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Old 02-12-2015, 21:34
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Perhaps it's just me but I think Theo Usherwood's been a very poor addition to the LBC reporting team. His analysis is invariably shallow and cheap and I feel takes every opportunity to paint Corbyn or Labour in a bad light (that's easy to do, but I sense with Usherwood that there's an agenda in his reporting). Perhaps it is partly his youth, but for me he just lacks the necessary gravitas for a Political editor role.
He is a tw*t.
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Old 02-12-2015, 21:38
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Really? It wasn't implemented was it? As for thatcher, no she won on the bribes. From what I've heard she had a toried time as opposition leader for 4 or 5 years before.

Tories have messed up too, but the difference with them is that because they offer so many irresponsible bribes to the public they keep on getting voted back in and then they come through the other side of those messes, where Lab lose power because they don't bribe to the same extent.

Tories having the biggest selling papers on their side as well as most media commentators also helps them a lot in getting elected.
It's amazing how so many life long labour voters change their tune the minute they get some property under their belts.

That's not a critisism but a statement of fact.
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Old 02-12-2015, 21:53
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Absolutely magnificent speech by Hilary Benn. One of the best speeches I've ever seen in parliament
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Old 02-12-2015, 22:00
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Absolutely magnificent speech by Hilary Benn. One of the best speeches I've ever seen in parliament
His father will be turning in his grave.
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Old 02-12-2015, 22:08
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Absolutely magnificent speech by Hilary Benn. One of the best speeches I've ever seen in parliament
Spine tingling stuff. I've watched several hours of the debate, on and off, and there were several stand-out speeches but Benn's was very fine.
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Old 02-12-2015, 22:19
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Theo Usherwood. Dear, oh dear, oh dear.
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Old 02-12-2015, 22:22
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Theo Usherwood. Dear, oh dear, oh dear.
He is a tw*t.

Sorry for the repetition
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Old 02-12-2015, 22:39
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Theo Usherwood. Dear, oh dear, oh dear.
Tom Swarbrick would do a better job.
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Old 02-12-2015, 22:41
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Tom Swarbrick would do a better job.
I was thinking exactly the same.
Tom Swarbrick just reports, which is what a reporter should do.
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Old 02-12-2015, 22:43
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Absolutely magnificent speech by Hilary Benn. One of the best speeches I've ever seen in parliament
I disagree with it but, it was a very good speech. There were some great speech's today, from both sides of the debate.
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Old 02-12-2015, 22:49
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I disagree with it but, it was a very good speech. There were some great speech's today, from both sides of the debate.
The style was good (and obviously well-rehearsed), but the substance was bankrupt. It was bombastic, empty rhetoric.
This is bound to happen, with so many Blairite New Labour MPs still in place. It will be interesting to see how the party resolves this issue in the future.
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Old 02-12-2015, 22:59
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Well our masters have voted to drop more bombs tonight with the assurance that this will make us all safer. Personally I don't feel any safer than I did last night
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Old 02-12-2015, 23:03
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Tonight is a very sad night!
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Old 02-12-2015, 23:04
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The style was good (and obviously well-rehearsed), but the substance was bankrupt. It was bombastic, empty rhetoric.
This is bound to happen, with so many Blairite New Labour MPs still in place. It will be interesting to see how the party resolves this issue in the future.
No doubt more fighting and MPs making nasty little digs at Corbyn!
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Old 02-12-2015, 23:18
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No doubt more fighting and MPs making nasty little digs at Corbyn!
The media (including LBC) have blown this out of all proportion, because our contribution to airstrikes on Syria will be minimal. The ulterior motive is to champion and reinforce the potential break-up of the only viable opposition to the establishment - the Labour Party. The silly schoolboy Theo Usherwood is pushing this issue to the extreme.
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Old 02-12-2015, 23:21
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The media (including LBC) have blown this out of all proportion, because our contribution to airstrikes on Syria will be minimal. The ulterior motive is to champion and reinforce the potential break-up of the only viable opposition to the establishment - the Labour Party. The silly schoolboy Theo Usherwood is pushing this issue to the extreme.
Maybe he wants a job at The Sun?
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Old 02-12-2015, 23:54
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I can't listen to Theo Usherwood and Ian Collins anymore! I'm Off!
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Old 03-12-2015, 00:22
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The media (including LBC) have blown this out of all proportion, because our contribution to airstrikes on Syria will be minimal. The ulterior motive is to champion and reinforce the potential break-up of the only viable opposition to the establishment - the Labour Party. The silly schoolboy Theo Usherwood is pushing this issue to the extreme.
There'd be nothing to reinforce or champion if the vast majority of the PLP didn't want him as leader. Nothing to reinforce or champion If numerous senior former cabinet members hadn't spoken and voted against him today. The Shadow Foreign secretary stood up and made a devastating speech disagreeing with everything his leader who was sat behind him had said from that same despatch box a few hours earlier. Unprecedented.
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Old 03-12-2015, 01:52
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I'm guessing Hilary Benn will be the next Labour leader, maybe within the next few months. I think Corbyn tried hard, but if he hasn't got the support of the PLP then he's pretty well crippled politically. I believe the Labour party vote was intended more as a ruse to cripple JC quickly rather than genuine appetite for a bombing campaign in Syria, which will have bad consequences 2 years along. Even Harriet Harman voted for the bombing which says a lot. This is once again going to cost us a huge amount of money, thousands of civilian lives and achieve little in stopping ISIS...not to mention exacerbate the refugee crisis.
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Old 04-12-2015, 17:12
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Diane James keeps trying to make out this is a good result!
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Old 04-12-2015, 18:15
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Diane James keeps trying to make out this is a good result!
UKIP vote was up, it keeps Corbyn in his job, making Labour unelectable, it raised the real issues about how the postal voting system is being manipulated in an undemocratic manner, and the other parties didn't even get a sniff.
What's not to like?
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Old 04-12-2015, 18:41
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UKIP vote was up, it keeps Corbyn in his job, making Labour unelectable, it raised the real issues about how the postal voting system is being manipulated in an undemocratic manner, and the other parties didn't even get a sniff.
What's not to like?
Which, of course, UKIP would have pointed out if they'd won and would have demanded a re-election immediately.
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Old 04-12-2015, 19:23
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UKIP vote was up, it keeps Corbyn in his job, making Labour unelectable, it raised the real issues about how the postal voting system is being manipulated in an undemocratic manner, and the other parties didn't even get a sniff.
What's not to like?
If UKIP cannot get close in an election when everything was in their favour with the much reported disarray in the Labour party they may as well give up on domestic politics and concentrate on being a single issue protest party. One ex Tory MP and control of zero local councils is fairly dismal.
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Old 04-12-2015, 20:26
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If UKIP cannot get close in an election when everything was in their favour with the much reported disarray in the Labour party they may as well give up on domestic politics and concentrate on being a single issue protest party. One ex Tory MP and control of zero local councils is fairly dismal.
JOB made a very good point about UKIP getting less votes than Nick Griffin did in 2001!
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Old 04-12-2015, 20:57
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If UKIP cannot get close in an election when everything was in their favour with the much reported disarray in the Labour party they may as well give up on domestic politics and concentrate on being a single issue protest party. One ex Tory MP and control of zero local councils is fairly dismal.
Everything in their favour ?

Have you not seen the demographic there ?
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