Originally Posted by Dave-H:
“Here you go.
Not from the same species of tree, letalone the same tree!
”
“Here you go.
Not from the same species of tree, letalone the same tree!
”
That is really very funny lol
Its a different leaf....
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Originally Posted by Dave-H:
“Here you go.
Not from the same species of tree, letalone the same tree!
”
“Here you go.
Not from the same species of tree, letalone the same tree!
”
Well.. They all 3 look different. The 2nd and 3rd looking closer alike but the one she had in her hand is HUGE
It's only on here people are claiming it's the same leaf. The most important leaf that saved the day was the leaf that got the parents together. Last weeks leaf was a leaf from Clara's Mum's home planet. That's why it tasted funny.
Originally Posted by The Gatherer:
“Yes, but I'm still waiting for an explanation of why the man with the dog in The Eleventh Hour was clean shaven one moment and then had heavy stubble the next.”
“Yes, but I'm still waiting for an explanation of why the man with the dog in The Eleventh Hour was clean shaven one moment and then had heavy stubble the next.”
Maybe because he was lying down in the hospital bed and couldn't shave.
I don't know if anyone else does think this, but I thought the man with the dog looked like an older Phil Daniels, in about 20 years from now. The actor who's appeared in EastEnders, Quadrophenia, Blur's Parklife video, Rock and Chips as a younger Granddad and so on.
Prisoner Zero - http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Pg_fAj3kl2...march29-11.jpg
Phil Daniels - http://www.emptagehallett.co.uk/phildaniels1108.jpg
Originally Posted by FATCHOPS:
“It's only on here people are claiming it's the same leaf. The most important leaf that saved the day was the leaf that got the parents together. Last weeks leaf was a leaf from Clara's Mum's home planet. That's why it tasted funny.”
“It's only on here people are claiming it's the same leaf. The most important leaf that saved the day was the leaf that got the parents together. Last weeks leaf was a leaf from Clara's Mum's home planet. That's why it tasted funny.”
Both leaves came from the book, we are lead to believe that. And it says her moms home planet?
Well, when Clara gets dropped off at the end she says her house seems different. The leaf was different too, maybe it was intentional. Clara's lived in three different centuries, what's three different leaves?
Originally Posted by Laura_Amanda:
“Both leaves came from the book, we are lead to believe that. And it says her moms home planet?”
“Both leaves came from the book, we are lead to believe that. And it says her moms home planet?”
Yes I agree, but I don't think they are supposed to be the same leaf.
If one was to apply Occam's Razor (The simplest solution is usually the most likely) which would win?
The leaves are meant to be different and they form part of the plot?
The leaves are meant to be the same but the mistake was missed, over and over again, by the entire cast and crew?
The leaves are meant to be different and they form part of the plot?
The leaves are meant to be the same but the mistake was missed, over and over again, by the entire cast and crew?
Alll i can think is,Poor Clara, having to spend her whole life, unable to touch another leaf, let alone pick another one up to put in her book, or perhaps create a collection from places aged been.
Get real people.
Get real people.
Originally Posted by Glyn W:
“It was a stand-in stuntleaf.
”
“It was a stand-in stuntleaf.
”
I thought it was either magic or something to do with the space time thing.
Originally Posted by Abomination:
“A major gripe with Series 5-7 is that we're expected to either be intelligent or amazed when the likes of the Doctor's jacket in Flesh and Stone proved to be a significant plot point, but then more glaringly obvious details are shown to be production errors. You can allow for so many, as they're after all human are these people behind the show... but if we're to have to focus with such scrutiny at one plot point, it's insulting to the viewers not to make that the case elsewhere (with the leaf, or Rory's badge for example).”
“A major gripe with Series 5-7 is that we're expected to either be intelligent or amazed when the likes of the Doctor's jacket in Flesh and Stone proved to be a significant plot point, but then more glaringly obvious details are shown to be production errors. You can allow for so many, as they're after all human are these people behind the show... but if we're to have to focus with such scrutiny at one plot point, it's insulting to the viewers not to make that the case elsewhere (with the leaf, or Rory's badge for example).”
You're not required to notice it. If you do, that's a bonus, but as long as you recognise the scene, or the background character, or the prop, when they revisit it, you can still be struck with the relevance of it. It's perfectly fine, and expected, to not notice the Doctor's re-appearing jacket, or Rory's badge (which was blink-and-you'll-miss-it-anyway). Speculation is fine, as long as you know that it might be nothing, and you accept that production errors occur and not everything is significant.
