This is the POLITICS thread ....

Confusing innit! Three LBC threads to keep up with! I'm limiting myself to posting on two, so as not to spread my pearls of wisdom to thinly! I wonder if politics is allowed on the new one!

Only if you lean in a certain direction ....

The OP was moved over by moderators.

Fair enough. I didn't know that.

I think the Corbyn - bashing has peaked.

This initial comment about Mr Corbyn being a danger to the security of the country is not really working I believe - it does not seem to have been picked up by the usual tabloid suspects.

There is an interesting article by Martin Wolf in the Financial Times today , about Mr Corbyn's tax plans , headlined 'There is merit in Corbyn's tax plans'.

This article, and others I have seen in the business sections of the press, seem to show that the Conservatives will have to revise their central line of attack.

Totally predictable. NA always takes the maverick view regardless. While yourself and a few others have often emphasised how brilliant NA is, to me he always comes across as shallow, grossly ignorant and very repetitive and predictable. What is entertaining or refreshing about that combination, I've yet to find out.

To be fair to Tom, I think his post was moved from the Chit Chat thread along with others.

Edit: Oops, I didn't realise that someone else had already made this point

For me at least, Nick Abbott remains the sole reason I'd want to listen to LBC at the moment. This quote from Spongebob Squarepants is most appropriate

Spongebob: What do you normally do when I'm gone?
Patrick: Wait till your return

https://youtu.be/SDFAwbH6Qls

That said I'll probably get banned for being OT now...

I don't think they'll have to bother. Just sit back and let his fellow Opposition members do the job for them. Trident will see him off, without a single bang being heard!

That is certainly the line we are fed : the parliamentary Labour party at war with its radical leader , chaos and distrust all round, Labour evidently no longer regarding winning election as a priority and heading towards extinction, the whole downward spiral being spiced up by regular quotes from erstwhile Cabinet grandees.

There might be another view though: perhaps Mr Corbyn and his MPs know that they need each other. Perhaps the MPs realise that Mr Corbyn is the one figure that could bring back disaffected voters that long ago deserted Labour over Iraq. Or over its austerity - lite mantra of recent times. Or its seeming reluctance to take on powerful vested interests anymore.

With Mr Corbyn in charge there is no doubting that Labour stands for change, symbolically at the very least. I personally think that the symbiotic relationship between Labour MPs and their leader will be perceived as one of checks and balances, allowing people with differing views to work together again, and that this will turn out to work quite well electorally.

I have no time at all for what we are told is Mr Corbyn's scepticism over Europe, but I do think Labour is the better for him having won the leadership contest, because none of that alleged scepticism will be realised and yet it is a aafe bet that many voters will return to Labour. Win-win.

Many reasons to elect Corbyn but Alan Sugar emigrating to China is in the Top 10.

Especially after the comments he made today.

[quote=tahiti;79864700]That is certainly the line we are fed : the parliamentary Labour party at war with its radical leader , chaos and distrust all round, Labour evidently no longer regarding winning election as a priority and heading towards extinction, the whole downward spiral being spiced up by regular quotes from erstwhile Cabinet grandees.

There might be another view though: perhaps Mr Corbyn and his MPs know that they need each other. Perhaps the MPs realise that Mr Corbyn is the one figure that could bring back disaffected voters that long ago deserted Labour over Iraq. Or over its austerity - lite mantra of recent times. Or its seeming reluctance to take on powerful vested interests anymore.

With Mr Corbyn in charge there is no doubting that Labour stands for change, symbolically at the very least. I personally think that the symbiotic relationship between Labour MPs and their leader will be perceived as one of checks and balances, allowing people with differing views to work together again, and that this will turn out to work quite well electorally.

I have no time at all for what we are told is Mr Corbyn's scepticism over Europe, but I do think Labour is the better for him having won the leadership contest, because none of that alleged scepticism will be realised and yet it is a aafe bet that many voters will return to Labour. Win-win

Bottom line - The Labour Party need to find an extra 2 million votes from last election & I just can't see Corbyn getting them .

Well we'll just have to agree to disagree then - i think given the scale of the anger over Iraq, tuition fees, tax credit 'reforms', and the fact that the poor are disproportionately affected by austerity measures, it is possible to keep the existing Labour voters on board and gain the extra ones needed.

I think you're delusional ! All the evidence from elections since the 2nd world war tells me the public in the uk are more in the centre & if anything centre right .

There hasn't been a Left Wing Labour Party since the early 80s so, you don't know what people will make of him.

Out of interest which was the last left wing Labour Party?

For me its in the top 1.

And he can take Claude Littner and Karren Brady with him.

Thats an interesting one the public tell us they do not want identikit politicians IE they all head for the centre ground and they are all saying the same thing.

Then they elect the very same people.

It must have been difficult for the Conservatives not to think that electoral victory in 1945 was certain, with Winston Churchill as leader. Yet look what happened.

If you believe that the Conservatives are now forever invincible , it is you who is misreading history.

Harold Wilson was considered a moderate when he first got in after Alec Douglas-Home.
As an example he (Wilson) never did reverse the Beeching cuts as promised.

What has Iraq got to do with the to conservatives ? If tuition fees didn't make much difference at this election I doubt it will have much impact at the next .
To be fair if George Osborne is the PM at the next election I would think Corbyn would have a chance as I can't see him as popular with the public , but if it's any of the other front runners I can't see him beating them .

Harold Wilson would not be a fan of Corbyn as he thought Tony Benn became to left wing in the end .

Neil Kinnock Labour Party in the 80s before he moved it into the centre- left in the early 90s.