Stopped reading at lefty wefty.
LBC 97.3 Politics Thread
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Originally Posted by Oscar_:
“Because when statist lefty-wefty bureaucrats and their cronies butcher a nation, many of the victims feel that their only option is to cling on to those institutions which have butchered them. When you add these victims to the numbers that make up the bureaucratic and crony classes in the society (plus those psychotics who think they should be lefty-wefty because it makes them "big-hearted people") you can end up with what looks like a majority of support for a self-destructive system.”
“Because when statist lefty-wefty bureaucrats and their cronies butcher a nation, many of the victims feel that their only option is to cling on to those institutions which have butchered them. When you add these victims to the numbers that make up the bureaucratic and crony classes in the society (plus those psychotics who think they should be lefty-wefty because it makes them "big-hearted people") you can end up with what looks like a majority of support for a self-destructive system.”
But you do not explain why even the sternest critics of the EU , like Mr Tsipras or Varoufakis on the left in Greece, or Oban on the right in Hungary, were urging Britain to vote Remain.
You would think that, in their position of power, they would have every incentive of turning their country into a private fiefdom.
Originally Posted by tahiti:
“But you do not explain why even the sternest critics of the EU , like Mr Tsipras or Varoufakis on the left in Greece, or Oban on the right in Hungary, were urging Britain to vote Remain.
You would think that, in their position of power, they would have every incentive of turning their country into a private fiefdom.”
“But you do not explain why even the sternest critics of the EU , like Mr Tsipras or Varoufakis on the left in Greece, or Oban on the right in Hungary, were urging Britain to vote Remain.
You would think that, in their position of power, they would have every incentive of turning their country into a private fiefdom.”
The individuals you name are not familiar to me so it is difficult to comment about them. In general terms the international political and business figures that were urging Britain to remain were people who are embedded in the system of the bureaucratic and crony classes that derive their power and wealth from the institutional systems like the EU (or they have ambitions of doing so in the future). It is their domain in the same way as sewer-rats would want to maintain or even expand sewers because sewers are their domain.
If you are talking about people who appear to be calling for something which would not be to their benefit, the answer is the other thing which I mentioned. When you traumatise people to a sufficient extent you produce a kind of "Stockholm Syndrome" psychosis in which people support or even almost worship those who inflict abuse on them. Also bear in mind that the creation of dependents is always a part of the strategy of spawning allies of the bureaucrats and cronies.
Originally Posted by Oscar_:
“The individuals you name are not familiar to me so it is difficult to comment about them. In general terms the international political and business figures that were urging Britain to remain were people who are embedded in the system of the bureaucratic and crony classes that derive their power and wealth from the institutional systems like the EU (or they have ambitions of doing so in the future). It is their domain in the same way as sewer-rats would want to maintain or even expand sewers because sewers are their domain.
If you are talking about people who appear to be calling for something which would not be to their benefit, the answer is the other thing which I mentioned. When you traumatise people to a sufficient extent you produce a kind of "Stockholm Syndrome" psychosis in which people support or even almost worship those who inflict abuse on them. Also bear in mind that the creation of dependents is always a part of the strategy of spawning allies of the bureaucrats and cronies.”
“The individuals you name are not familiar to me so it is difficult to comment about them. In general terms the international political and business figures that were urging Britain to remain were people who are embedded in the system of the bureaucratic and crony classes that derive their power and wealth from the institutional systems like the EU (or they have ambitions of doing so in the future). It is their domain in the same way as sewer-rats would want to maintain or even expand sewers because sewers are their domain.
If you are talking about people who appear to be calling for something which would not be to their benefit, the answer is the other thing which I mentioned. When you traumatise people to a sufficient extent you produce a kind of "Stockholm Syndrome" psychosis in which people support or even almost worship those who inflict abuse on them. Also bear in mind that the creation of dependents is always a part of the strategy of spawning allies of the bureaucrats and cronies.”
Where do you get these ideas from, Oscar? Could you be fairly specific, please?
