Best opening of the SpE season so far.
JonCollett
03-07-2014
I was hoping that there might be some reports of NRK on this forum today. I was getting Norway on FM but as is typically the case, I was away from home and heading in the opposite direction.

Congrats on Band 1 catches guys. Let's hope this summer will be a good one for DX.

Jon.
brumlad36
03-07-2014
Originally Posted by JonCollett:
“I was hoping that there might be some reports of NRK on this forum today. I was getting Norway on FM but as is typically the case, I was away from home and heading in the opposite direction.

Congrats on Band 1 catches guys. Let's hope this summer will be a good one for DX.

Jon.”

Hi Jon,

All Western European Band I TV stations have now gone digital and are on UHF, so reception of NRK TV on Band I is no longer possible.
There are only a handful countries in Eastern Europe and Russia that are receivable via Sporadic E, still transmitting on VHF Band I analogue.

Cheers,

Chris.
JonCollett
06-07-2014
Originally Posted by brumlad36:
“Hi Jon,

All Western European Band I TV stations have now gone digital and are on UHF, so reception of NRK TV on Band I is no longer possible.
There are only a handful countries in Eastern Europe and Russia that are receivable via Sporadic E, still transmitting on VHF Band I analogue.

Cheers,

Chris.”

Hi Chris

I didn't explain very well, sorry. I meant at UHF but if the MUF was only about 94.0 I was also being somewhat optimistic.
brumlad36
06-07-2014
Originally Posted by JonCollett:
“Hi Chris

I didn't explain very well, sorry. I meant at UHF but if the MUF was only about 94.0 I was also being somewhat optimistic.”

Hi Jon,

UHF is only affected by "Tropo/Lift" enhancement and is not affected by Sporadic E.
Sporadic E very occasionally extends up to Band III, but no higher.

Cheers,

Chris.
ACL777
07-07-2014
Given your location Jon I would have thought Norwegian reception via tropo was a good possibility. I remember you saying last summer your aerial was vertical hence great Dutch reception. My aerial by default (I live in a block of flats) is horizontal and I picked up 4 German muxes last year when you got one but you have a much better location. Why don't you put up a horizontal, I'm guessing Germany and Denmark would be more regular visitors plus the possibility of Sweden and Norway. Sorry if I've got my facts wrong but I'm certain you said you only had a vertical aerial.
JonCollett
07-07-2014
Originally Posted by ACL777:
“Given your location Jon I would have thought Norwegian reception via tropo was a good possibility. I remember you saying last summer your aerial was vertical hence great Dutch reception. My aerial by default (I live in a block of flats) is horizontal and I picked up 4 German muxes last year when you got one but you have a much better location. Why don't you put up a horizontal, I'm guessing Germany and Denmark would be more regular visitors plus the possibility of Sweden and Norway. Sorry if I've got my facts wrong but I'm certain you said you only had a vertical aerial.”

Hi,

You didn't get your facts wrong. I might have a play this summer with a horizontal aerial pointed out to sea, will rig it up temporarily when we get a lift on, and see what I get. I have had Denmark (DR2) on analogue before, so I guess digital is a possibility.

Regards

Jon
ACL777
08-07-2014
Weak pictures on R1.
Hybrid tellies
09-07-2014
Originally Posted by ACL777:
“Weak pictures on R1.”

They got stronger a couple of hours later with 1+1 from Ukraine blading in with programmes and adverts. Lasted about an hour.
ACL777
09-07-2014
Do you ever get viewable pictures and sound for a few minutes. I get a few seconds at best so IDing is quite hard.
JonCollett
18-07-2014
Good morning

The Dutch MUXes were very active yesterday. I am expecting them to be active today too. The Nord Holland, Uutrech, West, Fryslan and for the first time for me in ages the Noord MUX (CH 46) was also received (this has a different regional TV output from Noord Holland despite the very similar names). The rest of the spectrum was full of the encrypted Dutch MUXes.

The Ch39 MUX (Noord Holland) is currently active this morning.

Happy DX everyone
Hybrid tellies
18-07-2014
A weak R1 picture on band 1 this morning, very difficult to make our but had 0 offset and could just see logo top right corner so either Moldova or Belarus.
xdp73
20-07-2014
Having moved to Cringleford in south west Norwich from Lowestoft, 34 miles further inland, I am expecting DX-ing here to be much more difficult than on the coast. Over the past year or so I have received DAB signals from Denmark, The Netherlands and Germany. As yet nothing on DVB-T whereas in Lowestoft the slightest lift would bring the signals in easily. I have a vertical UHF aerial pointing east in the hope of getting something! I have a band 1 receiver so will keep an eye here to see when openings occur and report any sightings. Is there any amateur TV activity in Norwich? Good DX-ing Michael G0FDT.
brumlad36
20-07-2014
Originally Posted by xdp73:
“Having moved to Cringleford in south west Norwich from Lowestoft, 34 miles further inland, I am expecting DX-ing here to be much more difficult than on the coast. Over the past year or so I have received DAB signals from Denmark, The Netherlands and Germany. As yet nothing on DVB-T whereas in Lowestoft the slightest lift would bring the signals in easily. I have a vertical UHF aerial pointing east in the hope of getting something! I have a band 1 receiver so will keep an eye here to see when openings occur and report any sightings. Is there any amateur TV activity in Norwich? Good DX-ing Michael G0FDT.”

Hi Michael,

I'm sure you will receive some DVB-T DX at your new location.

Here, in Lincoln, UK, I have an external, vertically polarised, high gain UHF antenna, Blake DMX10B ( http://www.blake-uk.com/dmx-high-gai...aerial_group-b ), directed to The Netherlands/Belgium & Germany. This antenna also works well on the lower channels, and was sold to me as a Group K. I have received DVB-T from the above countries over the past few years (on occasions).
A friend of mine who lives at Sutton On Sea (Lincolnshire east coast), receives the Dutch MUXs far more frequently than I do, so living on the coast, he definitely has an advantage.

At this location, I have also received Danish (8B) and German (5C) DAB/DAB+ signals, (even with a loft antenna pointing north-west). Of course, this was during Tropo conditions. I seem to remember the Danish & German DAB/DAB+ being received in November 2013.

73,

Chris (2E0NDT)
xdp73
20-07-2014
Thanks, Chris.... will keep monitoring and report any findings... fingers crossed. I have a 2m rig but haven't set that up yet. 73's
ACL777
20-07-2014
Hi xdp73 I will be very interested to know what foreign repeaters you can receive on 2ms from your location.

Dxing DVB-T in Norwich isn't great. My aerial is horizontal and over 3 years I have received Belgium once on ch 40 and last June 4 German muxes. I am more interested in 2ms and band 2.
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