Just a thought but - what if there's something that is the exact opposite of a "fixed point"? Not something that MAY be changed without causing major ripples but something that MUST be changed constantly and repeatedly otherwise there'll be dire consequences?
Originally Posted by Abomination:
“A major gripe with Series 5-7 is that we're expected to either be intelligent or amazed when the likes of the Doctor's jacket in Flesh and Stone proved to be a significant plot point, but then more glaringly obvious details are shown to be production errors. You can allow for so many, as they're after all human are these people behind the show... but if we're to have to focus with such scrutiny at one plot point, it's insulting to the viewers not to make that the case elsewhere (with the leaf, or Rory's badge for example).”
“A major gripe with Series 5-7 is that we're expected to either be intelligent or amazed when the likes of the Doctor's jacket in Flesh and Stone proved to be a significant plot point, but then more glaringly obvious details are shown to be production errors. You can allow for so many, as they're after all human are these people behind the show... but if we're to have to focus with such scrutiny at one plot point, it's insulting to the viewers not to make that the case elsewhere (with the leaf, or Rory's badge for example).”
There's a difference between plot points sorted out over months and are the crux of some stories and with getting props and things together on a tighter time schedule in different places with possibly different people.
Continuity errors happen all the time...live with it.
Originally Posted by MinkytheDog:
“Just a thought but - what if there's something that is the exact opposite of a "fixed point"? Not something that MAY be changed without causing major ripples but something that MUST be changed constantly and repeatedly otherwise there'll be dire consequences?”
“Just a thought but - what if there's something that is the exact opposite of a "fixed point"? Not something that MAY be changed without causing major ripples but something that MUST be changed constantly and repeatedly otherwise there'll be dire consequences?”
Most of the Eastenders cast?
Originally Posted by MinkytheDog:
“Just a thought but - what if there's something that is the exact opposite of a "fixed point"? Not something that MAY be changed without causing major ripples but something that MUST be changed constantly and repeatedly otherwise there'll be dire consequences?”
“Just a thought but - what if there's something that is the exact opposite of a "fixed point"? Not something that MAY be changed without causing major ripples but something that MUST be changed constantly and repeatedly otherwise there'll be dire consequences?”
Isn't that what the Doctor does on a daily basis? After all, most of the time it appears that if he wasn't there at that specific point, there wouldn't be a future.
I absolutely have the desire for it to be a plot point and the leaf morphed into a giant leaf from exposure to some extra terrestrial element. Or it's revealed some other way, I'll accept any answer but I'll be disappointed if it's just a continuity error.
Originally Posted by Glyn W:
“It was a stand-in stuntleaf.”
“It was a stand-in stuntleaf.
”
So the original leaf can appear in the season finale? 'Cos it's The Rani all along
Originally Posted by MidnightFalcon:
“Do Gallifreyan leaves regenerate?”
“Do Gallifreyan leaves regenerate?”
The Doctor did make a big thing about leaves on Gallifrey, didn't he? Although the only ones he's told us about are silver.
Or are you hinting that Clara's parents assertions about blind chance are wrong, and that the Doctor threw the leaf in her Dad's face?
Originally Posted by johnnysaucepn:
“The Doctor did make a big thing about leaves on Gallifrey, didn't he? Although the only ones he's told us about are silver.
Or are you hinting that Clara's parents assertions about blind chance are wrong, and that the Doctor threw the leaf in her Dad's face?”
“The Doctor did make a big thing about leaves on Gallifrey, didn't he? Although the only ones he's told us about are silver.
Or are you hinting that Clara's parents assertions about blind chance are wrong, and that the Doctor threw the leaf in her Dad's face?”
No, At least I don't think I was.
Originally Posted by johnnysaucepn:
“The Doctor did make a big thing about leaves on Gallifrey, didn't he? Although the only ones he's told us about are silver.
Or are you hinting that Clara's parents assertions about blind chance are wrong, and that the Doctor threw the leaf in her Dad's face?”
“The Doctor did make a big thing about leaves on Gallifrey, didn't he? Although the only ones he's told us about are silver.
Or are you hinting that Clara's parents assertions about blind chance are wrong, and that the Doctor threw the leaf in her Dad's face?”
Ah but what if The Doctor didn't do that but the TARDIS landing is what loosened the leaf enough for it to fall from the tree
Originally Posted by nanscombe:
“It doesn't mean to say it was the same leaf that the Doctor looked at last time.
The Maple leaf may simply have been the first one that Clara kept for herself.”
“It doesn't mean to say it was the same leaf that the Doctor looked at last time.
The Maple leaf may simply have been the first one that Clara kept for herself.”
After her mum died she decided to turn over a new ...
No, I just can't.
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