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Styker
30-07-2016
Originally Posted by david1956:
“Iain Dale this afternoon has been an utter disgrace. During the first hour he said that to discuss the policy points that Owen Smith had made would "take all day" but then he devoted a whole hour to some stupid comment that SMith had made even though he, (Dale) admitted that he didn't understand it. Then he prattles on about the media not focusing on the real issues. Not London's Bullshit Company's finest hour.”

IMO he was even worse in Fridays 29th July show in the first half hour of 4-4.30 and then he kept on putting down the first 3 callers after that too!
Styker
30-07-2016
Maajid Nawaz in for Bevery Turner tonight and he so irks me when he "challenges" people who say that when terrorists commit acts and claim to be muslim to that its nothing to do with islam. He always clings onto the point that its got something to do with islam because the gits are claiming to be muslim where the obvious point he misses or chooses to miss is that islam does not allow/permit such things to be done and that is what people mean by its nothing to do with islam.

Suicide is a SIN in islam Maajid! As is killing innocent people a sin too, and it seems muslims can only resort to violence in self defence. All 3 things are are proof enough that its nothing to do with islam but oh no, he has to "split hairs". Maybe because he seems to make a living out of doing so?
soma_
30-07-2016
Originally Posted by Styker:
“Maajid Nawaz in for Bevery Turner tonight and he so irks me when he "challenges" people who say that when terrorists commit acts and claim to be muslim to that its nothing to do with islam. He always clings onto the point that its got something to do with islam because the gits are claiming to be muslim where the obvious point he misses or chooses to miss is that islam does not allow/permit such things to be done and that is what people mean by its nothing to do with islam.

Suicide is a SIN in islam Maajid! As is killing innocent people a sin too, and it seems muslims can only resort to violence in self defence. All 3 things are are proof enough that its nothing to do with islam but oh no, he has to "split hairs". Maybe because he seems to make a living out of doing so?”

its his job to be a native informant. its what his sponsors ask of him. what i find more than worrying is that he talks about freespeech and asks people to challenge him. when they do on social media he blocks them and his cultist troll fight the war for him.

i cant see it any differently on the radio. ive never seen/heard him allow himself to be challenged without a means of being able to deny his opponent their say. lbc do control who gets through and he controls who he cuts off.

today he claimed foreign policy had no role, yet chilcot , uk intel , academics inform us that its about foreign policy. in fact religion has a minor role if any at all.

whilst maajid willingly propagates the idea that the terrorist act is due to islam because the terrorists might claim it, he wholly ignores the fact that these same said terrorists without fail blame western foreign policy.

maajid himself says he isnt religious, doesnt pray, does not believe in parts of the quran. he says that he's a cultural muslim. what he does do though is propagate isis ideology without the necessary beliefs and understanding of ordinary muslims being stated. you can see why hes a government - neocon favourite.
Styker
31-07-2016
Originally Posted by soma_:
“its his job to be a native informant. its what his sponsors ask of him. what i find more than worrying is that he talks about freespeech and asks people to challenge him. when they do on social media he blocks them and his cultist troll fight the war for him.

i cant see it any differently on the radio. ive never seen/heard him allow himself to be challenged without a means of being able to deny his opponent their say. lbc do control who gets through and he controls who he cuts off.

today he claimed foreign policy had no role, yet chilcot , uk intel , academics inform us that its about foreign policy. in fact religion has a minor role if any at all.

whilst maajid willingly propagates the idea that the terrorist act is due to islam because the terrorists might claim it, he wholly ignores the fact that these same said terrorists without fail blame western foreign policy.