Originally Posted by Charlie Drake:
“Where do you get these ideas from, Oscar? Could you be fairly specific, please?”
“Where do you get these ideas from, Oscar? Could you be fairly specific, please?”
So, Charlie, your response to reading my post(s), rather than addressing the topics and the subject matter therein, is to request specific details of where I got the ideas from? Can you explain why that is, please?
Originally Posted by Oscar_:
“So, Charlie, your response to reading my post(s), rather than addressing the topics and the subject matter therein, is to request specific details of where I got the ideas from? Can you explain why that is, please?”
“So, Charlie, your response to reading my post(s), rather than addressing the topics and the subject matter therein, is to request specific details of where I got the ideas from? Can you explain why that is, please?”
Simply because I'd like to know. I address topics all the time, and introduce quite a few as well. If you don't wish to respond, that's up to you (obviously) but I would like to be able to put your comments in context, as I genuinely find it very difficult, if not impossible, to understand what you are saying. This is an absolutely genuine request, with no attempt whatsoever at a wind up.
Originally Posted by Charlie Drake:
“no attempt whatsoever at a wind up.”
“no attempt whatsoever at a wind up.”
Hmm, I'm not so sure about that. Something smells a little fishy here to me. I reckon you were hoping that I would say that I got the ideas from my recent attendance at a Katie Hopkins seminar or something, and then you would be able to say "Aha, Gotcha".
Originally Posted by Oscar_:
“Hmm, I'm not so sure about that. Something smells a little fishy here to me. I reckon you were hoping that I would say that I got the ideas from my recent attendance at a Katie Hopkins seminar or something, and then you would be able to say "Aha, Gotcha".”
“Hmm, I'm not so sure about that. Something smells a little fishy here to me. I reckon you were hoping that I would say that I got the ideas from my recent attendance at a Katie Hopkins seminar or something, and then you would be able to say "Aha, Gotcha".”
Nope. Definitely not a windup. The only things I'm hoping for are context and clarification.
Originally Posted by Charlie Drake:
“Nope. Definitely not a windup. The only things I'm hoping for are context and clarification.”
“Nope. Definitely not a windup. The only things I'm hoping for are context and clarification.”
Well, the reason why I questioned your response was because it struck me as a little peculiar. This is because there is no specific source of my ideas that I can pinpoint for you in the way you seemed to want me to. My ideas and views are the result of my lifetime of astute observation and intellectual analysis of the world around me. I gather information from a wide variety of sources all the time. We value education and rightly so, but life itself is a constant education if you take the right approach to it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_H8T8XSk78M
Laugh or shudder?
Laugh or shudder?
No agenda there then! If she'd been a barrister in court the judge would have thrown her out for asking nothing but leading questions.
Originally Posted by gurney-slade:
“No agenda there then! If she'd been a barrister in court the judge would have thrown her out for asking nothing but leading questions.”
“No agenda there then! If she'd been a barrister in court the judge would have thrown her out for asking nothing but leading questions.”
Lady with crutches. We fought, we voted, we got in.
No question can be blamed for that jaw breaking stupidity.
Originally Posted by BanglaRoad:
“Lady with crutches. We fought, we voted, we got in.
No question can be blamed for that jaw breaking stupidity.”
“Lady with crutches. We fought, we voted, we got in.
No question can be blamed for that jaw breaking stupidity.”
I wonder how much footage ended up not being used because the interviewees gave reasoned, rational answers. The website has an agenda; the staff all seem to be ex-Guardian and RT. Fair enough but don't expect an unbiased view. Ditto Breibart at the other end of the political spectrum.
Originally Posted by gurney-slade:
“I wonder how much footage ended up not being used because the interviewees gave reasoned, rational answers. The website has an agenda; the staff all seem to be ex-Guardian and RT. Fair enough but don't expect an unbiased view. Ditto Breibart at the other end of the political spectrum.”
