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Nessun Dorma
10-02-2014
Originally Posted by Talma:
“They have said the major terminals would be exceptions.”

No they haven't.
Nessun Dorma
10-02-2014
Originally Posted by Lone Drinker:
“The technology exists for driverless trains and they have been in operation for a decade in Paris without a serious incident. Getting rid of the overpaid drivers would save a fortune and not allow a few union bully boys the power to paralyse the transport system of one of the world's major cities.”

No it doesn't, not for the current stock.. It would cost a very large fortune to replace the current rolling stock with driverless trains.
Talma
10-02-2014
Originally Posted by Nessun Dorma:
“No they haven't.”

I heard one of them say it on LBC last week when someone asked about the higher demand for tickets at stations like King's Cross.
Nessun Dorma
10-02-2014
Originally Posted by Talma:
“I heard one of them say it on LBC last week when someone asked about the higher demand for tickets at stations like King's Cross.”

Who?
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Talma
10-02-2014
Originally Posted by Nessun Dorma:
“Who?
.”

One of the top TFL people LBC had on constantly during last week's strike.
Nessun Dorma
11-02-2014
Originally Posted by Talma:
“One of the top TFL people LBC had on constantly during last week's strike.”

Well.....according the RMT, there has been no such offer put on the table. The chap who spoke to Ian dale last night confirmed that.
Talma
11-02-2014
Originally Posted by Nessun Dorma:
“Well.....according the RMT, there has been no such offer put on the table. The chap who spoke to Ian dale last night confirmed that.”

Okay, you believe what the RMT says if you want to. I thought we said neither side is 100% truthful? Or more likely, unwilling to admit there may be more to the other's POV as neither want to be seen to blink first. The difference is the RMT can bring London to a halt and make life difficult for millions of people at the drop of a hat so know they can more or less do what they like.

And with so many rail lines struggling with the weather it's vindictive of them not to call it off. After all it's only people trying to get to work ( not to mention hospital appointments etc) who suffer most from a tube strike, but they don't matter to Crow, do they?
chinchin
11-02-2014
I see LBC has changed its tagline to Leading Britain's Conservatism

Shame LBC isn't neutral as it used to be.
Nessun Dorma
11-02-2014
Originally Posted by Talma:
“Okay, you believe what the RMT says if you want to. I thought we said neither side is 100% truthful? Or more likely, unwilling to admit there may be more to the other's POV as neither want to be seen to blink first.”

I never said that at all.

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“The difference is the RMT can bring London to a halt and make life difficult for millions of people at the drop of a hat so know they can more or less do what they like.”

Johnson is the one who is bringing London to a halt. He has been given several opportunities to compromise with the unions, without making any commitments, but he has rejected those options. He has point blank refused to meet with the unions, a measure that could call of the strikes, but he seems determined to cause as much disruption to Londoners as he can. The people of London want him to engage with the unions, but doesn't give a hoot about them, the people who he represents. What is he afraid of?

The TfL management won't even sit in the same room as the union negotiators at ACAS. ACAS negotiators have to keep shuttling from one room to another, because of some macho power playing by Johnson's minions.
Lone Drinker
11-02-2014
You can't negotiate with a bully and you only need to glance back over 15 years to see who the real guilty party is here. 69 strike ballots by the RMT and 42 strikes in the 13 years to December 2008, nearly all of which were before Johnson came to power. Bullies need to be faced down. More fool those who fall for the latest contrived excuse for a strike ballot.
Richard1960
11-02-2014
Originally Posted by Lone Drinker:
“You can't negotiate with a bully and you only need to glance back over 15 years to see who the real guilty party is here. 69 strike ballots by the RMT and 42 strikes in the 13 years to December 2008, nearly all of which were before Johnson came to power. Bullies need to be faced down. More fool those who fall for the latest contrived excuse for a strike ballot.”



People need to look at some of our political masters contrived ballots IE police commissioners elected on a 13% turnout before criticising the RMT or indeed the TSSSA

From what i heard of Boris and Peter Hendy on LBC last week they hardly sounded like paragons of virtue when it comes to bullying.
Ray_Smith
11-02-2014
Blimey - another LBC thread. That's three! Are you sure Digital Spy doesn't have shares in LBC?
Richard1960
11-02-2014
Originally Posted by Ray_Smith:
“Blimey - another LBC thread. That's three! Are you sure Digital Spy doesn't have shares in LBC? ”

Possibly there will be more now LBC has gone national.
Ray_Smith
11-02-2014
I bet LBC's national audience will drop like a stone when Duncan Barkes is on tonight! His voice is too dreary for Great Britain!!!!
makeba72
11-02-2014
What do we make of the 'smoking in the car with kids' issue, much discussed on LBC?
MartinRosen
11-02-2014
Originally Posted by makeba72:
“What do we make of the 'smoking in the car with kids' issue, much discussed on LBC?”

Are the police really going to stop a driver "excuse me sir, is that a cigarette you are smoking with a child in the car?" "No officer, it is marijuana". "Oh, that's okay sir"!!

Seriously, a couple smoke continuously at home in front of their kids, but get in the car and they stop?!
Talma
11-02-2014
Originally Posted by makeba72:
“What do we make of the 'smoking in the car with kids' issue, much discussed on LBC?”

Well meaning in principle but probably Impossible to enforce.
chinchin
11-02-2014
Wow a Labour guest Harriet Harman on Iain Dale's programme! Maybe Global read our comments after all!
chinchin
11-02-2014
Originally Posted by makeba72:
“What do we make of the 'smoking in the car with kids' issue, much discussed on LBC?”

I think it's a good idea along with stopping people talking on their mobile phones whilst driving.
MartinRosen
11-02-2014
Originally Posted by chinchin:
“Wow a Labour guest Harriet Harman on Iain Dale's programme! Maybe Global read our comments after all!”

He has had Harriet Har-person on before. Hasn't he had Jacqui Smith on as well, (didn't he do a book (?) tour with her?). I knew he has had Ed Balls on.
Lateralthinking
11-02-2014
Originally Posted by MartinRosen:
“He has had Harriet Har-person on before. Hasn't he had Jacqui Smith on as well, (didn't he do a book (?) tour with her?). I knew he has had Ed Balls on.”

I predict Dennis CrookShane inside two weeks.
Nosedive
11-02-2014
Originally Posted by Talma:
“Well meaning in principle but probably Impossible to enforce.”

You say that but as a similar example look how careful we have to be about using something like the 'n' word these days. You mention that now and someone'll have you banged up pretty quickly. I don't even think the word itself is illegal.

It's a mindset/social conditioning thing.
makeba72
11-02-2014
Originally Posted by Nosedive:
“It's a mindset/social conditioning thing.”

It worked with seat-belts and drink-driving (although I think that's back on the rise), but I don't think it's worked with mobile phones. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

There do seem to be too many people who simply don't care, though, and how do you legislate for that?
MartinRosen
11-02-2014
Originally Posted by makeba72:
“It worked with seat-belts and drink-driving (although I think that's back on the rise), but I don't think it's worked with mobile phones. I guess we'll have to wait and see.”

Seat-belts and Drink-driving are something that is particular to vehicles, whereas mobile phones, the 'n' word, cigarette smoking can all be done within the privacy of your home without recrimination.
makeba72
11-02-2014
Originally Posted by MartinRosen:
“Seat-belts and Drink-driving are something that is particular to vehicles, whereas mobile phones, the 'n' word, cigarette smoking can all be done within the privacy of your home without recrimination.”

You drive around your living room while on a mobile phone, Martin?
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