maajid himself says he isnt religious, doesnt pray, does not believe in parts of the quran. he says that he's a cultural muslim. what he does do though is propagate isis ideology without the necessary beliefs and understanding of ordinary muslims being stated. you can see why hes a government - neocon favourite
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The fact that he went from a normal person to an extremist who was locked up in Egypt for some time and now has the view in bold says a lot about him and why I think he shouldn't be given the credence he is given by the media. I think there is nothing wrong in asking questions though about things that may not sound right, because religion does warn of false prophets and does advocate asking questions but if he's trying to turn his back on what is generally accepted then I think he is saying what his paymasters want to hear and for that reason I wouldn't give him much credence at all.
MARTYM8
31-07-2016
Originally Posted by Styker:
“Maajid Nawaz in for Bevery Turner tonight and he so irks me when he "challenges" people who say that when terrorists commit acts and claim to be muslim to that its nothing to do with islam. He always clings onto the point that its got something to do with islam because the gits are claiming to be muslim where the obvious point he misses or chooses to miss is that islam does not allow/permit such things to be done and that is what people mean by its nothing to do with islam.

Suicide is a SIN in islam Maajid! As is killing innocent people a sin too, and it seems muslims can only resort to violence in self defence. All 3 things are are proof enough that its nothing to do with islam but oh no, he has to "split hairs". Maybe because he seems to make a living out of doing so?”

Islam is not like the Catholic Church where central direction comes from the Vatican. It is a devolved religion where people make their own interpretations of what the Koran means.

Both The Bible and the Koran can be used to justify acts of murder and violence . So to say you cannot use extracts from the Quran to justify these actions is not correct. As for Islam it's a matter of personal interpretation - the vast majority ignore these words but they are there.

So he is perfectly correct to point this out.
Styker
31-07-2016
Originally Posted by MARTYM8:
“Islam is not like the Catholic Church where central direction comes from the Vatican. It is a devolved religion where people make their own interpretations of what the Koran means.

Both The Bible and the Koran can be used to justify acts of murder and violence
. So to say you cannot use extracts from the Quran to justify these actions is not correct. As for Islam it's a matter of personal interpretation - the vast majority ignore these words but they are there.

So he is perfectly correct to point this out.”

I'm not so sure they do, they might do as punishments by the authorities for certain big sins in a islamic/religious law run country but not for individuals to do by themselves against people. I think one would have to read a respected/accepted translated version of the qur'an and make sure they know/understand which parts cancel what out before they could say what you did for sure.

Just because Islam does not have an ongoing figurehead on earth to clarify things does not mean its open to interpretation in the way you implied either. Its up to people to make sure they get the right interpretation and or ask and not just accept at face value things that could well be wrong/distorted or completely distorted etc. I'm not saying thats easy but no doubt that is the requirement.
Nosedive
08-08-2016
Quote:
“maajid himself says he isnt religious, doesnt pray, does not believe in parts of the quran. he says that he's a cultural muslim. what he does do though is propagate isis ideology without the necessary beliefs and understanding of ordinary muslims being stated. you can see why hes a government - neocon favourite.”

I wonder if he still eats hal-al meat.
Styker
08-08-2016
Where did this disappear to earlier. I couldn't see it displayed at all.

Anyone else had enough of Clive Bull's one man attempt to try and bring about a second EU referendum? He's flogging it over and over again on his shows and he's really irking me doing this so much! I stopped listening the other day because of it.
Charlie Drake
08-08-2016
Originally Posted by Styker:
“Where did this disappear to earlier. I couldn't see it displayed at all.

Anyone else had enough of Clive Bull's one man attempt to try and bring about a second EU referendum? He's flogging it over and over again on his shows and he's really irking me doing this so much! I stopped listening the other day because of it.”

Most, if not all, of the presenters are forever banging on about something or other.
I suppose it's what they're paid to do.
I wrote on here some time before the referendum that I didn't think it would have much effect either way it went.
I still believe that, as I reckon 'Brexit' will just get watered down until people are sick of thinking about it/hearing about it/reading about it.
I've also said that in my opinion there never should have been a referendum in the first place, let alone a second one.
We elect and pay for our representatives to make decisions on our behalf.
After all, they are privy to far more information than we are, and hopefully are able to distinguish the lies from the truth - something that was severely lacking in the build up to the ridiculous and childish 'in/out' referendum.
Certain vested interests (hedge funds spring to mind) don't want too much stability in the financial markets, especially when they're betting on failure. Instability is also good news for lawyers and for the media.
Styker
09-08-2016
Originally Posted by Charlie Drake:
“Most, if not all, of the presenters are forever banging on about something or other.
I suppose it's what they're paid to do.
I wrote on here some time before the referendum that I didn't think it would have much effect either way it went.
I still believe that, as I reckon 'Brexit' will just get watered down until people are sick of thinking about it/hearing about it/reading about it.
I've also said that in my opinion there never should have been a referendum in the first place, let alone a second one.
We elect and pay for our representatives to make decisions on our behalf.
After all, they are privy to far more information than we are, and hopefully are able to distinguish the lies from the truth - something that was severely lacking in the build up to the ridiculous and childish 'in/out' referendum.
Certain vested interests (hedge funds spring to mind) don't want too much stability in the financial markets, especially when they're betting on failure. Instability is also good news for lawyers and for the media.”