“I wonder how much footage ended up not being used because the interviewees gave reasoned, rational answers. The website has an agenda; the staff all seem to be ex-Guardian and RT. Fair enough but don't expect an unbiased view. Ditto Breibart at the other end of the political spectrum.”
I bet there were no reasonable rational answers
Originally Posted by gurney-slade:
“I wonder how much footage ended up not being used because the interviewees gave reasoned, rational answers. The website has an agenda; the staff all seem to be ex-Guardian and RT. Fair enough but don't expect an unbiased view. Ditto Breibart at the other end of the political spectrum.”
“I wonder how much footage ended up not being used because the interviewees gave reasoned, rational answers. The website has an agenda; the staff all seem to be ex-Guardian and RT. Fair enough but don't expect an unbiased view. Ditto Breibart at the other end of the political spectrum.”
Nothing on there that hasn't been expressed by some callers to lbc.
Originally Posted by gurney-slade:
“I wonder how much footage ended up not being used because the interviewees gave reasoned, rational answers. The website has an agenda; the staff all seem to be ex-Guardian and RT. Fair enough but don't expect an unbiased view. Ditto Breibart at the other end of the political spectrum.”
“I wonder how much footage ended up not being used because the interviewees gave reasoned, rational answers. The website has an agenda; the staff all seem to be ex-Guardian and RT. Fair enough but don't expect an unbiased view. Ditto Breibart at the other end of the political spectrum.”
It will be edited to promote whatever angle they want to promote.
Just after the referendum Channel 4 news did a piece, stopping people in the street and the one they showed was a bloke saying 'it's to keep the muslims out' . No doubt they ignored however many reasoned, responsible voters they spoke to ... they don't fuel any political fires.
Originally Posted by BanglaRoad:
“Nothing on there that hasn't been expressed by some callers to lbc.”
“Nothing on there that hasn't been expressed by some callers to lbc.”
Of course.
But the point in these video's is pointless because they are never totally dispassionate.
Brexit will have one showing everyone saying we're being invaded by Turks and the NHS is full of foreigners using all our services ... Infact they had that advert of an A&E before and after Brexit. Absolute nonsense.
Originally Posted by BanglaRoad:
“Nothing on there that hasn't been expressed by some callers to lbc.”
“Nothing on there that hasn't been expressed by some callers to lbc.”
True but you hear alternative points of view on LBC as well.
Originally Posted by snowy ghost:
“I bet there were no reasonable rational answers”
“I bet there were no reasonable rational answers”
That's what you're meant to believe. Job done!
All helps to paint a picture of what is going on post Brexit.
A 42% rise of reported hate crime over the two week period since 24th June from the same period a year ago. Higher still in the London area.
BTW did anyone see N Ferrari make a pillock of himself on The Pledge this week? Trying to tell James Khan the former dragon who runs several recruitment businesses that he was wrong in saying that many companies were holding back on recruitment?
Who knows why Ferrari thinks he is better qualified to tell a guy who owns recruitment firms that he is wrong.
Brexit is going to cost us all a lot and in different ways for years to come
A 42% rise of reported hate crime over the two week period since 24th June from the same period a year ago. Higher still in the London area.
BTW did anyone see N Ferrari make a pillock of himself on The Pledge this week? Trying to tell James Khan the former dragon who runs several recruitment businesses that he was wrong in saying that many companies were holding back on recruitment?
Who knows why Ferrari thinks he is better qualified to tell a guy who owns recruitment firms that he is wrong.
Brexit is going to cost us all a lot and in different ways for years to come
Excuse my mentioning Breitbart but if you don't find this hilarious, you have no sense of humour. 
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016...-heal-comfort/
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016...-heal-comfort/
Originally Posted by gurney-slade:
“Excuse my mentioning Breitbart but if you don't find this hilarious, you have no sense of humour.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016...-heal-comfort/”
“Excuse my mentioning Breitbart but if you don't find this hilarious, you have no sense of humour.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016...-heal-comfort/”
Hahaha
There are some things which are indefensible and that's one of them!
Only in England but that should be to England's credit, two opposing picnics.
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