The anti EU brigade really started kicking off in the early 1990's and it grew and grew and the pro EU lot only started to speak up on the whole once the 4 month referendum campaign started in february.

I don't think they (the anti EU brigade) will take it lying down or shut up so easily if Brexit is rowed back on or watered down.
snowy ghost
21-08-2016
Irritating Momentum chap on Andrew Castle at the moment
snowy ghost
21-08-2016
Even more irritating Lisa from Cricklewood on now
snowy ghost
21-08-2016
Oh Lord
Katy H on about JC now
Lone Drinker
11-09-2016
Worth bringing this thread up from the depths to watch Lady Nugee display stunning ignorance on her political brief. Unable to answer the question, she resorts to bleating about sexism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neR_VHbxyLQ
Mou Mou Land
11-09-2016
Originally Posted by Lone Drinker:
“Worth bringing this thread up from the depths to watch Lady Nugee display stunning ignorance on her political brief. Unable to answer the question, she resorts to bleating about sexism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neR_VHbxyLQ”

I used to think she was rather a polished performer, but she screwed up big time there. Apparently is it sexism to question a woman about her job now.
Virgin Queen
19-10-2016
Originally Posted by Lone Drinker:
“Worth bringing this thread up from the depths to watch Lady Nugee display stunning ignorance on her political brief. Unable to answer the question, she resorts to bleating about sexism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neR_VHbxyLQ”

Emily Thornberry fools nobody. Unfortunately, she is not the only person of her ilk in Parliament. It is WHO you know, not WHAT you know which qualifies you for a seat at Westminster. And they wonder why so many people don't bother to vote!
Lone Drinker
19-10-2016
Jeremy Corbyn, John Mcdonnell, Diane Abbott and Lady Nugee now occupy the 4 top positions on the Labour front bench.
Virgin Queen
19-10-2016
Originally Posted by Lone Drinker:
“Jeremy Corbyn, John Mcdonnell, Diane Abbott and Lady Nugee now occupy the 4 top positions on the Labour front bench.”

We are doomed, DOOMED!
gurney-slade
19-10-2016
Thornberry would be hilarious if she didn't occupy what could be regarded as a position of power. She certainly makes the increasingly dull PMQs worth watching. She sits beside Corbyn, nodding, pointing and mouthing God knows what at the PM like a life-sized automaton.
chinchin
10-11-2016
Originally Posted by Virgin Queen:
“We are doomed, DOOMED!”

No VQ. NOW we are doomed, DOOMED!
chinchin
10-11-2016
Can anyone name an LBC presenter that is genuinely left of centre?
radiodad
10-11-2016
Originally Posted by chinchin:
“Can anyone name an LBC presenter that is genuinely left of centre?”

James O'Brien (Yes, i think he is), Clive Bull (Ok maybe Centre left but he's certainly left leaning), Nick Abbot (Known Lib Dem Supporter), Shelagh Fogarty, Darren Adam.
Nosedive
10-11-2016
Originally Posted by chinchin:
“Can anyone name an LBC presenter that is genuinely left of centre?”

Matt Frei.
chinchin
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by Nosedive:
“Matt Frei.”

So none of the major ones then?
MartinRosen
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by chinchin:
“So none of the major ones then? ”

According to a listener this morning, NF is left wing
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